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Topic: No petrol/diesel car sales by 2035/ Reality or dream? - page 25. (Read 3573 times)

legendary
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I also think that the big oil producers will not just accept that their black gold becomes less valuable with the potential to become completely worthless in the future.
It's never gonna happen simply because despite popular belief petroleum is not just used as fuel. Loads of different products are being derived from petroleum as products. From the makeup women use to the shaving cream men use, to plastic that is used in almost everything like your home appliance and even the "Electric Cars". It is even used in manufacturing fertilizers so the food industry is dependent on it.
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I think it's just someone's dream, especially those who all the time push some green agendas when it comes to the EU, and then suddenly open thermal power plants using coal, heating oil and similar pollutants because "green" has become unsustainable at this moment. Perhaps some countries will succeed in achieving this goal, but these will still be exceptions in a world where oil will continue to rule much longer than 2035.

I also think that the big oil producers will not just accept that their black gold becomes less valuable with the potential to become completely worthless in the future. In addition, the production of electric cars is quite expensive, and for those who do not know, the basic model of our great hero Mr. Mars costs (at least in my country) over 50 000 EUR (at least it was like that a few months ago). If you're wondering why it costs so much, it's probably because the owner has to pay all those poor people who work all day in the cobalt mines for $2 a day.
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How about those poor countries? Are they capable of having charging stations in those remote areas? I think this would be implemented in rich countries, as they are sure to be capable of it. For sure, in that year, electric cars will be more affordable compared to their price right now, as most people really want electric vehicles, but the problem is that they don't have charging stations, and the price is also very expensive. Also now for sure that it is pretty normal to see electric cars running on the road, unlike right now, it is a head-turner when you see one.

As a child, I loved to read Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. 

The hero of this novel is the legendary captain Nemo (aka the Indian prince Dakkar).  Captain Nemo built a submarine called the Nautilus.  She was completely powered by electricity!  All Captain Nemo's underwater equipment also worked exclusively on electricity - guns with electric bullets (with which he killed all the pirates), diving suits, etc. 

In the 19th century, it was self-evident that in the future electricity would be the basis of scientific and technological progress. 

Therefore, diesel-powered vehicles are now perceived as a technical regression and a dead end in technological development. 

By 2035, by far, most cars on the road will be electric cars (rather than cars using internal combustion engines). 

At the same time, poor countries will switch to electric vehicles later than rich ones (and this has its advantages, as it will allow them to install the most modern next-generation charging stations).
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How about those poor countries? Are they capable of having charging stations in those remote areas? I think this would be implemented in rich countries, as they are sure to be capable of it. For sure, in that year, electric cars will be more affordable compared to their price right now, as most people really want electric vehicles, but the problem is that they don't have charging stations, and the price is also very expensive. Also now for sure that it is pretty normal to see electric cars running on the road, unlike right now, it is a head-turner when you see one.
legendary
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Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.

For the end user, after the initial buying price? Probably.
Overall? No. The batteries are expensive and their production is harmful for the environment. I don't think that most countries will even have proper battery disposal facilities by 2035.
Even the charging of EV is a difficult problem, because it can drain the grid under safety levels. EV can have a proper future only after we (humans) invent much better ways of storing electricity for both EV, charging stations, regions (!!).

So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?

No. But it will ensure steps towards that.
Remember the original economy light bulbs? They were all neon bulbs with toxic materials in. Meanwhile we switched to LED bulbs. I think that this is the intention: a push towards evolving.
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Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
But the actual cost of making one is going to create another shortage. Its battery will be the next problem that shall be made when most cars are already EVs.

So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?
I think within a decade, we might see around 10%-30% of it in the actuality. But still, many countries won't be able to adopt that quickly based on the situation that they've got for these EVs.

IMO, hybrid would be the thing in the next decade and implementing and supplying fully EVs will really resort to another shortage and manufacturing problem.
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Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?

Obviously they will be far cheaper than the current market price. If they have planned legal action on the gas based cars then those companies will simply switch to manufacture the cars which are electric based. Thus it will flood the whole market with EV’s having good supply of them and lowering the prices eventually. There will be competition between the companies to manufacture the classic yet affordable cars which will be by far at good prices.

However, the main question is whether EU’s vision will be followed by all the planet? I highly doubt because vehicle market is one of the biggest one and the oil/gasoline market is even bigger than that.

Governments receive big load of taxations from the gasoline sell and car sells as well. Road taxes, service industry, car wash, water under control, authorities with testing labs and what not. They will get paid form every sector that concentrates on vehicle business.

With EV there are already half of the stuff that will go off the market including trillion dollar oil business.

EV will increase the demand of electricity and in turn it will increase the production by all means or increase the electricity costs everywhere.

For this reason it’s thinkable whether this Change is really possible within next decade ??
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Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035

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The landmark law will require carmakers to cut down CO2 emissions by 100 percent.
The 100 percent cut in CO2 emissions from new cars sold would make it impossible to sell petrol or diesel-powered cars in the 27-country bloc. The law that comes into effect in phases that will require a 55 percent cut in CO2 emissions for new cars starting 2030, which is a much higher target in comparison to the current 37.5 percent.

Source ---> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/auto/electric-cars/no-petrol/diesel-car-sales-by-2035-european-parliament-approves-ban/articleshow/97939363.cms

Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?
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