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If Chelsea fails to bounce back, then I am sure that Chelsea will also fail to finish in the top four. Because after all, if I consider Chelsea's last four matches, at least Chelsea only played against mediocre teams that on paper Chelsea has a good chance of maintaining its winning streak.
Chelsea's performance has dropped in their last few matches, they are beginning to lose and draw against teams that are not even supposed to be difficult for them. I am just surprised to see Chelsea's performance drop, Chelsea will have to do everything to improve their performance, if they don't, then they won't be able to end the season in the top 4, because Manchester City is already bouncing back, and if they can't win the Premier League title this season, then they will do everything possible to qualify for the Champions League. Chelsea will have to work on their defense, and they need another striker, a club like Chelsea shouldn't rely on a striker like Jackson.
The performance of Chelsea football team is very bad because that team lost last  many matches and that team should try on their mistakes. They will play next match against Morecambe football team and we will get good competition between these two teams.  Both teams played 1 match between each other and Chelsea football team was a winner of this match and we are watching the track record of both teams which is looking like same because Chelsea team could win only 1 match out of 5 matches and 2 matches were draw between these two teams and two matches lost by Chelsea football team. Morecambe team lost 3 matches and they won only 2 matches. But still I am thinking that Chelsea is favorite for that match because that team has more experienced and they will win this match.
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We knew that Liverpool would have high ball control and passes against Manchester United in the match, but no one expected Manchester United to get points from such a good Liverpool. Salah made great passes, if he had a good finish, he would have won this match with the clear passes he made.

We have come to a time when Manchester United can count a draw with Liverpool as a success. It's really interesting. Martinez and Gakpo's goals were good. The yellow card for Maguire is ridiculous, there was no foul and it happened in front of the referee. Premier League referees are not good enough.
I think a draw was well deserved result for both teams, neither side played well enough to deserve 3 points.

But this is not only valid for Manchester United. I think at the moment it would be a success for almost any team if they tied a game against Liverpool at Anfield Road. They are probably the toughest opponent a team can play against away from home. I thought they wouldn't be as strong when Klopp left the club, but to my surprise they are playing their best I think. I can't see any weaknesses that Klopp left behind. What a great team he has prepared for so many years and Slot was the lucky guy who was chosen to take over. Couldn't have gone any better for him.
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We knew that Liverpool would have high ball control and passes against Manchester United in the match, but no one expected Manchester United to get points from such a good Liverpool. Salah made great passes, if he had a good finish, he would have won this match with the clear passes he made.

It is not clear whether he will leave at the end of the year or whether they will sign a new contract, so it is too early to talk about this, but how will Liverpool replace Salah after he leaves? Liverpool cannot play the ball as fluently without Salah.
I am surprised with Manchester United, they can do a good job when facing a stronger team because in this match I praise their performance because they managed to thwart Liverpool to get 3 points. Manchester United should have played like today's match, they can balance their strength in attacking and defending so they don't lose many points like the bad results in the previous three matches.

For Liverpool, failing to get full points is quite detrimental to them in today's match, but getting 1 point is also quite good because Manchester United played well in today's match. I saw Onana several times being able to block accurate shots, of course that would be good for him so that his confidence can increase to perform better in the next match. Liverpool is still quite safe at the top of the standings, they still have the opportunity to widen the gap in the 20th match.
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Although Manchester United does not have good statistics but honestly, every time Manchester United controlled the ball and then made an attack I think Manchester United managed to make good goal attempts. So, this draw is a decent result to happen, or maybe it would be more decent for Manchester United to win this match. Also, Onana played well by making some very good saves in my opinion, I just did not expect Manchester United to still be able to play well in this away match even though playing against Liverpool, a team that is in a very good trend this season. But in this match, I think Liverpool is not good enough and of course, I am also sure there are many who lose in this match because it seems like there are many who choose Liverpool, including me. Cheesy

Most games this weekend seems to be ending draw and everyone will wonder how they were able to draw Liverpool because when the game was 2:1 I have already concluded that Liverpool have already won because Manchester United they were not really that serious with the game and they have encountered to much loses and that is why they are doing everything possible to put there self inline and at least this time they were able to draw the game because Liverpool had six shots on target and the pressure was a little much on United but they tried all they could.

