Topic: No petrol/diesel car sales by 2035/ Reality or dream? - page 14. (Read 3572 times)

We do not have strict regulation like “bury your car with an internal combustion engine and take out a loan to buy an electric car.” The population makes its own choice! There is simple economic feasibility here - many times lower operating costs, greater comfort and convenience. Even despite the fact that my country is currently undergoing a terrorist attack from a neighboring state, a network of electric charging stations is being actively developed in Ukraine, and the share of purchased electric vehicles is constantly growing. As I wrote, I now have a hybrid, but its presence is explained by the situation in the country. The plans include purchasing a full-fledged electric car, because... my regular costs for its operation will be several times lower, even for a hybrid.

You see electric cars mostly in the cities, but if you travel, you will barely notice an electric car outside the city. It will be kind of exception, when a person has bought a new electric car and for the first time is travelling with it (and probably the last time), or he is just travelling to a nearest town. Until electric cars can not do more than 500km on a single charge, it will be a nervous and well planned journey. And it is highly difficult to make a random ride with it. With an average diesel or petrol car, you can ride for 1/4 of Europe during 1 8h working day. With electric car, you will do 2-3 charges and spend almost a day.

There's immensely much to be done to achieve this feat globally because from the whole debate the scope is  Europe and some other Western countries but achieving the complete elimination of combustion engine vehicles by 2035 in this places is something that will take more than a decade. The 2035 time frame that's put in focus could be viewed as an experimental phase.

When we take a look at the pros of using EV cars we should likewise consider that it will be weighing on the economies of those countries that heavily depends on petrol and diesel for their sustainability as a source of national income and in countries like that I doubt if they will encourage the complete elimination of combustion engine cars.  And that's why I started by saying that there's immensely much to be done.

New Jersey does it. I have had to have many cars inspected. A few years back they change to law for new cars. No inspection for the first 5 years you own it.  If if you trade in your new car every 4 years  for a new car or so you Never have to inspect it .

Yes they do this in the US in Colorado I know for sure and a bunch of other states in the US have to go in and get their car approved in emmissons testing.

There are pros and cons to using electric vehicles. We can not justify them only by seeing the cons. The whole world is facing problems because of carbon emission. It is time to rethink the use of fossil fuels and shift to an alternative source like renewable energy. So this can be the foothold for it and if the adoption increases on a global scale then those cons will be resolved easily.

In my country, our government is encouraging citizens to switch to electric vehicles, but what I'm surprised about is that the infrastructure is still inadequate, so the drive to use electric vehicles is stagnating.
Just imagine, to charge the car battery you have to wait several hours, what if you are in rush hour, regarding whether in 2035 oil vehicles will no longer be available, I am also not so sure, as long as the infrastructure is not adequate then it will be impossible for electric vehicles to succeed in displacing oil vehicles (in terms of sales and also citizen interest) in 2035.

Totally inevitable, Right?

Even if they would be saying or talking about saving up the environment or would really be talking about green or clean world but still we cant really be that able to avoid on making use of diesel/gas on which it
is really that something that relevant when it comes to usage. There's no way that it could really be that eradicated so easily just because of having that intent of zero carbon emission?
There's no way that ICE vehicles would really be cease to exist just because it would really be replaced by full EV? I dont think so.

They would really be just still remaining and both would really co-exist and its up to people whether they would really be switching from ICE to EV. If ever that car
manufacturers would really be going to full EV sales then there would really be those companies who would really be considering on still offering those
internal combustion engine vehicles yet when it comes to performance and in overall i do still prefer this one.

the only obstacle currently is the high price of electric vehicles when compared to fossil fuel vehicles. Even though electric cars are much more efficient in terms of energy usage, if the cost of buying a vehicle is still many times higher than a regular fuel car then of course people will still choose to buy a regular fuel car.

Citizens' enthusiasm for electric cars is actually quite good. It's just that high prices and public facilities for charging the vehicle's electric energy are still inadequate and don't exist in all areas which is an obstacle. When facilities are evenly distributed and available everywhere, the transition can occur more quickly.

Can it be more funnier? Diesel aggregate for recharging electric cars...

This is where the hypocrisy of the West is reflected, they think if they drive electric cars that makes this world cleaner, but how are these cars made, where are the lithium mines?

In my country there are too many petrol/diesel cars/trucks... people depend on it, their business depends on it. I doubt that anyone can stop the sales and usage of diesel and petrol vehicles... not now, not even in 10 years.

Electric vehicles are becoming cheaper with every passing year. But even now, they are on average 2x or more costlier when compared to the gasoline equivalent. The cost of EV battery is still prohibitive and it needs to come down to make such vehicles more affordable for the general population. But then, no new innovation has happened with the battery technology for the last 2 decades or so.

