We saw how Jackson missed so many chances in their match against Brighton. If Jackson was able to score some chances he had in the second half of the match, then Chelsea would have scored more than 4 goals in the match, but Jackson missed all, which is really bad for a striker. If not for Palmer, who was able to score four goals in the match, Chelsea might not have won the match.
Even his statistic is good but Jackson is still inconsistent on every match, some people think he as an Pogba incarnation, but when I look how his performance, I think it's far away from best attacker. I agree with you said, he is still young which still need hours flight on Chelsea, he still needs guidance from senior to sharp his oppoturnuty. He is also vulnerable to benched, he look ineffective in taking advantage when compare It with haaland. Now, Chelsea have Nkunku who has recovered from injury so there will be many choices to fill the front line beside him.
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It's been recently reported that Manchester United co-owners INEOS have decided to end Sir Alex Ferguson's lucrative contract as the club's ambassador. In the report, the Scot will step down from his current role at the club at the end of the season. This new development have drawn different opinions from the public but some of the legends of the club aren't happy that Sir Alex Ferguson will be step down from his role with some believing that he deserves to remain as the club's ambassador till death because of what he achieved as the club's manager. Do you think this decision by the club executives are right or a wrong move?
The new executive will have to tell how they want to run their club;Courtesy demands they keep Sir Fagie even if to review the deal to a lower price;
Ending his ambassadorial deal will however bring some controversies;
Who knows if they have a better offer for him?
They shouldn't play with Alex Ferguson, because he is the face of Manchester United, you and I know about this.
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You know better when a player is good. I think people are mistaken personals effort with the way coach instruct players to play. Palmer was the highest goal scorer for Chelsea last season and came second in the Premier League, the difference between him and Haaland was not much just 5 else he would have won the golden booth last season but the rate Manchester City were winning matches was higher than them but season might be different.Manchester City has given all there contributed energy to Haaland but if Maresca do the same, the Palmer will go far in the Premier League because if Pochettino ended up in Europa Conference league despite not playing well last season and they came close with goals, he can still do better, they just need to slow down the rate at which they lose else they will still meet the same fate of last season which is not going to be funny.
Enzo Maresca has really relied on Cole Palmer this season and he deserves that role from his coach. Cole Palmer and Haaland are two different players and different roles too - but Palmer has something that Haaland doesn't, that's his assist statistics higher. Haaland is a pure center forward - but Palmer is not, Palmer tends to play as an attacking midfielder or winger.
It's been recently reported that Manchester United co-owners INEOS have decided to end Sir Alex Ferguson's lucrative contract as the club's ambassador. In the report, the Scot will step down from his current role at the club at the end of the season. This new development have drawn different opinions from the public but some of the legends of the club aren't happy that Sir Alex Ferguson will be step down from his role with some believing that he deserves to remain as the club's ambassador till death because of what he achieved as the club's manager. Do you think this decision by the club executives are right or a wrong move?
Yes, that's right, Cole Palmer's contribution to Chelsea is unquestionable. Now it's just a matter of how Marezca optimizes the other players to be as good as that, because it's not just Cole Palmer who should be good, but at least most of them.
It should be, names like: Moises Caicedo (midfielder), Noni Madueke (winger), Sancho (winger), and Nicolas Jackson (forward), and of course, other players. However, they are key players who are very influential for Chelsea, who must be optimized again.
You should know that Palmer is an outstanding player who already had the skills and potential in him and it wasn't Maresca that made him what he is. Paler have being the only player who single handed took Chelsea to finish on 6th position last season and currently, he is still the player behind all Chelsea good performance in their matches this season. Other players needs to improve their performance by working hard. The coach has a major role to play on this, but it should be the zeal of the players to allow the impact.It should be, names like: Moises Caicedo (midfielder), Noni Madueke (winger), Sancho (winger), and Nicolas Jackson (forward), and of course, other players. However, they are key players who are very influential for Chelsea, who must be optimized again.
"Now it's just a matter of how Marezca optimizes the other players to be as good as that, because it's not just Cole Palmer who should be good, but at least most of them."
Because it has become one of Marezca's duties to be able to make his players optimal, outside of each of their talents. And I'm not saying that Marezca is the only one who makes Cole Palmer that great, but, now it's about how Marezca can make the other players that optimal. We all know about Cole Palmer, no doub and no offense. but this concerns how Marezca optimizes the other players so that they don't just rely on or rely on Palmer.
