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PH President Rodrigo Duterte has approved the recommendation of the Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG) to stop e-sabong or online cockfighting operations.

Online E-Sabong (cockfighting) is a legit and regulated gambling industry here in the Philippines. So much hype that many people got hooked on it even those who are not really into that gambling since betting here is so easy and different from the actual betting in the live arena.

The government is supporting online cockfighting here because it's a big help to support the economy during and after the peak of the pandemic. According to statistics, the government is receiving around PHP 60,000,000 (around $1,149,700 USD) per month in a form of taxation and revenue.

But since the hype of online cockfighting here, there are lots of recorded negative effects of gambling up to this date. Some people sold their houses, cars, gadgets, and even a "kid". There are also cases of missing several people on which today, there's still no good progress and that was all related to these gambling.

This was all brought up to the President and even though he was supporting the online cockfighting industry here, he ask his constituents to conduct a survey on the effect of this on all people. The result is WORST that's why ASAP, the President ban right away the online cockfighting and disregard the revenue the government is getting.

Let's discuss: (applies to all gambling-type)

- Do you think that your respective government will do the same even though that gambling is a big contributor to the government's revenue? It's a big sacrifice but no choice since lots of people got wrecked here and there are still unsolved cases of missing people.

- Is it really valid that we should blame the online cockfighting here that's why most people wrecked their lives?

For me, it shouldn't be stopped but should be more regulated strictly. I know there's a thing that can balance this but I don't know the specific term of it. Because of these irresponsible gamblers, the government's revenue got affected which should be a big help now that our country is just slowly rising after years of dealing with the pandemic.

Online cockfighting should be prohibited by law because it promotes animal curelty. Animals are not meant for entertainment, to satisfy anyone's need of enjoyment, nor undergo in pain and excruciating death just for the sake of a bet. It's good to know that the government of the Philippines won't sacrifice the well-being of their people and the lives of the animal over the tax and revenue they generate from it.

Based on the articles and documentaries I've read, there are a lot of issues regarding this already which may have caused and pushed the government to such decision. During the peak of e-sabong, a lot of Filipinos were reported missing, tortured, and even found dead due to their debts. Many people sufferrd addiction too because e-sabong wasn't really well-regulated by the government officials in their locality. While it is the responsible of the citizens to establish their boundaries when it comes to gambling, it is also the government officials duty to regulate it so that people won't go overboard.
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Yup, and my friend which is an agent of this game confirmed that online cock fighting is totally banned. and he said that there's no problem when it comes to all remaining balance of all players within the platform because all the agent is processing it, which a good news.

And there's another good news because there's a new platform for online cock fighting but it so called derby fighting, so for sure it will continue..
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To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.
if it's just a political promise then that's very bad, but i'm sure offline cockfighting will continue as usual because what I know in the Philippines is cockfighting is a type of bet that is very interested in.  not only cockfighting, but most gambling must make people who do it miserable and are addicted to it, need special support and attention from the government to be able to reduce the number of cockfighting gambling players in the Philippines.

The next president will be the one to tackle this when he/she assumed office and it depends on the kind of president the Filipino will elect if he/she is more on moral values, that could be the end of e-sabong if the next president wants more money in the coffer to sustain the government needs then we will see e-sabong operating again, but I'm sure there will be many changes, because of the scandal it generated.
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To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt.

Yes, others think that cockfighting is totally banned without realizing it's only on the online part.

One of my friends posted that one of the arena was now opened near them as restrictions are now getting lighter. Maybe it was opened and live-action commenced because there's no business now in online cockfighting.

Physical gambling was now back but since online cockfighting is much more alarming, it was put on halt asap.
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To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.
if it's just a political promise then that's very bad, but i'm sure offline cockfighting will continue as usual because what I know in the Philippines is cockfighting is a type of bet that is very interested in.  not only cockfighting, but most gambling must make people who do it miserable and are addicted to it, need special support and attention from the government to be able to reduce the number of cockfighting gambling players in the Philippines.
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.

To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.

