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Topic: PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded! - page 24. (Read 3700 times)

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The impact of cockfighting in the Philippines has been worse especially when lots of people go missing because of it. There are rumors that a huge syndicate is behind it. There are also recorded crimes connected to cockfighting which also involves officials and several policemen. It's too disappointing that the legalization of cockfighting was abused and caused lots of crimes. It's a good thing that the government has considered banning it because of its bad impact on the community.
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Good decision made by PH government because it really create huge disastrous effect to the life of the gamblers as well with their families.

Also their past issues regarding on those missing gamblers is also one key major factor why they need to stop this. Hopefully they totally ban this because the accessibility of this platform what make people put at risk because many are now addicted on this E-sabong.

The decision is good and the government must solve these kind of issues first before they pursue or before they allowed The E sabong again. Because in the last months the missing sabongeros are very high and until now they are not found. But for me it's better to permanently banned this kind of online gambling platforms cause now days many people are addicted to this game. Even in the complex the issues did not solve yet so it's good to hear that they will banned cock fighting for now.
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For me the good new is :
1. They have banned cock fighting which is honestly nothing but animal abuse
2. They have somehow prevented people from actually engaging in this activity.

Cock fighting is honestly a super agressive sports which can really put stress on not just the animal but people who are seeing it live as well. At the same time the economy of Philippines is going down and the first thing they can do is to actually prevent the people from using their money on things like that.

There is also an option of other people also getting hurt because of this, good news ! Hope this helps.
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Yes, the Philippines has been hit hard by the Covid-19 pandemic. 

The country does not have a large amount of natural resources to sell them abroad in order to receive foreign exchange earnings. 

Therefore, online cockfighting is very important in solving the economic problems of Filipinos. 

However, cockfighting is a very violent and bloody sport.  Roosters are very aggressive birds.  Their spurs are a terrible weapon.  Sometimes the owners of fighting cocks specially sharpen these spurs, in which case they inflict particularly severe wounds. 

In addition, a situation is very dangerous when a large part of the population becomes obsessed with gambling.  The state must collect taxes, but its even more important function is to create a healthy socio-psychological climate among the population of its country. 

Therefore (in my opinion) the ban on cockfighting on the Internet is a well-grounded and well-thought-out management decision.
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Cockfighting and other forms of gambling have been in existing in the Philippines but this is the only time that it made an impact to the society, this is because in the past there is a time limit in cockfighting and you had to go to the venue and so are other forms of gambling like horse racing but here in e-sabong it is made available to you 24/7, you can bet anytime and a compulsive gambler cannot stop himself on something that is there 24/7.
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Good decision made by PH government because it really create huge disastrous effect to the life of the gamblers as well with their families.

Also their past issues regarding on those missing gamblers is also one key major factor why they need to stop this. Hopefully they totally ban this because the accessibility of this platform what make people put at risk because many are now addicted on this E-sabong.

They have no choice but to ban e- sabong or news of people losing properties and lives will continue to hunt the Duterte administration, the revenue is huge to sustain the recovery program but Duterte chooses values over profit and that's a good decision, but Duterte's term will end, if the new president needs funding and his advisers offer huge revenues from e-sabong, there's a possibility that it will be reopened, so we'll wait next year when a new President steps in.

They always have a choice but PH government always see the huge taxes what E-sabong can bring that's why even if there's an issue like this before they decide to continue this and the owner able to collect more money to their bettors. And since government already see how huge the damage it cause to its citizens and many life destroyed by this E-sabong now they put a decision to stop this and I can say this is good implementation they made towards this long time burden of people who's family is engage with this bad habits.

There's a huge money lose by government for stopping this but for sure we can see the benefits as many people are now away for being addicted of this cock fighthing game.
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Good decision made by PH government because it really create huge disastrous effect to the life of the gamblers as well with their families.

Also their past issues regarding on those missing gamblers is also one key major factor why they need to stop this. Hopefully they totally ban this because the accessibility of this platform what make people put at risk because many are now addicted on this E-sabong.

