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Quote from: Stablexcoin on November 12, 2024, 04:17:31 PM

Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

I feel that all these are rumors that won't still yield any positive results, because I don't understand why Arteta would sell and send players on loan without a proper replacement. He should've known better than others, because Injury worries can be a big problem at some point in the league. Since the departure of granit xhaka, I've not seen that perfect Arsenal rhythm. And why is that?, because they failed to find a perfect replacement.

This is probably partey's last season, and they've not been concrete talks on how to possibly extend his contract or find a replacement. For a club that wants to compete and win titles, you don't have to wait for dying minute, which in most cases leads to signing liability (sorry to use the word). In arsenal's last game, it was 100% obvious that the absent of a quality striker and probably another good AMF, is killing their game. I don't need to say much because I assume the coach knows what's best for his team.

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Man City has to bounce back with a win next round at home against Tottenham or they'll end up being 8 points behind Liverpool, as there's no way Liverpool will not beat the last in the table Southampton, who only got 4 points after 11 games. And we know that 8 pints is a lot.
In two weeks (1 Dec), both of the teams (Liverpool and City) are playing against each other, so it would be a great indicator of whether or not Man City can perform in line with expectations.

In other news, Ruben Amorim has officially joined Man United and will be leading them in their next game against Ipswich Town. United are currently 13th but are only 4 points away from the top 4, so still a lot left to play this season.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 11, 2024, 04:53:48 PM

They often have a poor stat around this period, though I think performance is worst than last season by this time but it still doesn't matter to me since they will likely bounce back.

I also have the feeling that Manchester City is going to bounce back, but the problem is that I hope it won’t be late when they are going to bounce back. Liverpool is already in first position, and the more Manchester City keeps on losing, the more Liverpool keeps on increasing the points difference between them. I hope it’s not going to be late, because Liverpool is already ahead of Manchester City with 5 points. We don’t know when Manchester City's performance is going to improve, and there is no assurance that Liverpool's performance is going to drop.

Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 11, 2024, 04:53:48 PM

You see the case of Liverpool fans acting as the title favourites, I'm over that, after having high expectations for Liverpool last season though not a fan but thought they were going to win the league, they fell off and more shameful

I was also disappointed with Liverpool's performance last session, but we can’t just use Liverpool's last season performance to judge their performance this season, we should know that Liverpool are already having a new coach, and things might just be different this season.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 12, 2024, 03:55:25 PM

No matter how bad Man City performance is, they are in second place in the standings. So it is too early to expect Man City to step back from the title race because there are still many games to be played. Besides Man City is a club that has a way to get out of this situation and get back on track. It's approaching the middle of the season and we have a long 1/2 season. Man City can rise at any time, Liverpool must be able to take advantage of the situation when Man City is not performing optimally.

Thank you, this is just something EPL fans should be very much aware of, no team is more consistent than Manchester City in the EPL and we know this.

The Liverpool that many are chanting as title favourites was better off Manchester City and Arsenal last season at around this time, but came first and second respectively, whereas, Liverpool disappointedly came 3rd. Man City has an high chance of bouncing back, even more likely during or after transfer window at worst.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on November 12, 2024, 04:17:31 PM

Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

The advantage of Arteta being at Arsenal at the moment is that the club owners still seem loyal enough to provide the facilities and budget needed to improve their club and it cannot be denied that in recent seasons Arsenal are one of the clubs that are quite loyal in the purchase of players they do not like some other big clubs who are sometimes quite stingy in spending money, for example like Liverpool who sometimes always have problems when they want to try to bring in players or extend contracts that have an impact on salary increases.

But this seems to make Arsenal also although good but still not giving the expected impact because in the end they are still in the runner up in the last 2 seasons after some of the things they have done until now. Although this is still a pretty good increase when compared to the previous few seasons but in the end it seems that Arteta's efforts always have problems caused by their own performance.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on November 12, 2024, 04:17:31 PM

Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

I agree with the Arsenal owner's move to overhaul the team in the upcoming transfer market because so far Arsenal has not found a striker who is very productive in scoring goals. But I think they are moving quite late because if Arsenal management bought the best striker in the summer transfer market, maybe we would have seen a lot of progress at Arsenal.

Of course Arteta will be hated because he has built the team's performance well in the previous 2 seasons but this season Liverpool became champions, of course that was a big blow for them. But that's just a prediction because the season is still long and Arsenal still has many opportunities to improve their performance. However, several names have started to be widely associated with Arsenal, but I hope Arsenal can move faster to get the players they are targeting.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 11, 2024, 03:58:22 PM

With the way Arne Slot is playing this team, I feel like he is looking better than even Klopp, I am not saying that Klopp wasn't a great manager, he was definitely a good one, but we are going to see Slot getting the title on his first ever season by the looks of it. Obviously the league is not over yet so we do not know what's going to happen, maybe this season at some period Liverpool will lose bunch of games too, and then City could win and then get ahead, which isn't impossible to happen, this is football and anything could happen.

