Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 52. (Read 65603 times)

If the Premier League still has Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho, I think both guys also become worthy opponents for Pep, (besides Jurgen Klopp, of course). But every coach has his prime time, like the coach above, Pep also has time to decrease his performance, maybe he's starting to feel saturation. He started in 2016, more than 8 years old he managed Manchester City which I think with his young age as coach still wants to enjoy a new challenge to another club.

He ever said if one day he will leave Manchester City, probably not in the near future until his contract over in summer 2025. So, Manchester City must think to find another credible coach like pep from today.

It's the same story as last season. City went down, then people doubted them to win a trophy. They took a lead at the end of last season. But's kinda wierd to think about that consider they're still at the top 3.

I suggest you not underestimate City. They are not as good las season, but they can still win the trophy. We're still 27 weeks away from the end of EPL, and how can you come into such conclusion so easily? We're still having mid and late season. I think they can once again repeat their magic.

If their top players are available, they will come back. But, Rodri is confirmed missing this season. So, they must have found a good replacement for him.

Once City found a proper replacement for Rodri, and i'm sure they will comeback. They urgently need a new DM now.

I heard some pundits believe they're lucky because no key players are injured for long. If they miss Van Dijk or Konate for 5 games, for example, there's a high chance that the tune on the media will change. I can see that tbh, so it's too soon to conclude who will win the league or finish third. To be fair it applies to any team. Injury to key players will impact their performance, the problem is to differentiate that with a tactical failure from a manager. If it is the latter it will be harder to fix imo.

With Liverpool's performance this season I think optimistically Liverpool will repeat the 2019-20 season where they broke Manchester City's dominance which had previously won the title for 2 consecutive seasons if at that time Liverpool had not won the EPL title maybe now Man City has recorded 7 EPL titles without a break, compared to Arsenal actually Liverpool is more convincing to be a competitor for Man City in the title hunt, it seems this season will be Liverpool's successful season again.

He has done it after successfully leading Man City to win the EPL trophy for four consecutive seasons, he has established himself as the only coach who has managed to dominate the EPL for four seasons, in my opinion this record is very difficult for other coaches to catch up. This season he began to have difficulty maintaining Man City performance due to several key players being injured, this condition was made worse by Liverpool increasing performance since being handled by Arne Slot. I am very skeptical that he can retain the title for five consecutive seasons, as you can see now, Man City performance is very bad in the last four games in all competitions.

That is what Pep really wants because now for 4 consecutive seasons alone it has become a record in itself for the EPL, especially adding this season which will definitely make pressure and coaches become high for the EPL but on the other hand this will also increase a good competition among coaches so that if in the end they want to become the best coach in the EPL then at least Pep is the benchmark for now because in the current era Pep is a real representative for great coaches.

Talking about games in one season, actually the EPL is not boring because this is the best competition, but when talking about who ultimately lifts the trophy, it's a bit monotonous for me because in the last 7 seasons, only Klopp has been able to replace Pep, and that's only once in a season. The rest of 2020 Pep is unbeaten since he was at Manchester City.

Pep Guardiola wants to create history in the Premier League and he may want to be remembered as the only coach capable of doing it. If this season Manchester City manages to defend the title, then they will be the only team to have managed to do so 5 consecutive seasons in history, which is clearly very difficult for any team in the Premier League to achieve.

But I understand, the Premier League must be very boring when only Manchester City has won the title in 5 consecutive seasons. This season Liverpool has the opportunity to win the title, but I still question whether they will be able to appear consistent until the end of the season or will they let Manchester City lead the standings again before the season is over.

People are already losing confidence in Manchester City with the way their performance has dropped, and most people are thinking it’s going to be difficult for Manchester city to bounce back due to injury problem which they are facing, but I will say it’s still early, Manchester City can’t continue performing poorly, and the gap between Manchester City, and Liverpool is still close, it’s not that much that we will think Manchester city won’t be able to cover up, just that Guardiola will have to fix the current problem Manchester City is having early.

In general, it can be seen that they are missing a player, but to be so much that they are losing 4 matches in a row - I highly doubt it, the reason is more likely to be something else, or maybe there is no reason at all, because with any team it happens sometimes. I think they have already replaced him adequately and we will see a good performance from them in the next match after such a big break

Because in fact even though there is a series of defeats that Manchester City got in this case but that does not mean making them decline drastically in terms of performance and the situation that occurs in the competition.

They are still in second place now and the opportunity to win the trophy is still very much there even though the gap is a little widened but it is not something that cannot be pursued by them so that the series of defeats that occurred did not necessarily link them to a significant decline in performance because I still think this is still within a reasonable threshold.

But honestly I expected something deeper than this even though it was difficult because I was quite happy to see them displaced from the championship position because honestly I wanted to see a new club replace them in winning the trophy this season even though it was still very difficult but I still expected it because I had seen them lift the trophy too often in the last 4 seasons.

Funny how Arsenal had the best chance of clinching the league after been close in two occasions, they were better positioned than even both Manchester City and Liverpool, if I could remember due to Liverpool inability to even make signings they were positioned as distance third, right now they are the front runners. Logical this point gap of 9 points is huge, but the league is just starting with most of the top matches still yet to be played so the title might still have new contenders aside this two.