They have no choice but to ban e- sabong or news of people losing properties and lives will continue to hunt the Duterte administration, the revenue is huge to sustain the recovery program but Duterte chooses values over profit and that's a good decision, but Duterte's term will end, if the new president needs funding and his advisers offer huge revenues from e-sabong, there's a possibility that it will be reopened, so we'll wait next year when a new President steps in.
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The principle of "The lesser of two evils" comes to mind here...

One the one hand you have animal cruelty and gambling addiction and on the other hand you have extra Tax income for the government. How will the people feel, if a school was built on the tax income from lives that was ruined by gambling addiction and animal cruelty?

This will never happen in 1st world countries where people are more distanced from the cruelty that are connected to animal slaughter for their meat. They are too sensitized and pre-occupied with animal rights and tree hugging ..than in 3rd world countries.

I speak from experience... because I live in a 1st world country and I work on contract in 3rd world countries.  Wink
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If that is the best solution from the PH government, then it should have been done to prevent a bigger disaster that could arise in the future before more people or families are destroyed because of that gambling. But we don't know whether this method effectively anticipates it or if something else is needed. But actually, people's awareness is really needed in this case because, with so many people addicted to E-sabong gambling, they should care and not get involved further.
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Good decision made by PH government because it really create huge disastrous effect to the life of the gamblers as well with their families.

Also their past issues regarding on those missing gamblers is also one key major factor why they need to stop this. Hopefully they totally ban this because the accessibility of this platform what make people put at risk because many are now addicted on this E-sabong.

Is the case already resolved? I haven't heard the latest update about that missing people..

This is bad for taxes but good for everyone, imagine, people who cannot even afford food for their family are using their money to gamble.
For as long as 2 USD, you can bet, but people who does not even earn below minimum wage are gambling, so where would their life go?
legendary
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Good decision made by PH government because it really create huge disastrous effect to the life of the gamblers as well with their families.

Also their past issues regarding on those missing gamblers is also one key major factor why they need to stop this. Hopefully they totally ban this because the accessibility of this platform what make people put at risk because many are now addicted on this E-sabong.
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cockfighting is one of the oldest gambling form that still exists today, along with horse racing. While horse racing is somewhat not super unethical, cockfighting is really unethical and it usually ends with a murder of an animal. But when governments has seen revenue, they didn't stop the spread, rather PH has a separate department for regulating such gambling habit.

https://www.pagcor.ph/regulatory/e-sabong.php

Cockfighting is a gambling game for the lower income group people in PH that's why it became immensely popular among the mass. But I am glad, that the government has finally decided to pull the plug from such bloody unethical game.

Reminds me of banning bullfighting in Spain, which was way more bloody than two cocks fighting. I can understand why bullfighting was closed - because bull will die anyway and before facing bullfighter with sward, he is exhausted by bullfighters team (dont remember their name, the guys on horses with pikes). But cock vs cock is a fair fight. Same as boxing or mix martial art fight.

What about fishing championship for example? People gamble there also. Fish gets killed, later person guts the fish and behead it. Same murder or massacre. Ban it !
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Let's discuss: (applies to all gambling-type)

- Do you think that your respective government will do the same even though that gambling is a big contributor to the government's revenue? It's a big sacrifice but no choice since lots of people got wrecked here and there are still unsolved cases of missing people.



This is the act of addiction that make people behave in that kind of manner. The major purpose of government is so it can protect lives and the property that people are having and if government is not able doing this type of function it is a failure to government. Money and live not the same. If government is getting to itself tax money and the people are dying because others set them up and also losing property by selling it to play gamble of cockfighting this is not good story for government. It is already regulated as you write it so closing it is necessary to avoid people are dying and losing property.
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Online cockfighting which seems new to me and I don't know people will get the same experience of real world online cockfighting. But banning because people are addicted is good move or else they can bring more restrictions so the addiction can be reduced but banning it is okay for me because its totally not fair to treat the animals in that way for our business.
If you are not from the Philippines then you are not familiar with online cockfighting. This has been on the surge lately right after the pandemic and it become one of those revenue making from the government. However, it went out of control, people gets addicted to it, and there are reports of people just disappearing and being taken by no other that the cops itself, so this needs to be stop by the government.