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/fa-confirm-nicolas-jackson-punishment-slap-brawl-chelsea-nottingham-forest/blt51c644e44e8e8380
It looks like he isn't getting any punishment for that.
It is interesting though. I'm curious about whether there are any other player in that chaos who has got punished.
Yes, v did not get any punishment for the incident. However, both clubs, Chelsea and Nottm Forest are charged for their inability to control their players which led to mass confrontation.It looks like he isn't getting any punishment for that.
It is interesting though. I'm curious about whether there are any other player in that chaos who has got punished.
Source: Statement | FA Spokesperson
Are you doubting Jackson? I think he has a very bright future. He's improving at every game. Sometimes, he looks bad. But, he's totally underestimated. The only problem with him is a lack of proper finishing. But his statistics are just getting even better.
Jackson is not just consistent, that’s just the main problem people are having with Jackson. Sometimes he does perform well in some matches, and people are always impressed with his performance, but in some matches you're going to be disappointed with Jackson's performance. And for a team like Chelsea, we really need a player that’s really consistent, I don’t really think Jackson is just the best striker for Chelsea. We saw how Jackson missed so many chances in their match against Brighton. If Jackson was able to score some chances he had in the second half of the match, then Chelsea would have scored more than 4 goals in the match, but Jackson missed all, which is really bad for a striker. If not for Palmer, who was able to score four goals in the match, Chelsea might not have won the match.
I really prefer Nkuku to start, and then after they are winning, Jackson can be substituted into the match. I don’t know why Enzo prefers starting Jackson and will bring Nkuku in towards the ending of the match.
You should know that Palmer is an outstanding player who already had the skills and potential in him and it wasn't Maresca that made him what he is. Paler have being the only player who single handed took Chelsea to finish on 6th position last season and currently, he is still the player behind all Chelsea good performance in their matches this season. Other players needs to improve their performance by working hard. The coach has a major role to play on this, but it should be the zeal of the players to allow the impact.
You know better when a player is good. I think people are mistaken personals effort with the way coach instruct players to play. Palmer was the highest goal scorer for Chelsea last season and came second in the Premier League, the difference between him and Haaland was not much just 5 else he would have won the golden booth last season but the rate Manchester City were winning matches was higher than them but season might be different.
Manchester City has given all there contributed energy to Haaland but if Maresca do the same, the Palmer will go far in the Premier League because if Pochettino ended up in Europa Conference league despite not playing well last season and they came close with goals, he can still do better, they just need to slow down the rate at which they lose else they will still meet the same fate of last season which is not going to be funny.
Matchday 8 odds for all games:
Tottenham Hotspur x1.52; Draw x4.75; West Ham United x5.50
Fulham x2.45; Draw x3.50; Aston Villa FC x2.80
Ipswich Town x2.40; Draw x3.33; Everton x3.00
Manchester United x1.71; Draw x4.25; Brentford x4.33
Newcastle United x2.00; Draw x3.80; Brighton & Hove Albion x3.50
Southampton x2.33; Draw x3.60; Leicester City x2.90
Bournemouth x4.75; Draw x4.00; Arsenal FC x1.70
Wolverhampton Wanderers x7.50; Draw x5.66; Manchester City x1.33
Liverpool FC x1.69; Draw x4.20; Chelsea x4.33
Nottingham Forest x2.28; Draw x3.33; Crystal Palace x3.10
The biggest game of this round surely is Liverpool Vs Chelsea. The bookies don't have much hope in Chelsea grabbing a win, but I think it's possible. Liverpool has already lost at home this season to Nottm Forest. Chelsea is a bit inconsistent, but on a good day, they are really dangerous. Betting on Chelsea or maybe a double chance bet could be a good idea.
Tottenham Hotspur x1.52; Draw x4.75; West Ham United x5.50
Fulham x2.45; Draw x3.50; Aston Villa FC x2.80
Ipswich Town x2.40; Draw x3.33; Everton x3.00
Manchester United x1.71; Draw x4.25; Brentford x4.33
Newcastle United x2.00; Draw x3.80; Brighton & Hove Albion x3.50
Southampton x2.33; Draw x3.60; Leicester City x2.90
Bournemouth x4.75; Draw x4.00; Arsenal FC x1.70
Wolverhampton Wanderers x7.50; Draw x5.66; Manchester City x1.33
Liverpool FC x1.69; Draw x4.20; Chelsea x4.33
Nottingham Forest x2.28; Draw x3.33; Crystal Palace x3.10
The biggest game of this round surely is Liverpool Vs Chelsea. The bookies don't have much hope in Chelsea grabbing a win, but I think it's possible. Liverpool has already lost at home this season to Nottm Forest. Chelsea is a bit inconsistent, but on a good day, they are really dangerous. Betting on Chelsea or maybe a double chance bet could be a good idea.