At the moment we cannot compare that because after all, when talking about comparisons, of course there must be a scale that must be measured from the achievements so that in this case we cannot say that Slot is now better than Klopp because he is only in his first season and there is still a lot he has not encountered including some internal problems that can certainly occur.

In this case, in terms of performance, Slot was quite good at the start of this season but that does not mean that it eliminates what Klopp got while coaching Liverpool especially since we know that in prime Liverpool in 2020 we can see how crazy Liverpool are in terms of performance, ball possession and others so we just have to continue to observe whether in the end Slot can continue to have the best touch for Liverpool or there are some problems that in the end cannot be resolved because even though now the conditions are still very good but that does not mean this season is running without any obstacles especially the season is still very long.

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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

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Quote from: yudi09 on November 12, 2024, 02:30:31 PM

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Manchester City is on a downhill but they often face this kind of scenario every season, I expect them to bounce back especially from the fact that they can improve their squad this January.

Don't judge everything like regretting a fate, because before Manchester City experienced this, we also felt how to slump. Liverpool have felt that and in football, something like this is a natural thing to happen to a big club.
Maybe Manchester City lost in a row in all the games they played because Rodri was absent. If that is true, just wait until Rodri returns to the field.
This situation will change, but when is the time that needs to be waited for.

As a great team, they did not lose just because one player was absent and I think it's very funny, how can they assume when a team that has great dominance from season to season and then loses but many assume this defeat is only because of the absence of one player. For me, a result like this is still possible to be a reasonable result, because from previous seasons when Manchester City won the trophy, in fact Manchester City also experienced several defeats. But indeed, in previous seasons Manchester City did not get consecutive defeats like this time.

After all, even though Manchester City got consecutive defeats, but Manchester City is still in second place and has a five-point gap with Liverpool. Thus, Manchester City still on the title track even though it is difficult to overtake Liverpool, but at least Manchester City still has the chance to always be able to threaten Liverpool at the top of the standings.

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Quote from: yudi09 on November 12, 2024, 02:30:31 PM

Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 12, 2024, 02:00:57 PM

Manchester City is on a downhill but they often face this kind of scenario every season, I expect them to bounce back especially from the fact that they can improve their squad this January.

Don't judge everything like regretting a fate, because before Manchester City experienced this, we also felt how to slump. Liverpool have felt that and in football, something like this is a natural thing to happen to a big club.
Maybe Manchester City lost in a row in all the games they played because Rodri was absent. If that is true, just wait until Rodri returns to the field.
This situation will change, but when is the time that needs to be waited for.

No matter how bad Man City performance is, they are in second place in the standings. So it is too early to expect Man City to step back from the title race because there are still many games to be played. Besides Man City is a club that has a way to get out of this situation and get back on track. It's approaching the middle of the season and we have a long 1/2 season. Man City can rise at any time, Liverpool must be able to take advantage of the situation when Man City is not performing optimally.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 12, 2024, 02:00:57 PM

Manchester City is on a downhill but they often face this kind of scenario every season, I expect them to bounce back especially from the fact that they can improve their squad this January.

Don't judge everything like regretting a fate, because before Manchester City experienced this, we also felt how to slump. Liverpool have felt that and in football, something like this is a natural thing to happen to a big club.
Maybe Manchester City lost in a row in all the games they played because Rodri was absent. If that is true, just wait until Rodri returns to the field.
This situation will change, but when is the time that needs to be waited for.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on November 12, 2024, 12:57:14 PM

Yes ,you are correct . That is historical bad performance by Man City players and they lost consecutively last 4 matches and that is not small thing in football game. We saw big teams they lose 1 match ,2 matches or three matches but after that they did come back and they proved that they are big teams but last matches performance of Man City hurted the fans and fans don't want to see next match of Man City . Against Sporting football full strength team , Man City score was only 1 but the score of Sporting team was 4 which is incredible and Gyökeres was best player of this match because he did 3 goals in this match and we didn't see that kind of effort by Man City players in last 4 matches.

Manchester City is on a downhill but they often face this kind of scenario every season, I expect them to bounce back especially from the fact that they can improve their squad this January.

