2035 does not seem feasible and realistic in my opinion because It'll take a lot of work to build more robust grid infrastructures or much better battery technology for that goal to be achieved.. additionally, there's still no solution for people who live in places where chargers can’t be installed other than extortionate rapid chargers..lastly charger network is not growing quickly enough.
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In my opinion, regarding vehicles and the biggest contributor to air pollution are cargo cars compared to private cars. And I also think that the presence of electric cars cannot fully reduce the air pollution that occurs, because basically the presence of electric cars can only replace certain types of cars such as private cars. Meanwhile, cargo type cars, especially those that move in rural areas, will never be replaced by electric cars.
And one more thing, in my opinion, is that society can switch to electric cars, and if the target is 2035, this is impossible, because that time is considered very fast. Meanwhile, the community's economy has not yet been completely stable until now.
And one more thing, in my opinion, is that society can switch to electric cars, and if the target is 2035, this is impossible, because that time is considered very fast. Meanwhile, the community's economy has not yet been completely stable until now.
Being a reality will bring joy to the world as we move away from carbon emissions to save our planet from the light rays that are penetrating due to ozone layer damage caused by caron emissions. As they have projected, it may likely become a reality as they themselves will intensify effort to make it a reality.
I will love to translate this very post in my local board, it concerns us as a country whose economy soley relies on crude oil. What will be fate of such country when electric cars takes over?.
I will love to translate this very post in my local board, it concerns us as a country whose economy soley relies on crude oil. What will be fate of such country when electric cars takes over?.
If the government continues to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, then buyers will be more inclined to buy Elon Musk Tesla company cars. Because the cars of Elon Musk Tesla company have received a huge response. Electric cars will be more affordable than diesel and petrol, the country is now moving towards electric cars so most people really want electric cars.At present we have noticed that electric vehicles are slowly becoming a reality in the country. 2035 is still very late,hopefully technology will be more advanced.
The people have voted on this with their money and the result is that we don't want to buy electric cars because of their price.
There are two markets, the new car market and the used car market. Electric vehicles barely exist on the used market, so most of it consists of traditional combustion engine cars.
The governments want to destroy the used car market by enforcing emission limits. There are also engine size limits. For example you pay a lot more tax in the EU when you import a car with an engine exceeding 2 L. It's all being done to discourage you from using normal cars and boost electric car sales.
Repairs for electric cars are easier. Much less moving parts.
Sure, because electric car manufacturers focus on replacing parts, not repairing them. They don't fix batteries, they replace them and charge you 25% of what a new car costs for that.
Also, this depends on what you're trying to fix since with electric cars if something doesn't work with the engine it's usually a big issue, not something they can repair in an hour.
Gasoline cars can face a lot of small issues, like spark plugs, battery replacement, worn out belts, that can be easily fixed.
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The issues of bad are long time to fuel them up. A Tesla and a supercharger is over 20 minutes.
Even if you had a Tesla, how many superchargers are there in your area?
I have one, 10km from my house and google says it's going to take 15 min to get there. Nobody is going to drive 15 min to charge a car faster
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I still see a fast fill up smaller pack that swaps in and out of cars as the best answer to speed up fill up time.
Other issues are flooding. If you car is on the street and floods the lithium battery could be damaged and explode. No fix in set for this as of now.
Other issues are flooding. If you car is on the street and floods the lithium battery could be damaged and explode. No fix in set for this as of now.
There are other annoying issues like the battery not holding charge in low temperatures.
Repairs for electric cars are easier. Much less moving parts. The issues of bad are long time to fuel them up. A Tesla and a supercharger is over 20 minutes. I still see a fast fill up smaller pack that swaps in and out of cars as the best answer to speed up fill up time.
Other issues are flooding. If you car is on the street and floods the lithium battery could be damaged and explode. No fix in set for this as of now.
Other issues are flooding. If you car is on the street and floods the lithium battery could be damaged and explode. No fix in set for this as of now.