Onana tried even in blocking shots I didn't expect games from him and that is why, a lot of people have lost confidence in onana because the young man have contributed to the down fall of Manchester United, last season was worse than this season a and even after sacking ten things did not really Change much and the next they will focus on will be players.

They seriously need to work on. There players this is what a lot of clubs lack, when you don't have strong players it one way or the other affects there performance.
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We knew that Liverpool would have high ball control and passes against Manchester United in the match, but no one expected Manchester United to get points from such a good Liverpool. Salah made great passes, if he had a good finish, he would have won this match with the clear passes he made.

We have come to a time when Manchester United can count a draw with Liverpool as a success. It's really interesting. Martinez and Gakpo's goals were good. The yellow card for Maguire is ridiculous, there was no foul and it happened in front of the referee. Premier League referees are not good enough.
I think a draw was well deserved result for both teams, neither side played well enough to deserve 3 points.
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We knew that Liverpool would have high ball control and passes against Manchester United in the match, but no one expected Manchester United to get points from such a good Liverpool. Salah made great passes, if he had a good finish, he would have won this match with the clear passes he made.

It is not clear whether he will leave at the end of the year or whether they will sign a new contract, so it is too early to talk about this, but how will Liverpool replace Salah after he leaves? Liverpool cannot play the ball as fluently without Salah.

The game was far more even than I initially thought it would be. I was quite sure that this game is certainly going to end with a win for Liverpool, but as you can see Manchester United is still able to compete with the strongest teams if they are able to perform at their best level. Now it's impossible to tell how they will be doing next game as they are a like a roller coaster when it comes to their performances, but I think the game against Liverpool was a bit of a breakthrough for Amorim as nobody thought they would take home a point from Liverpool, let alone take the lead in the game.
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We knew that Liverpool would have high ball control and passes against Manchester United in the match, but no one expected Manchester United to get points from such a good Liverpool. Salah made great passes, if he had a good finish, he would have won this match with the clear passes he made.

It is not clear whether he will leave at the end of the year or whether they will sign a new contract, so it is too early to talk about this, but how will Liverpool replace Salah after he leaves? Liverpool cannot play the ball as fluently without Salah.
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Do you agree with former Chelsea player (Mikel Obi's) thought concerning Manchester United's situation? I know some player supporting fans would want to blame the new coach just to stan their favourites but I agree with Mikel cause I think several good coaches have been blamed enough in the past due to the poor individual efforts of most of Manchester United's players, it think it's high time some fans stop blaming this coaches and instead channel their energies to players that are underperforming regularly and ruining the gameplay of the team, these players need to sit up, they have to start fighting for the badge and play the United way instead of underperforming and earning fat salaries weekly. Anyways news have it that the match against Liverpool tomorrow could be channelled due to a heavy snow yesterday and this morning but if It holds I just hope Manchester United players would manage to put smiles on the face of their supporters, I know it's going to be a difficult task cause Liverpool are in their best form currently but a draw won't be bad if they still can't find their form and win the match.
It has become clear by the day that Manchester United players are no longer qualified to play for Manchester United again. Their poor performance since the era of Ten Hag till now, under Amorim as head coach is still there. It is no longer the coach is the problem, the players are the main problem. Letting all go in January, to bring in quality players should be the best approach to take for Manchester United's poor performance.