Team like Manchester City it's too early to judge them by their performance, they will often find a way of to bounce back. As long as Pep Guardiola is still with them it won't be that difficult for him to get his team back on track.

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 11, 2024, 02:16:23 PM

Okay so, Manchester City started the losing streak with Tottenham on EFL cup, then lost to Bournemouth, then lost to Sporting and now they lost to Brighton? That looks like it has been something that didn't happen for 10 years or so now, they have been better than this for a long long time and I believe this is going to be something that is not going to be okay at all, Pep has to figure out whatever the problem is and fix it because we are not used to seeing City like this.

Yes ,you are correct . That is historical bad performance by Man City players and they lost consecutively last 4 matches and that is not small thing in football game. We saw big teams they lose 1 match ,2 matches or three matches but after that they did come back and they proved that they are big teams but last matches performance of Man City hurted the fans and fans don't want to see next match of Man City . Against Sporting football full strength team , Man City score was only 1 but the score of Sporting team was 4 which is incredible and Gyökeres was best player of this match because he did 3 goals in this match and we didn't see that kind of effort by Man City players in last 4 matches.

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Quote from: ITExpert on November 11, 2024, 09:26:44 AM

Manchester United has shown a very good performance in yesterday match in which their players scored 3 goals and did not allow the opponent team to score a single goal and win the match.Manchester United are dead ahead as they have played a match before which they won. If prepare for such a performance in the next matches too you will definitely win the match. They must not weaken it now or the matches they have won will be lost. Manchester United have decided to make themselves capable of what has won them and will continue to win them. But it has not become so strong that it will win every match in which there will be defeat in some matches. That will prove them weak for some time. Manchester United next match is against Ipswich; let's see if they can win this match too.

Since the time Manchester United sacked their former coach, their performances have total changed to a better one compared to their previous performances, because I was also surprised with the way they make a powerful performance in there in some of their recent matches: This show that their new management is working for the team to bring them back to their standard performances.

If the team can continue to be united and be able to make powerful performances against any of their opponents, I think they will always bring positive results and also make their fans happy and also give them full support. But before the team was about to be damaged with the way they started this season with poorly performed; even in their upcoming match against Ipswich, they will try as much as possible to win the match.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 11, 2024, 09:41:22 PM

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I agree with you. There is a possibility that City cannot defend their title this season because of their performance. This is the first time after several seasons that they have more than 3 consecutive defeats. Rodri's absence has a significant impact on City's game. This shows that Rodri is an important player in City after De Bruyne. Of course Pep will try to find some players in this transfer market. They can't just rely on one player like Rodri or KDB. And talking about the title, I think City will have a hard time defending it but they can still finish in second or third place. Other teams like Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this moment to get some points advantage over City. Because with the current number of points City still has a chance to become champions again.

Rodri will not play through out this season because his injury is the worst of them all. However, by the end of this month two players would have recovered and back to the team. It would be a very difficult task for City to defend the title for the fourth time, because they are not as strong as they used to be in the previous seasons. Liverpool is super hot, and has the high chance of winning the league than any club currently, only if they would be faced with their own challenges in the long run before the end of the season

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I think Nistelrooy was warned in advance that he would be coach for literally a very short time. I think they wanted to fire Ten Hag a long time ago, but they did it only when they were sure that they would be able to get Amorim. According to the leaks, Amorim asked for the chance to finish the season at Sporting, but United management said it was now or never. Apparently they had completely run out of patience during the years when Ten Hag was coach Grin

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As for Manchester United keeping Ten Hag till Amorim comes I don’t think it was that but they did went after many managers when the Dutchman was still in charge. They just started the hunt for Amorim not to long ago

The leaks showed that United were trying to get one or another manager long before Ten Hag was officially fired. If any of them had agreed, Ten Hag would have been fired earlier. The latest results forced United management to fire Ten Hag even without an immediate replacement and appoint Nistelrooy, but at the same time they intensified negotiations with Amorim and gave him an ultimatum of "now or never". In the end, he agreed and Nistelrooy was not needed because Amorim wants to have its own team (now not only Nistelrooy is leaving United but several other team members). I think it was something like that.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 11, 2024, 09:41:22 PM

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I agree with you. There is a possibility that City cannot defend their title this season because of their performance. This is the first time after several seasons that they have more than 3 consecutive defeats. Rodri's absence has a significant impact on City's game. This shows that Rodri is an important player in City after De Bruyne. Of course Pep will try to find some players in this transfer market. They can't just rely on one player like Rodri or KDB. And talking about the title, I think City will have a hard time defending it but they can still finish in second or third place. Other teams like Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this moment to get some points advantage over City. Because with the current number of points City still has a chance to become champions again.