We have cockfighting in our locality and even our local authorities are promoting it, it's only online sabong to get in the cockpit coliseum you have to pay the entrance fee and the number of cockfighting is limited compared to e-sabong where you have access 24/7 so with this, local gamblers cannot stop and cannot control their urge until they lose everything.

When it comes to gambling there should be a time limit and moderation, the government should set a time limit and it should be on limited number of days so they can restrict people, it's very different online you hve access 24 hours
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.

To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.
Its really that in private when it comes to statistics but for sure government does know into those numbers who had been greatly affected with online betting.Any forms of it would really be destructive on someones
lives if they dont really know to put up limitations into their spending or funds then that would really be a big problem of yours.It is really just right that the government would really be making immediate step
or action on stopping in all of these not totally banning cockfight but into its online betting where lots of people do really get involved with this activity.
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.

To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.
^ Because there are animal rights now that prohibit animal cruelty and animal abuse which is this online sabong or cockfighting online is very harmful to the animal and it also risky to the people who carried out the cock to fight because it has a very sharp blade.
This decision is very wise and I hope not only this game will be stopped also, the horse race which is also considering animal abuse and there are probably more that related to animal abuse that should be stopped. I hope not only the country the Philippines will do this, because this kind of games are very common in part of Asian country.
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.
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Overall, the decision was based on the situation of the cockfighting bettor, that’s the main concern here even if the government will lose a lot of money here, they are still concerned about the people. President Duterte should have a final paper for this, telling the agencies to fully implement the ban because for sure, illegal sites will still operate and might continue doing the business which can still result in a bad situation for addicted gamblers.
President duterte has a good choice and it's good to hear that this kind of gambling will be banned. Because no other gambling platforms that only you can bet and win or lose in this kind of cockfighting gambling the disadvantages of these are they are abusing the animal which is not good second through cock fighting many are involved in a misunderstanding and fighting between the two honor of the cock. And the issues did not solve yet many sabongero men did not yet find even their dead bodies.

Long before this e-sabong, cockfighting is the favorite of the Filipinos, and no one complained that it should be stopped because of the animal cruelty, it's more on, people going missing, that is the worst-case in gambling and the title is very much true, its worst-case scenario if numbers of people are missing and possibly killed because of e-sabong related not because of animal abuse it's human abuse that made the President stop e-sabong.
We can do away with this animal abuse just for the government to make additional money but not when people are going missing, the moral fiber of the society is eroding because of this.
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Overall, the decision was based on the situation of the cockfighting bettor, that’s the main concern here even if the government will lose a lot of money here, they are still concerned about the people. President Duterte should have a final paper for this, telling the agencies to fully implement the ban because for sure, illegal sites will still operate and might continue doing the business which can still result in a bad situation for addicted gamblers.
President duterte has a good choice and it's good to hear that this kind of gambling will be banned. Because no other gambling platforms that only you can bet and win or lose in this kind of cockfighting gambling the disadvantages of these are they are abusing the animal which is not good second through cock fighting many are involved in a misunderstanding and fighting between the two honor of the cock. And the issues did not solve yet many sabongero men did not yet find even their dead bodies.
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I don't think they can blame it to gambling especially it is the player's behavior that ruin their lives, going back to the main topic. The cockfighting in the Philippines was banned not because of the people that has a problem with gambling addiction (Not sure but probably part of it) but I think the main reason is because of the investigations of who's behind of the missing cockfighting players in the Philippines.
Overall, the decision was based on the situation of the cockfighting bettor, that’s the main concern here even if the government will lose a lot of money here, they are still concern about the people. President Duterte should have a final paper for this, telling the agencies to fully implement the ban because for sure, illegal site will still operate and it might continue doing the business which can still result to a bad situation for addicted gambler.
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I don't think they can blame it to gambling especially it is the player's behavior that ruin their lives, going back to the main topic. The cockfighting in the Philippines was banned not because of the people that has a problem with gambling addiction (Not sure but probably part of it) but I think the main reason is because of the investigations of who's behind of the missing cockfighting players in the Philippines.