Maybe you are right with that reason, but look, what happened to Manchester United during last season and so far this season, the results are bad. Indeed, at the beginning of the season Erik ten Hag became Manchester United manager at that time, that Erik ten Hag managed to make Manchester United better. But after that season passed and until now Manchester United has always failed and struggled to compete in the top zone of the standings, but you still think Erik ten Hag succeeded, that is impressive support, I guess.
Manchester United still failed.
Manchester United still failed.
Last season Manchester United faced setbacks with too many injured players and some players did not do well enough to fight for the manager, how do you expect him to implement a style when he had no good defense? Those of you who also talk about Erik ten Hag not having a style should see his first season. So far this season, I'm keeping mute and if no development and improvements before December, they can sack him already. But if you ask me, I don't see a tactically better and sound manager than Erik ten Hag right now who they can use to replace him. How can I compare Manchester United and Chelsea? They're having a great season that's for sure but I don't care.
I'm a United fan, but when Ten Hag's United plays, it's time to restock my BP meds and not forget to pray.
On this Saturday at Old Trafford, United against Brentford. My good wishes are for Manchester United, I pray that this one wins but I am not mentally ready for this game because I know Ten Hag is still here.
I have had a peaceful international break, I wish the international break could continue till he’s gone...
There are only a few days left for the Liverpool - Chelsea game. I'm excited already. 
As I've indicated before, I'm a Chelsea fan in the PL. I've waited so long until this moment honestly. For years they have had a terrible run and really bad finishes. But finally this season is different!
Palmer is again at the top of his work. But this time they are playing impressive as a team also. Here in this game I think they have a chance to beat Liverpool too. I think it is a sensible risk to take by odds like 4.50.
It is only a fun bet I mean. It isn't a too low possibility to happen also but a really tough job while Arne Slot has also started strong.
As I've indicated before, I'm a Chelsea fan in the PL. I've waited so long until this moment honestly. For years they have had a terrible run and really bad finishes. But finally this season is different!
Palmer is again at the top of his work. But this time they are playing impressive as a team also. Here in this game I think they have a chance to beat Liverpool too. I think it is a sensible risk to take by odds like 4.50.
It is only a fun bet I mean. It isn't a too low possibility to happen also but a really tough job while Arne Slot has also started strong. 
It’s not just Erik Ten Hag tactics that is the problem. His willingness to say things like this is a problem. The problem of Manchester United starts from the Glazers down to Ten Hag and to the players. Mediocrity has been accepted as the United standard, they are so far away from what the spirit of the team used to be. So if Manchester United are able to draw against a mid table team, that would be qualified as a good game for Manchester United.
Well, the truth is yes, I think it is a very harsh word but very fair for the team , "mediocrity" , so based on this I think that many have lost respect, not only the team, the players and all those who are in that team, the winners must feel Disappointed , I do not think they feel Comfortable with their players or with the performance of the team that in reality for me the MU is not like before , as that team that inspired respect , now they see the MU as the team that is easy to take points from , and it is Sad.
Maybe you are right with that reason, but look, what happened to Manchester United during last season and so far this season, the results are bad. Indeed, at the beginning of the season Erik ten Hag became Manchester United manager at that time, that Erik ten Hag managed to make Manchester United better. But after that season passed and until now Manchester United has always failed and struggled to compete in the top zone of the standings, but you still think Erik ten Hag succeeded, that is impressive support, I guess.
Manchester United still failed.
Manchester United still failed.
Last season Manchester United faced setbacks with too many injured players and some players did not do well enough to fight for the manager, how do you expect him to implement a style when he had no good defense? Those of you who also talk about Erik ten Hag not having a style should see his first season. So far this season, I'm keeping mute and if no development and improvements before December, they can sack him already. But if you ask me, I don't see a tactically better and sound manager than Erik ten Hag right now who they can use to replace him. How can I compare Manchester United and Chelsea? They're having a great season that's for sure but I don't care.
Liverpool is one of the strongest teams in the Premier League. Liverpool is a traditional club and every season Liverpool have fought hard against the teams that have won the Premier League title. Liverpool had a great start in the English Premier League last season along with Manchester City but they could not maintain the consistency of their performance until the middle of the season but towards the end of the season they could not maintain the consistency of that performance. But Liverpool's every match this season looks a little bit different than last season and their performance gives Liverpool fans hope that the team they support can win the Premier League title this season. I also believe that Liverpool can win the Premier League title this season because they have that ability.