But realistically now it is between this two, you don’t open up gap wide like this so early at the start of the season, in the last couple of years it is very hard to cover up so for Arsenal to even try to cover up it will be hard. But just as you have said injuries now determine the season of the club, Liverpool currently enjoying the top is to me the advantage of them having almost all squad players injury free and that’s why there title charge hasn’t intrigue me that much because I don’t think they will recover if they suffer same fate like the other title contenders

Yep, that's true. Bookmakers estimate Liverpool's chances at 2.25 and City's at 3.25, meaning the combined probability of one of the pair becoming champions is 75%. They also leave Arsenal with certain chances, but apparently only out of respect 
The only thing that can break the "logical development of events" is injuries. As we have seen in the last two years, the game calendar is overloaded and players get serious injuries in huge numbers. This can knock any top club out of the race.

When I say unexpected I actually feel that in the end it's not Manchester United who are unexpected because the performance remains the same as before even if it's worse for now but in this case I don't say it's unexpected because in the end it's just like usual for them.

Instead, when I say unexpected for now I am more focused on Nottingham Forrest at the start of this season because indeed for now they are an unexpected club for me because seeing the performance they have is very contrary to what they showed last season.

Although this condition may only be temporary for them, it is still difficult to predict that a club with a lack of resources like them can ultimately be better than a club that is richer in terms of finance and squad owned.

I know you are right, some people just don't want Manchester City to defend their title again this season and they think this is an opportunity for other teams including Liverpool and others. But still, Manchester City have proven to us that they are able to fix the problem of less consistent performance in the first half of the season and they also experienced this last season.

Manchester City and Liverpool currently have a 5 point gap in the standings and I don't think this is an impossible gap to overcome. Manchester City just needs to improve their performance and wait for Liverpool's mistakes, this will increase the pressure on Liverpool.

That is correct, people do not realize what they are doing at this point, they think that this will be something that will change a lot but in reality it didn't change at all. City will end up getting better near the end of the season when everyone else gets worse. That's what happened last season as well, we have seen City drop to as low as third, and Arsenal vs Liverpool became the talk for many people, in the end the other two lost and City ended up getting the title again.

Consistency is the key, and just because they lost some games, doesn't mean that City can't figure out a way to replace Rodri and get the win. I believe we are going to end up with a lot better results for them when they are given the chance. Of course this isn't really something that will take a long time, we just need to focus on what kind of recovery they will have and how. Pep is a master coach, he knows what to do and I bet that he will figure out a way that will shock the world.

It cannot also be said to be a seasonal disease but it is undeniable that for now even though Pep can mix his squad well when there are no several important players, especially for the midfield, in the last few seasons, especially in the last 2 seasons, they have always experienced problems of decline in performance, especially when there are no KDB and Rodri in their squad and it still cannot be controlled by Pep until now even though he has been looking for new options by bringing Kovavic from Chelsea but the situation has not experienced many significant changes.

As for the problem of this competition, it still looks quite reasonable even though now Liverpool seems to be running alone with a gap of 5 points but with a long schedule especially now that we will only just start in the middle of the season I think this is still very fixable especially 5 points is not something that is actually too worried because they even felt they had a bigger gap 2 seasons ago when Arsenal outperformed even up to 10 points.

Even if that's the case, there still have to be changes made because even though this seems to be catchable but when Pep and Manchester City can't make changes to improve the chaotic performance in recent weeks it will clearly become a more serious problem if left unchecked.

I must say you're correct but then, this same squad won games and scored many goals with this same set of players last season. Its good to see some names back from injury so they can do what they did last season. Again,  the tactics of Mikel Arteta has gradually become too defensive and boring. Maybe were going to see a different Arsenal come next week against Notin Forest at home. Good the club captain is safe and fit for that game.

They've done quite well this season and on their position, Remember I guess Aston Villa if I'm not wrong was somewhere in this type of position they're now last season but when it gets to a particular point in the season, the positions get chosen and then teams will know where they belong to, But It will be interesting to see them finish up in a that position at the end of the season if possible.

From the statistics that's provided in the table, Arsenal though didn't have a change their position have had a lesser number of points than Manchester City who were leading the league table after 11 games last season. Arsenal after 11 games last season had 24 points points but have been able to garner 19 after playing same number of games this season while Manchester City who lost one just place from their position of last season have been able to pick 23 points this season as against their 27 points after 11 league games last season.
I think English Premier League this season will be more competitive than it's been on recent years which I think will make it even more interesting.

Nottingham Forest's temporary achievement this season is indeed good. Their player Chris Wood has scored 8 goals in 11 matches. He performed better than last season which scored 14 goals throughout the season. I'm sure he can still add to his goals. Their game is quite good, they managed to hold Chelsea and Brighton to a draw when playing away, even giving Liverpool their first defeat in 11 matches. Nottingham Forest is developing very well, hopefully, they can maintain it considering the season is still long and many matches might be quite difficult for them.