If the government continues to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, then buyers will be more inclined to buy Elon Musk Tesla company cars. Because the cars of Elon Musk Tesla company have received a huge response. Electric cars will be more affordable than diesel and petrol, the country is now moving towards electric cars so most people really want electric cars.At present we have noticed that electric vehicles are slowly becoming a reality in the country. 2035 is still very late,hopefully technology will be more advanced.
Technology will indeed become more advanced over time because in this world there are still many developers in terms of technology, but smart people will also consider this in as much detail as possible when they start or want to change petrol vehicles to electric vehicles someday. Because if there are still very few electric vehicle repair workshops, of course there won't be many people who want to own an electric vehicle because they might think that once it breaks they have to throw it away without any repairs.
Meanwhile, there are still a lot of petrol vehicle repair shops at the moment so they can still be considered for use by many people even though the price may be a little more expensive than electric vehicles. So the government and top officials of any country must also look at this when they want to convert all vehicles to electric, because if they are only for one-time use without being able to be repaired I think it will be very useless because when it breaks down everyone will have to spend more money to buy a new vehicle.
If the government continues to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, then buyers will be more inclined to buy Elon Musk Tesla company cars. Because the cars of Elon Musk Tesla company have received a huge response. Electric cars will be more affordable than diesel and petrol, the country is now moving towards electric cars so most people really want electric cars.At present we have noticed that electric vehicles are slowly becoming a reality in the country. 2035 is still very late,hopefully technology will be more advanced.
Most of the countries in the World are looking to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to play their role in climate protection initiatives. The UK is looking to ban petrol and diesel cars by 2030. Other European countries are also following suit. America also set the goal to reduce the sales of petrol and diesel cars by 2035.
It is clear that shifting to electric vehicles is becoming a reality, and by 2035, it will be implemented in most of the countries.
It is clear that shifting to electric vehicles is becoming a reality, and by 2035, it will be implemented in most of the countries.
Even if they fix battery problem I don't think it's possible to switch to electric cars by 2035, that's too early. I believe it takes at least 50 years to make that change. EU may push for closer timeframe but for other parts of the world petrol will still dominate. The production and development of electric vehicles is still progressing very slowly. When you calculate the world population and the need for cars, it becomes clear that this isn't possible in the near future.
You know they could do a mix of ev's and hybrids really fast.
I don't understand why they don't push in that method first.
I like the telsa my partner owns one, but they could have a built in gas based generator which would
make the car be able to get to a super charger.
Even if they fix battery problem I don't think it's possible to switch to electric cars by 2035, that's too early. I believe it takes at least 50 years to make that change. EU may push for closer timeframe but for other parts of the world petrol will still dominate. The production and development of electric vehicles is still progressing very slowly. When you calculate the world population and the need for cars, it becomes clear that this isn't possible in the near future.
All the hydrocarbon run vehicles can't be replaced with electric vehicles. I don't think that it is possible to manufacture enough EV batteries for that purpose. In the earth's crust, we have a limited amount of lithium, cobalt and nickel available and this amount is not enough to manufacture huge number of batteries. So unless someone comes up with some new battery technology, this is never going to happen.
Good point if correct.
here is a nickel estimate.
https://nickelinstitute.org/blog/2020/january/reserves-resources-and-recycling-is-there-enough-nickel/
so 89 million left for sure and 300 million for maybe
we mine 2 million yearly. If all numbers are true the question is how much of the 2 million mined goes to batteries right now.
I get this number from a google search
Will Adams, Head of Base Metals and Battery Research at Fastmarkets, calculates roughly 45kg of nickel per vehicle, which meant 70,000 tonnes in 2018 growing to perhaps 600,000 tonnes by 2025.
45kg a car
google search says 85 million cars a year.
so 85million x 45 = 3825 million kgs of nickel needed or around 3.825million tons a year
So we go to 5 million tons a year vs 2 million . we have 89+300= 389
plus we can recycle . So for nickel it could work.