The season has been a great season for Liverpool in the Premier League, but let us never give them full hope that they can maintain their consistency to remain at the top of the standings. Because there are almost two teams now that are behind Liverpool, which if care is not taken, they will soon overtake the top of the table from Liverpool; especially Arsenal I'm having confidence in their performances that they will soon chances the Manchester City and the Liverpool, because they will not allow what happened to them in the previous season to repeat again this season. They have to make everything possible and dominate the league this year. The Liverpool team has been in great form so far. The team has won 6 out of 7 matches this season. Liverpool unfortunately lost against a weak team like Nottingham Forest. Liverpool will need to perform better if they want to hold on to the top spot in the table. And the winning streak must continue. Liverpool will not be able to keep the top spot in the table if they cannot continue their winning streak.
Liverpool will definitely need to play very smartly when they are up against weaker teams, and definitely need to secure the 3 points. Every point is very important for Liverpool at the moment. Liverpool will play against Chelsea in the next match. The Chelsea team is currently fourth in the table. Although Chelsea's performance is somewhat erratic, Chelsea will try their best to earn points against Liverpool. Looking forward to see how Liverpool perform in this match. I will definitely expect Liverpool to win.
Liverpool is one of the strongest teams in the Premier League. Liverpool is a traditional club and every season Liverpool have fought hard against the teams that have won the Premier League title. Liverpool had a great start in the English Premier League last season along with Manchester City but they could not maintain the consistency of their performance until the middle of the season but towards the end of the season they could not maintain the consistency of that performance. But Liverpool's every match this season looks a little bit different than last season and their performance gives Liverpool fans hope that the team they support can win the Premier League title this season. I also believe that Liverpool can win the Premier League title this season because they have that ability.
The season has been a great season for Liverpool in the Premier League, but let us never give them full hope that they can maintain their consistency to remain at the top of the standings. Because there are almost two teams now that are behind Liverpool, which if care is not taken, they will soon overtake the top of the table from Liverpool; especially Arsenal I'm having confidence in their performances that they will soon chances the Manchester City and the Liverpool, because they will not allow what happened to them in the previous season to repeat again this season. They have to make everything possible and dominate the league this year. 
You should know that Palmer is an outstanding player who already had the skills and potential in him and it wasn't Maresca that made him what he is. Paler have being the only player who single handed took Chelsea to finish on 6th position last season and currently, he is still the player behind all Chelsea good performance in their matches this season. Other players needs to improve their performance by working hard. The coach has a major role to play on this, but it should be the zeal of the players to allow the impact.
Palmer has been outstanding from last season and that quality in him didn’t stop and it continued this season also. I think if we are to rate him with that performance he’s exhibiting, we should not also fail to acknowledge his coach and other team players that have been supporting him. The brilliancy of a player has to be accredited to his team players also, because without them, he won’t be able to perform as good as he is. Palmer is a great player but he needs his teammates to be there for him before he’ll do those excellent things he does in the field. All that is needed is consistency and if he can continue with this form, he can help propel Chelsea for the league title or maybe even get a qualification for the champions league competition next season. They’ve been off for a while in European competition, I hope they get a slot to fit into one of them by next season.
I think Chelsea will continue to use his services in the team and regarding his future we do not know whether he will be sold or retained by the club so far there have been no rumors of other clubs that will recruit this player from Chelsea so for now his future at Chelsea is still quite long.
Yes, Nicolas Jackson has improved his performance this season I think he will appear better than last season but recently he had a problem in his last match against Nothingham Forest he was known to slap one of his opponent players initially he escaped the referee's punishment but there was a recording from one of the spectators shared on the internet making him currently unsafe reportedly he will be sanctioned by the FA I don't know what sanctions will be given I hope it is not a ban on playing because currently his performance at Chelsea is getting better.
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Yes, Nicolas Jackson has improved his performance this season I think he will appear better than last season but recently he had a problem in his last match against Nothingham Forest he was known to slap one of his opponent players initially he escaped the referee's punishment but there was a recording from one of the spectators shared on the internet making him currently unsafe reportedly he will be sanctioned by the FA I don't know what sanctions will be given I hope it is not a ban on playing because currently his performance at Chelsea is getting better.
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Yeah I have seen that incident in the Nottingham game. It was really unfortunate honestly.
He should learn to control his temper. But hopefully he would in time as he is still quite young.
