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Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # - page 133. (Read 458499 times)

legendary
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Confirmed:  Eligius is ASIC-ready.  Smiley

Thanks again for testing!  Grin

And, I'm probably less than an hour from having vardiff online (for high hashrate miners) if you'd like to take a stab at it when its complete. Smiley
donator
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Confirmed:  Eligius is ASIC-ready.  Smiley




W000t.... I want to buy one of these big boys and point it here... should I go for Avalon batch 2?
legendary
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Confirmed:  Eligius is ASIC-ready.  Smiley

donator
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Ok, thanks.

I thought the violent line going down meant I was losing that part if I didn't wait until it consolidated (which will happen in a minute anyway).

 Smiley
legendary
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If I go offline for some maintenance work, will this affect my earnings? (yes or no)
If you're not mining for 2 hours, you will lose 2 hours worth of earnings in the long run. Other than that, no.

Well theres that. But I thought that was obvious and didnt need mentioning. Hehe.
legendary
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If I go offline for some maintenance work, will this affect my earnings? (yes or no)
If you're not mining for 2 hours, you will lose 2 hours worth of earnings in the long run. Other than that, no.
legendary
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If I go offline for some maintenance work, will this affect my earnings? (yes or no)

Wish I had the time to study the system but I'm swamped with work.

No. No shares are lost and all shares have an equal chancr of being paid under CPPSRB, regardless of miner behavior. (Continuous, backup pool, low or high hashrate, offline for a bit, etc).

(Editted this out. Need to write a real post when I get home)

Hope this helps.

-wk
donator
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If I go offline for some maintenance work, will this affect my earnings? (yes or no)

Wish I had the time to study the system but I'm swamped with work.
legendary
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I hate it when having stability problems mean losing BTC you had already "earned".

You never lose BTC you've earned, even if you or the pool goes offline for any issue.  I don't understand your statement.
The line on the chart drops when you stop mining or sometimes when the pool goes offline.  This is because each share is worth less once difficulty is exceeded, and you aren't submitting more shares.  This makes it look like you had earned BTC and are losing them.  IMHO, the chart should behave differently, either it should have a third line for "CPPSRB BTC this round" (that doesn't include ec, which can show up after a block is found), or the line on the chart should only change when blocks are found (or orphaned) like it used to, with only the EC line moving during a round.

First, let me quickly clarify that shares are never worth less in the CPPSRB share log. They are stored with the share value for the time they were mined.

Also, if the pool is offline, *no one's* balances are changing, so, no one could possibly lose earned coins.

Next, I agree that the graph should partition out the estimated earnings from the unpaid ("locked in") earnings. This is on my TODO list for the stats.

But, understand that you never ever lose earnings. If you stop mining during an unlucky round, then sure, your shares will be pushed further into the share log (dubbed shelved shares now, for shares not in the current block's payments) and just won't be paid immediately. They're never "lost."  The pool tracks and stores every single share and its value at the time of mining, and they are only removed from the share log once the block which paid them reaches over 120 confirmations.

Hope this helps.

-wk
hero member
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I hate it when having stability problems mean losing BTC you had already "earned".

You never lose BTC you've earned, even if you or the pool goes offline for any issue.  I don't understand your statement.
The line on the chart drops when you stop mining or sometimes when the pool goes offline.  This is because each share is worth less once difficulty is exceeded, and you aren't submitting more shares.  This makes it look like you had earned BTC and are losing them.  IMHO, the chart should behave differently, either it should have a third line for "CPPSRB BTC this round" (that doesn't include ec, which can show up after a block is found), or the line on the chart should only change when blocks are found (or orphaned) like it used to, with only the EC line moving during a round.
legendary
Activity: 1223
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I hate it when having stability problems mean losing BTC you had already "earned".

You never lose BTC you've earned, even if you or the pool goes offline for any issue.  I don't understand your statement.
donator
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I hate it when having stability problems mean losing BTC you had already "earned".
hero member
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has anyone done a study on how CPPSRB compares to plain PPS, in real-world stats? I'd be interested to see this if it's been done. Say a set number of shares over a period of time, how many get paid and how much is made compared to PPS.
legendary
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Trying to track down whatever is causing apache to go insane and spawn hundreds of processes.

I'll have it back up very shortly!

-wk
donator
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Stats are down. In fact isn't the whole site down?
donator
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Poor impulse control.
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But, overall, CPPSRB works best with any consistent miner.

-wk

Are you certain about that? How are intermittent miners penalised? I'd thought CPPSRB was fine for all miners, big or small, consistent or intermittent.
There's no penalty. But a intermittent miner would throw all their shares within a certain part of the share log, so the possibility that part of the sharelog goes unpaid would mean a higher % lost than if the same shares were spread out over the sharelog more.

I see your point if you compare CPPSRB to PPS. But compared to other non-PPS methods, it's not a penalty.
legendary
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Good morning,

Just recently the server suffered from some issue likely related to our postgresql database software. We're investigating further and I will post details later today when the cause is determined.

No systems compromised and no data lost.

Thanks

Wk

Greetings,

Just an update, stats are back online.

I've traced the issue back to some type of disk i/o hang early this morning, which caused enough delay for stats update tasks to overlap.  That combined with accesses from the web server hanging and such caused enough of a resource pile up waiting on disk usage to hang the server for a bit.

I've adjusted some settings and will be putting better checks in the stats update scripts to make sure that this doesn't happen again in the event of some i/o hang.

Still investigating the initial cause of the i/o hold up, but, I doubt it is anything serious.

-wk
legendary
Activity: 1223
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Good morning,

Just recently the server suffered from some issue likely related to our postgresql database software. We're investigating further and I will post details later today when the cause is determined.

No systems compromised and no data lost.

Thanks

Wk
legendary
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But, overall, CPPSRB works best with any consistent miner.

-wk

Are you certain about that? How are intermittent miners penalised? I'd thought CPPSRB was fine for all miners, big or small, consistent or intermittent.
There's no penalty. But a intermittent miner would throw all their shares within a certain part of the share log, so the possibility that part of the sharelog goes unpaid would mean a higher % lost than if the same shares were spread out over the sharelog more.
full member
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Yes it does. Thank you.

Seems like with this schema that a smaller contributor can be left out in the cold more often and not have as regular payouts. Even if they contribute with a regular and consistent hashrate. Is this correct?

Actually, no.  The system is basically tailored to work best for miners with ANY consistent hash rate.  The variance of lucky and unlucky blocks will let any miners average around 100% PPS, with the pool never "forgetting" about any share's value, even for a 1MH/sec miner.  Granted, it will take a smaller miner much longer to reach our minimum payout (which I believe I will be calling a vote for adjustment), but, that's with any type of minimum payout at any pool.

But, overall, CPPSRB works best with any consistent miner.

-wk

When you say 'much longer'. What are the timescales? I'm mining at aprox. 800 MH/sec. Could you guess a average payout window?

Just asking because as i've experienced mining here for the past 3 days, is after 2 days I became stuck about half way under the minimum payout. Which I understand is due to a run of bad luck, and I'm not actually losing money.
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