However, Mikel Obi is right in all this, and many sports analysts have been making the same suggestion for Manchester United management to sell off their old players for new players. Let's just see, the kind of players Amorim will be aiming at, and how Manchester United will like to buy them, going for higher or lesser-paid quality players. Let's just see
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Definitely an incredible game, nobody expected United to ever get points from Liverpool, this season Liverpool has been great and they do not lose points this easily, and United has sucked all season long so it was clear to everyone that Liverpool would have an easy win here, I thought so too and bet accordingly. But this is football, sometimes the unexpected happens nad we need to just accept it as it is and I believe we are doing just fine at the moment. United must be happy, win over City, tie with Liverpool, while there are some bad games, there are also some good games like these. Of course Liverpool played much better this game, but Onana played a great game and gave United the chance.
Manchester United always seem to be motivated when facing clubs that are equal in terms of quality pain and great reputation with them and in this match it was evident that Manchester United were able to keep up with the rhythm that Liverpool did in terms of performance. Although they are not better in terms of opportunities and possession of the ball, I think when talking as a whole they are still quite able to keep up with the performance shown by Liverpool despite the poor attacking or finishing conditions where Hojlund and Zirkzee are still unable to develop their game.

Although this is a draw but of course this is fair for me for both clubs especially for Manchester United which is still very good even though they still cannot secure the current position.
Amorim now only has to be able to provide a good injection for their targetman and defense because for the midfield they are actually quite stable, it's just that their defense and attack are still not optimal.
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Definitely an incredible game, nobody expected United to ever get points from Liverpool, this season Liverpool has been great and they do not lose points this easily, and United has sucked all season long so it was clear to everyone that Liverpool would have an easy win here, I thought so too and bet accordingly. But this is football, sometimes the unexpected happens nad we need to just accept it as it is and I believe we are doing just fine at the moment. United must be happy, win over City, tie with Liverpool, while there are some bad games, there are also some good games like these. Of course Liverpool played much better this game, but Onana played a great game and gave United the chance.
What is the point of winning big games if a few days later, they are going to lose to Nottingham Forest, Ipswich, or Wolves? To me, there is still no need to get excited until the team achieves a certain level; of consistency. Manchester United will probably have to give the new coach some good number of years to build his winning formula for the title challenge, or sack him and look for an already established, legendary manager. Otherwise, there is still more suffering to come at Old Trafford.
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Definitely an incredible game, nobody expected United to ever get points from Liverpool, this season Liverpool has been great and they do not lose points this easily, and United has sucked all season long so it was clear to everyone that Liverpool would have an easy win here, I thought so too and bet accordingly. But this is football, sometimes the unexpected happens nad we need to just accept it as it is and I believe we are doing just fine at the moment. United must be happy, win over City, tie with Liverpool, while there are some bad games, there are also some good games like these. Of course Liverpool played much better this game, but Onana played a great game and gave United the chance.
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Although Manchester United does not have good statistics but honestly, every time Manchester United controlled the ball and then made an attack I think Manchester United managed to make good goal attempts. So, this draw is a decent result to happen, or maybe it would be more decent for Manchester United to win this match. Also, Onana played well by making some very good saves in my opinion, I just did not expect Manchester United to still be able to play well in this away match even though playing against Liverpool, a team that is in a very good trend this season. But in this match, I think Liverpool is not good enough and of course, I am also sure there are many who lose in this match because it seems like there are many who choose Liverpool, including me. Cheesy
I watched the full 90 minutes of the game and I don't think the statistics of the game did justice to Manchester United's performance. Ruben Amorim's United created so many chances and would've won the game if they had utilized their opportunities. Honestly, I wasn't expecting Manchester United to play game with such strong mentality when they're facing an in form Liverpool at Anfield. Ruben Amorim I think is doing a great job at Manchester and if he continues to improve the mentality of the players, they might just be competing for major trophies in no distant time
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Although Manchester United does not have good statistics but honestly, every time Manchester United controlled the ball and then made an attack I think Manchester United managed to make good goal attempts. So, this draw is a decent result to happen, or maybe it would be more decent for Manchester United to win this match.
I was really impressed with the way Manchester United played in the match. I never expected such a performance from them, I never expected Manchester United to get a draw in the match. Manchester United took advantage of the chances that they had in the match, and they were able to get a draw in the match. Before the match started, I was expecting the match to be an easy win for Liverpool due to the way Manchester United has been playing lately, but their performance was good today. They wanted to get a win in the match, but unfortunately they could not.