Could be then possibility. Electric cars are becoming more and more accepted into the roads and parkings now  than ever before making it look like the car industry is already at a massive paradigm shift. There’s equal chances and reasons for the electric car world to both fail or flourish. It all bouls down to the fact that all it really takes is a single push at an oppprtune moment during this altercation, and we might see better days in the energy and fuel sector.

  We can discuss it to our heart’s content, EV will compose 90% of the world’s vehicle fleet by 2040. Because EV’s are cheaper to operate, charging a battery pack is cheaper than buying fuel. Maintaining an electric motor and battery pack is cheaper than maintaining an internal combustion engine. The adoption curve has started for EV’s. Up until now, batteries cost too much and took too long to charge but not any more. One misconception is that because electric cars are relatively new to the market, they are far expensive and become unaffordable for the average person. This claim again is unfounded. The Nissan Leaf is one of the cost effective electric car in the U.S that you can currently buy and it currently stands at $28,140. The average person, will spend well in excess of $1,250 per year on petrol compared to around $125 per year for an electric car, subject to your tariff.
  Furthermore, you will be entitled to benefit in kind tax for electric cars. In the U.S, monetary incentives for electric vehicles come in both federal and state issued form, in addition drivers are entitled to better electricity rates and insurance discounts. The automotive industry has been the very example of human advances in technology. And this is an innovation that will have good benefits in the climate change.

Yes this seems achievable and I think we are on a good track to surpass that goal. Many car companies are positioning themselves to achieve that goal and already want to stop selling traditional cars by 2030. All around the world there are new EV factories being build, even Saudia Arabia a major oil exporter wants to build a manufacturing hub for electrical vehicles. Same goes for China, they want to dominate the global EV market. There are big differences between internal combustion vehicles and EVs. The companies can't just switch their production facilities, it takes different materials and knowhow. All these investment need to be planned by the car companies, there is no sudden switching back to producing old cars. Still, it's not yet the end of the combustion engine cars, they are still going to run for many years and people will be able to keep repairing them and sell their used cars. It's going to take much longer for all petrol and diesel cars to disappear from the earth.

When people mention environmentally friendly cars, I always remember about so called Euro standards. If it is planned to stop petrol or diesel car production in 2035, why manufacturers still develop and improve standards all the time?  For example in 2025 there probably would be Euro 7 already. I dont know if you have this in US or lets say outside Europe, but we have CO checks every time we pass annual technical inspections. We spend tons of money on catalyst or addons to fuel to reduce emission.

The exact event is for 2035, yes, to be exact, in the next 12 years, it is not certain whether it will be successful or not, because if we look at the need for propulsion fuel, be it petrol, diesel or others for diesel and petrol cars, it is decreasing day by day and could run out. The future total is apart from the issue of reducing CO2 emissions by up to 100 percent for car manufacturers. Now, as for the percentage of success, economical or economical, expensive or not expensive, it all depends on taste and future use.

The gas/diesel car market is crazy right now and honestly that alone could also cause buyers to move towards electric. Not gonna lie Teslas are awesome, I haven't tried a Lucid out yet but man I want to. Eventually every car maker will probably shift and adjust with the markets as governments create "environmentally friendly"laws propping up EV that moves forward with their Commie agendas. When the oil is not found in the USA and gasoline engines and gas stations are out of the picture and all you have are these oversized parking lots for charging your cars we will surely miss having the gasoline because time is money. Pay the 60 dollars for a full tank of gass or wait 45 minutes or longer so you can drive the same distance and lose 1 hour of your precious time as a result? So freedom is also gone too in case the government ever wanted to shut down your vehicle, ummm so much stuff I can think of here, Electric vehicles shutting down from overheating, or being too cold? that doses't really happen with gasoline vehicles and you hear or some wild crazy stories of electric vehicles not working in those types of conditions and who even knows what sort of situation that could put you in. I could go on. But you can easily see that I don't exactly like this trending towards all electic and no gas future.

Eventually, it will grow fast enough in developed countries, because it is an objective which is government sponsored, in the case of those who cared for the future of the planet and the endangered species.

In the case of the USA, it will mostly depend on whether the Republican party will embrace those ideas in the future or will continue to deny there is an impact (a negative one) being done to this planet. In Europe the impact is not a topic of discussion, but already taken as a fact...

such problem already solved in many countries its just the rural village where you won't be encountering any rapid chargers, but I guess in some countries with relatively late technology development are still struggling with such problem, the only concern of mine is whether the electricity generated for the electric cars coming from coal or are there sufficient renewable energy in which gonna keeps the environment healthy because if its coming from coal than its just the same thing.
i think government should be concerned about getting renewable energy more and more.

Currently, I personally see more and more people using electric vehicles in my country. Although maybe only a few percent. But I think in the next few years electric vehicles will really become more accepted in society. Currently, electric car users may only be in big cities. Because vehicle electric recharging facilities are currently only available in big cities. But maybe in a few years electric vehicle charging facilities will be evenly distributed throughout the country. I am proud of my country for moving quickly on this.