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/fa-confirm-nicolas-jackson-punishment-slap-brawl-chelsea-nottingham-forest/blt51c644e44e8e8380
It looks like he isn't getting any punishment for that.
It is interesting though. I'm curious about whether there are any other player in that chaos who has got punished.When it comes to this week's games, Liverpool - Chelsea is the most interesting one... I will try not to miss the game and I wouldn't be surprised with any kind of a result while Chelsea are also doing great.
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But I personally see if Liverpool have a greater chance to winning that the match with the score 2-1 for Liverpool win.
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Liverpool will host Chelsea at home, but everyone will admit that it is a tough match for both of them. Chelsea needs a win to get away from being chased by Newcastle and Aston Villa, while Liverpool needs a win so that the points gap with Manchester City and Arsenal is maintained. Really, it's going to be a great weekend for the 3 title contenders this season.
We are watching Premier League matches and we are enjoying that matches. Most of the teams played well in this tournament so far and we expect good from them in future because we are audience and we want tough matches in which we note the capability of players and then we make them our heros . I like Liverpool team and that team players did well for this tournament and they will try to win this tournament. They have capacity to play in any condition and most of the players are in form . Chelsea team is also good team with best attackers and defenders and we will see high voltage match in the upcoming Sunday.Liverpool will host Chelsea at home, but everyone will admit that it is a tough match for both of them. Chelsea needs a win to get away from being chased by Newcastle and Aston Villa, while Liverpool needs a win so that the points gap with Manchester City and Arsenal is maintained. Really, it's going to be a great weekend for the 3 title contenders this season.
I'm curious about your opinions on Nicolas Jackson by the way. What do you think about his future at Chelsea? 
Are you doubting Jackson? I think he has a very bright future. He's improving at every game. Sometimes, he looks bad. But, he's totally underestimated. The only problem with him is a lack of proper finishing. But his statistics are just getting even better.
People underestimated him last season, but he's improving now. He scored 4 goals in 7 games. I expect he will score over 20 goals if he keeps up this form.
Honestly I have criticized him for a really long time and many other people also have done the same. But this season it started to seem like he is getting better. I mean 4 goals and 3 assists in 7 games is just impressive statistics. He is working more now but Palmer's role in this is really big though. He isn't a selfish player. As long as they keep Palmer I feel like Jackson will also continue to be productive. But I'm wondering whether Chelsea will still make a move for Osimhen anyway like it is rumoured...
Chelsea's enough with Jackson; we have Nkuku as well. Two strikers are enough. I see no point in recruiting Osimhen to join our squad. Just give him and Nkuku more time. They will become even more productive. They need time to make sure they fully adapt to the premier league.
Very tight competition made them harder to adapt, but they're getting better.
You’re right. Erik Ten Hag could not get along with the players that’s why he could not keep them. David de Gea was still in good form, there was no reason to replace him with Andre Onana in my opinion. Manchester United bosses got rid of Ronaldo, Sancho, De Gea mainly because Erik Ten Hag just wanted a squad of his former players from Ajax and players he is familiar with. If Manchester United bosses haven’t noticed, they are looking like a former Ajax team.
Erik ten Hag had no issues with David De Gea. I dislike the way y'all misinform people on here with your posts. Don't forgot how De Gea caused two goals against Manchester City as they went on to lose during that Fa Cup finals. Andrea Onana is also a good goalkeeper with the right set of defenders complementing him. It was nothing serious with Ajax players, maybe I think it has to do with language so he can communicate easily with them. It could be the reason why he brought in Ruud Van Nisterool as his assistant manager. You're biased and it affects your way of watching football. Y'all doing like Manchester United didn't do well during his first season in charge.
Maybe you are right with that reason, but look, what happened to Manchester United during last season and so far this season, the results are bad. Indeed, at the beginning of the season Erik ten Hag became Manchester United manager at that time, that Erik ten Hag managed to make Manchester United better. But after that season passed and until now Manchester United has always failed and struggled to compete in the top zone of the standings, but you still think Erik ten Hag succeeded, that is impressive support, I guess.
Try, at least you can compare the results that Manchester United and Chelsea currently have, at least Chelsea is getting better by having the right new manager. Thus, I think there is nothing wrong for Manchester United to also start planning to target a new coach who might be good for Manchester United. Because after all, this season Manchester United is not only bad in the Premier League, but also in the Europa League which was previously very favored to have good results in the Europa League because its opponents are mediocre teams, but in reality Manchester United still failed.
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