Manchester City situation this season has been made even more difficult by Liverpool improving performance. Last season they were not under much pressure because Arsenal was the only club capable of providing competition, this season the situation is very different, when their performance declined, Liverpool actually emerged as the strongest challenger. I still have doubts about Manchester City's ability in the next few matches because without the presence of KDB and Rodri in their midfield, their creativity in creating chances is very minimal.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 11, 2024, 03:58:22 PM

With the way Arne Slot is playing this team, I feel like he is looking better than even Klopp, I am not saying that Klopp wasn't a great manager, he was definitely a good one, but we are going to see Slot getting the title on his first ever season by the looks of it. Obviously the league is not over yet so we do not know what's going to happen, maybe this season at some period Liverpool will lose bunch of games too, and then City could win and then get ahead, which isn't impossible to happen, this is football and anything could happen. [...]

So far Arne Slot has given good results for Liverpool, but it does not make him better than Jurgen Klopp, the reason i say this is because Arne Slot has not given any title to Liverpool, while their condition in the standings could change. Unlike Jurgen Klopp, Klopp has given Liverpool many trophies.

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Quote from: ? on November 11, 2024, 08:05:53 AM

i have seen lots of posts and takes concerning liverpool and their blistering start to the current premier league campaign and also noticed that all the praises sung has been about Slot and rightfully so,but lets not also forget to give jurgen klopp his own share of praise cause this is still a team almost completely in his image.the playing style might have been tweaked a little but they still almost play like klopps liverpool.klopp might be gone but he left a very functional team for his successor to take over and although slott should be praised for exceeding expectations some praises should also be reserved for klopp.

We all know how much Jurgen Klopp has contributed to the club. Those who have watched Liverpool play for a long time will surely accept Jurgen Klopp as the best manager in Liverpool history without any argument. This successful manager deliberately left Liverpool, but it did not happen that Liverpool sacked him from the club. Jürgen Klopp may have seen that the strategy he is currently managing the team is not working very well or the team is not doing very well under him, so he left the responsibility of the team for the good of the team. And he must be happy now because Liverpool are in great form and whoever is in charge of Liverpool is doing his job very well.

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Quote from: Felicity_Tide on November 11, 2024, 04:52:13 PM

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There is a possibility that what you say is true and Manchester City fails to defend its title this season.
But remember, Manchester City cannot be underestimated even though the points gap with Liverpool is already 5 points, this is not a safe point for Liverpool. Manchester City can reduce this points gap quickly when Liverpool fails to win the match, everything is never impossible.

I still expect Manchester City to improve and for them to return to their best form after two consecutive defeats in the Premier League. Losing several key players due to injury makes them a little weak, but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will handle this problem perfectly. It's hard sometimes, but it gets better.

I have this feeling that pep will fix this whole issue in the coming January transfer window, as he might want to go for a good DM that can play that Rodri's role, because when we take a look at all games that they've lost so far, it's obvious that Rodri's absence has been the major problem. As for the gap difference, that won't be a problem for Manchester city to cover because they've done it before against Arsenal, and i think against Liverpool (from record).

Quote from: baeva on November 11, 2024, 02:58:50 PM

In fact yesterday's match was absolutely equal, there's no point in blaming Arsenal for the draw, after all they weren't playing against the last team in the table, they were playing against Chelsea, who are quite good at the moment. Yesterday it wasn't like only one team was dominating, at least I didn't notice it. They need time to get back to their pace and they will start to win

From what i watched, i think both side played a very good football and settled for a draw. No side showed more hunger for the win. For arsenal, they just lacked the ability to take their chances. It looks as if they where literally playing without a striker. While for Chelsea, they lacked that creativity in getting the ball into the arsenal's defense, because arsenal were solid at the defense. Both side played brilliantly, and i must admit that maresca has done pretty well in the last couple of months. I think we will be able to judge the case better when Chelsea pays a visit to Arsenal at the emirates next year.

Anything that makes Pep fix the club the league is really going to be hot because any club or team they meet is going to receive it hot because of the annoyance of their previous loss but i hope this is not the down fall of Manchester city because some of the clubs that lose form was like this they started so i just hope is not what i am thinking and Liverpool on the other hand is really good this season so is going to be tough for Manchester city if at all they will come back though there is still a lot of match to the end of the season anything is possible. Chelsea VS Arsenal was really a tough one, initially i thought Arsenal was going to bit Chelsea but it wasn't actually easy for Arsenal and this shows that Chelsea has actually pick form and with what Chelsea played i do not think Arsenal will or can win them the second match.

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