That triggers it, it even becomes a hot topic in the senate its hard to ignore when so many go missing and so many people are still going missing because of e-sabong you just can't ignore it, it will ruin the justice system in the Philippines and authorities should do something about, there was hesitation on the part of the President because it bringing it much-needed cash because of the pandemic, but as he says in his own words the country is losing their moral values because of this.
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I'm surprised how many people in the thread are happy with the fact that they are forbidden something  Grin
Is it masochism? Or the realization that they cannot control their lives on their own, so they give this responsibility to officials? I don't understand this logic. Unfortunately, such moods are now popular in all areas, people are becoming too infantile.

Lol I literally laughed at the "masochism".
That second statement, sometimes are true. I know it's ridiculous but that's how it is. Have you heard about the PH president's war on drugs? A lot of people have actually changed and some people I knew who's been into drugs before pres Duterte's term, was even thankful and happy they've got rid of the horror of drug addiction.
 That's actually the same thing on what's happening on this issue on online cockfighting in the country. Though I am not one of those who got addicted with this kind of gambling coz I personally not into Roosters lol I'm more into sports.

Also, I have a brother in law who's on the verge of marital separation because of this platform.

But to me it's really funny. I do not understand the logic of people who are glad that they are forbidden something. I understand this logic if a person is addicted, but I talk about those who are free from it (and this applies to drugs too). If you are addicted, then ask for limits for yourself. But why are you trying to spread them to everyone? For example, I don't have a problem with gambling, but someone wants to ban me from it (because he has an addiction?). I do not like it.
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Is dog fighting allowed in the PH? The answer is no. Why is cock fighting allowed then? Let's be consistent here! According to these people some animals can fight and some are banned because it's too unethical when the animal is bigger? I'm usually against any bans by government, but in this case some rules should be established. Animal cruelty should always be outlawed.
Makes me wonder why they'd ban online gambling, blaming addiction, but allow on site gambling. Again no consistency. It's like the government is afraid to displease people, but at the same time trying to protect them. You can't have a cake and eat it.
For sure government do really still have that kind of confusion whenever they do tend to make some bill or laws in regarding with these gambling activities but much sure that they would really be saving up
on something that could really benefit them and next priority is on protecting their citizens.If they do saw that the situation could still be handled out then they would'nt really make any
action against it but on the time that there are lots who had been affected then it would really be just common sense for them to make out some changes.
Doesnt matter if the animal involved is small or big because it would be mattering on different criterias or factors on the time that they do make out decisions.
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Anything involving animals will have its own ethical concerns.

I think though that in general, it is incredibly inefficient to try to outlaw any sort of gambling activity because you know for a fact that people are going to just be back at it in a different form.

As you said, the government may as well take advantage of the revenue that they can bring in and regulate instead of restrict access altogether.
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Is dog fighting allowed in the PH? The answer is no. Why is cock fighting allowed then? Let's be consistent here! According to these people some animals can fight and some are banned because it's too unethical when the animal is bigger? I'm usually against any bans by government, but in this case some rules should be established. Animal cruelty should always be outlawed.
Makes me wonder why they'd ban online gambling, blaming addiction, but allow on site gambling. Again no consistency. It's like the government is afraid to displease people, but at the same time trying to protect them. You can't have a cake and eat it.
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Even in my country we've got cockfights, but that aren't generating such a big money to the government or the respective person who takes care of the cock and lets them fight. Taking cockfights to the online gambling is really big, whereas in my country it is like a contest than gambling. This happens at times of traditional festivals and people just bring the cock and lets them fight. Maybe something like this can be encouraged, but the case mentioned in philippines is very bad. The action took by the President is really appreciable.
in my country cockfighting is also called a contest (not gambling) and it's really funny IMO...

my father-in-law once had a fighting cock and he diligently took care of the cock until it became invincible, when I asked what the cock was for, he said to enter the fighting cock contest, even though when I came there I saw a lot of people making bets for the cock who fought there, how sad indeed. I agree with what the president of the Philippines did, he took firm steps to stop cockfighting gamblers.
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Each government will apply the same thing if the people who are victims, the sale of children and even missing people are caused by an actual problem by irresponsible gamblers. However, the case is already rife, not even just a few people but involving many people. I think the government should stop this activity even though it is the biggest contributor as quoted.
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