Not sure about lithium or cobalt
recently sold my favorite Toyota Prado 
For some time I was looking for a car for myself. I will say this - the next one will most likely be a fully electric car. Now I have also taken a Toyota hybrid Rav4. Beautiful car, comfortable, economical, but with internal combustion engine. Why? If I lived in a country where the situation was peaceful and everything was predictable, I would take an electric car. But... my country is under terrorist attack, and we expect new massive shelling of peaceful cities and infrastructure. So an electric car in my situation is a somewhat risky option. If I can always buy gasoline, I will not be able to charge an electric car, with a certain probability, either it will be very difficult or it will be partially charged. But ... believe in our victory, peaceful life and ... electric car
Is it possible for our country to use electric cars, and what about cars that still use petrol, do they have to sell them? or should I throw it away? This will definitely be the same question from everyone. Unfortunately, the government invites us to use electric cars or vehicles but instead petrol is still subsidized, even if the government wants to regulate the use of electric cars for its people, the payment is also subsidized, wouldn't it be nice if we had electric vehicles but the proceeds come from the government. Oh yes, what happens to the cars that people already own, can they exchange them for electric cars? Is all this just rubbish? That's why before taking steps to call for the use of electric vehicles, education must also be provided to the people so that they can save the energy they already have. For some time I was looking for a car for myself. I will say this - the next one will most likely be a fully electric car. Now I have also taken a Toyota hybrid Rav4. Beautiful car, comfortable, economical, but with internal combustion engine. Why? If I lived in a country where the situation was peaceful and everything was predictable, I would take an electric car. But... my country is under terrorist attack, and we expect new massive shelling of peaceful cities and infrastructure. So an electric car in my situation is a somewhat risky option. If I can always buy gasoline, I will not be able to charge an electric car, with a certain probability, either it will be very difficult or it will be partially charged. But ... believe in our victory, peaceful life and ... electric car
recently sold my favorite Toyota Prado For some time I was looking for a car for myself. I will say this - the next one will most likely be a fully electric car. Now I have also taken a Toyota hybrid Rav4. Beautiful car, comfortable, economical, but with internal combustion engine. Why? If I lived in a country where the situation was peaceful and everything was predictable, I would take an electric car. But... my country is under terrorist attack, and we expect new massive shelling of peaceful cities and infrastructure. So an electric car in my situation is a somewhat risky option. If I can always buy gasoline, I will not be able to charge an electric car, with a certain probability, either it will be very difficult or it will be partially charged. But ... believe in our victory, peaceful life and ... electric car
For some time I was looking for a car for myself. I will say this - the next one will most likely be a fully electric car. Now I have also taken a Toyota hybrid Rav4. Beautiful car, comfortable, economical, but with internal combustion engine. Why? If I lived in a country where the situation was peaceful and everything was predictable, I would take an electric car. But... my country is under terrorist attack, and we expect new massive shelling of peaceful cities and infrastructure. So an electric car in my situation is a somewhat risky option. If I can always buy gasoline, I will not be able to charge an electric car, with a certain probability, either it will be very difficult or it will be partially charged. But ... believe in our victory, peaceful life and ... electric car 
Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035
Source ---> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/auto/electric-cars/no-petrol/diesel-car-sales-by-2035-european-parliament-approves-ban/articleshow/97939363.cms
Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?
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The landmark law will require carmakers to cut down CO2 emissions by 100 percent.
The 100 percent cut in CO2 emissions from new cars sold would make it impossible to sell petrol or diesel-powered cars in the 27-country bloc. The law that comes into effect in phases that will require a 55 percent cut in CO2 emissions for new cars starting 2030, which is a much higher target in comparison to the current 37.5 percent.
The 100 percent cut in CO2 emissions from new cars sold would make it impossible to sell petrol or diesel-powered cars in the 27-country bloc. The law that comes into effect in phases that will require a 55 percent cut in CO2 emissions for new cars starting 2030, which is a much higher target in comparison to the current 37.5 percent.