As OP stated, a kid was sold because of the E-sabong. This news was really trending because they did really sell their kid. Also, you are right, E-sabong was hyped during the pandemic because people had nothing to do at home. That is why the addiction in our country is rising. I know that this involves animals and most of us really disagree about animal fighting, but as you can see, this kind of gambling really gives a lot of money to the country because of tax. I am not really pro-ban on e-sabong and I am also not against it because there are still advantages to both sides of it.
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This online cockfighting gives access to everyone to gamble especially those who are on the lower income range, since they are the real target here and seriously even a minor can have a bet on this one and its really addicting. Though there’s no final resolution yet with regards to this one but hopefully the government will start to regulate this, and banned online cockfighting as much as possible. This has been the reason why many are broke today, this should be stopped.

There was no restriction and everyone can play especially the teens that are influenced by the YouTubers at their home and some of the wealthy old men that can't even move in their room are still playing. I know, because I have a source, a maid who was working at their home and she was telling this story to me, the old man was always pissed because he always lose, he cash in about $300 a day and most of the time he lost his bet. He always asked the maid to cash in for him to play in his room.
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Online cockfighting which seems new to me and I don't know people will get the same experience of real world online cockfighting. But banning because people are addicted is good move or else they can bring more restrictions so the addiction can be reduced but banning it is okay for me because its totally not fair to treat the animals in that way for our business.
If you are not from the Philippines then you are not familiar with online cockfighting. This has been on the surge lately right after the pandemic and it become one of those revenue making from the government. However, it went out of control, people gets addicted to it, and there are reports of people just disappearing and being taken by no other that the cops itself, so this needs to be stop by the government.
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These things are just about money. Although the culture there is also very different than in Western countries in Europe. There's too much money involved. The fact that you can also bet on it at online bookmakers indicates that there is a huge market for it. The only ones who can stop this kind of practice are the government, but as indicated above, the country loses income. The Philippines is not a rich country either.
yes they are not rich, and to sacrifice the amount of taxes they are making from online e-sabong, that only tells the business does not help the people in general, in fact, it only made their life miserable. Lotto is okay but online e-sabong is no, that's my personal stance on this matter.
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These things are just about money. Although the culture there is also very different than in Western countries in Europe. There's too much money involved. The fact that you can also bet on it at online bookmakers indicates that there is a huge market for it. The only ones who can stop this kind of practice are the government, but as indicated above, the country loses income. The Philippines is not a rich country either.
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Fights between animals should be prohibited because they are bloody, unethical and harmful.
I understand that they bring income to the State but in the end it is an industry that takes resources without producing anything, at most simple entertainment.
In this case there Is also an issue related gambling addiction... Well It was a good choice but I think a better information should always be provided because this time Is with this game the next time It could be another one
That's not actually the reason as cockfighting has been accepted in the Philippines already.

The reason why the government stopped the operation is that the poor are getting poorer since they can easily access online sabong which is the favorite of the Filipinos in all types of gambling. The decision was carefully evaluated since the government is also losing like over $10 million dollars as a monthly income tax, but they just did what is right.
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I have thought of this hard when I have come across this article. I did see some of the news regarding this in my social media field, and what I'm concerned about there is what's next for the online cockfighting because they have built so much and have a lot to offer; still, now it would seem that they would go underground/under the radar to operate. Indeed, there is some cockfighting happening like that, but probably it's going to be more discreet.

I think this is where blockchain or cryptocurrencies would go in because maybe they could somehow do it and be untraceable or something?

I don't support this, though, because I know some people who have lost a lot. After all, they couldn't control themselves when they are gambling and just decided to go and put all in with all the money they have, and when they lose it, it's going to be harder for them because that's all they've got.
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