Source ---> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/auto/electric-cars/no-petrol/diesel-car-sales-by-2035-european-parliament-approves-ban/articleshow/97939363.cms
Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?
Electric vehicles are gradually becoming a reality in our country. Because others understand that this would assist with gasoline expenses, it will also help to reduce pollution in cities. There are three-wheeled vehicles, E-bikes, and electric four wheel vehicles.
So, in the future, it may be possible to remove diesel or gasoline from automobiles. I'm not sure if they'll produce something like that doesn't require gasoline for airplanes or ships at sea. I believe it is still unclear at this time.
All the hydrocarbon run vehicles can't be replaced with electric vehicles. I don't think that it is possible to manufacture enough EV batteries for that purpose. In the earth's crust, we have a limited amount of lithium, cobalt and nickel available and this amount is not enough to manufacture huge number of batteries. So unless someone comes up with some new battery technology, this is never going to happen.
When electric cars have two battery setups. You can have a 1 minute battery swap thus giving you 100 km cruise. The pack pops out and a charged one pops in.
The main battery would be bigger and allow say 500 km on a slow full charge.
a two battery system would be decent.
The portable battery would be 100% swappable with all new electric cars.
Ev at 100 percent for all of us can’t happen unless they offer the two battery system .
Personally I would like to see it happen but I know human nature and I doubt it does.
The main battery would be bigger and allow say 500 km on a slow full charge.
a two battery system would be decent.
The portable battery would be 100% swappable with all new electric cars.
Ev at 100 percent for all of us can’t happen unless they offer the two battery system .
Personally I would like to see it happen but I know human nature and I doubt it does.
Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035
The use of petrol and diesel may not be stopped by the government yet unless we have a unified use of the alternative to them both, now we have to see the way these alternatives have to served us first, how acceptable are they going to appear to the people and also if truly their use is going to be widely available for everyone without being sentiment, so what we should focused on for now is about how we can encourage and source out for what the people will appreciate and be a long lasting solution for generations, if not, we can be using both the petrol and diesel engine on drvices till there's a success in the introduction of something new, this may be through the use of wind, solar or bio gas means of generation.
With the decision of a handful of people, gasoline and diesel fueled cars will not be in 2035, is it? I don't want to say bad things. The decision of the so called decision makers who think about our world more than themselves does not bind me. If the countries that call themselves the knight of democracy can take this decision alone, it is not possible to talk about democracy. This decision which will be very critical, should be asked to the public first.
It is completely bogus that electric cars do not harm the environment and it is a decision that will do nothing but cut down on people's transportation. Electric cars do not make long distances and hot weather is very dangerous for these cars. Stopping a system that has been going on uninterrupted for 100 years is nothing short of utter stupidity. I will defend Gasoline and Diesel forever. They are indispensable elements for the development of humanity and civilization.
Green house emission is a big challenge that need to be tackle. I can't remember where I see something similar to this but it was similar to how the world will be free of green house emissions by 2025 and I think we are just 2 years on the year before reaching that year and look at us today, we are still fighting for the green house emissions from industrial environment and from cars that use fossil fuels.
Why didn't the government also not intervene into renewable energy alternative to make life easy for all, electric car are super expensive, solar electricity is also expensive, these are among the primary thing they need to combat if they want to achieve this by 2030.
With the decision of a handful of people, gasoline and diesel fueled cars will not be in 2035, is it? I don't want to say bad things. The decision of the so called decision makers who think about our world more than themselves does not bind me. If the countries that call themselves the knight of democracy can take this decision alone, it is not possible to talk about democracy. This decision which will be very critical, should be asked to the public first.
It is completely bogus that electric cars do not harm the environment and it is a decision that will do nothing but cut down on people's transportation. Electric cars do not make long distances and hot weather is very dangerous for these cars. Stopping a system that has been going on uninterrupted for 100 years is nothing short of utter stupidity. I will defend Gasoline and Diesel forever. They are indispensable elements for the development of humanity and civilization.
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