Liverpool's performance wasn’t bad also, but they wasted lots of chances in the match, which really affected them. I never expected Liverpool to draw their match today, it came as a surprise to me because I thought Liverpool wouldn’t really want to drop any points now.

Manchester United shocked everyone today, their performance was fantastic, it seems Amorin knew the consequences of losing this match therefore he took his time to study Liverpool's strategy and understood how to execute his own strategy with the right players against them, taking Mazroui to the side wing as a support to Amad payed off cause it allowed Amad to roam free and get chances to score instead of being the only one creating the chances,  Dalot on the other side was good today, he made several runs and created a big opportunity that would've led to the first goal by Amad, as for the defense, they were solid mostly, it was just De ligt who's defensive errors led to Liverpool's goals. I also noticed that Manchester United didn't give Liverpool enough chances to do quick counters, they defended well and fought back to like they wanted to win. The match was quite interesting, it's one of the most interesting if not the most interesting fixtures to watch this week and I hope Manchester United would continue with such Performance cause they'll be playing against Arsenal in the FA Cup next.
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I don't understand what happened to Tottenham. They are falling like an elevator with a broken brake. They also lost 1-2 to Newcastle today. OK, Newcastle is a very fit team, but losing the match in which Tottenham took the lead also shows the decline in the team. After City, there is a very interesting decline in Tottenham. If it continues like this, Angelos Postecoglou will have to resign. They are very good as a team squad, but they have a very fragile structure. They urgently need to recover. Their next match is against Arsenal, and if they get points in that match, the team will be positively affected mentally. Otherwise, the course is not good at all.

Tottenham lost to Newcastle, and if now that they had losing form, the game would have been worse than this because for instance, I know how the two clubs are good in whatever they are playing so I was not even expecting a win from any of them What I expected was just a draw game. and am not surprised by how they still have the same challenges they have been battling for years because any time they start well, you see them eventually going down again so this is something that seriously needs to work because they can not keep doing something like this continuously they need to work on there self and even with newcastle with the amount they are spending on that club and they are still very unserious with there performance so the better they wonrk on there slef the better and if its the issue of a new coach they should start working on it early. and them facing arsenal anything can happen in a game like this.
Tottenham have a very good attack, I say that because they will always score goals even in games they lose so the problem with Tottenham is defensive play they perform poorly defensively making them concede more goals even when they manage to score goals supposed to secure a win for them. Angelos will have to look into his defense line on this window and strengthen weak ends for better results going forward.
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Although Manchester United does not have good statistics but honestly, every time Manchester United controlled the ball and then made an attack I think Manchester United managed to make good goal attempts. So, this draw is a decent result to happen, or maybe it would be more decent for Manchester United to win this match.
I was really impressed with the way Manchester United played in the match. I never expected such a performance from them, I never expected Manchester United to get a draw in the match. Manchester United took advantage of the chances that they had in the match, and they were able to get a draw in the match. Before the match started, I was expecting the match to be an easy win for Liverpool due to the way Manchester United has been playing lately, but their performance was good today. They wanted to get a win in the match, but unfortunately they could not.

Liverpool's performance wasn’t bad also, but they wasted lots of chances in the match, which really affected them. I never expected Liverpool to draw their match today, it came as a surprise to me because I thought Liverpool wouldn’t really want to drop any points now.

Most of the top teams played a draw this weekend. Seriously, the league will be more interesting after the January transfer window is closed, no team will want to drop points by then, and every team will have signed the players that they need.
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Although Manchester United does not have good statistics but honestly, every time Manchester United controlled the ball and then made an attack I think Manchester United managed to make good goal attempts. So, this draw is a decent result to happen, or maybe it would be more decent for Manchester United to win this match. Also, Onana played well by making some very good saves in my opinion, I just did not expect Manchester United to still be able to play well in this away match even though playing against Liverpool, a team that is in a very good trend this season. But in this match, I think Liverpool is not good enough and of course, I am also sure there are many who lose in this match because it seems like there are many who choose Liverpool, including me. Cheesy
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What a game it is man! While we are in the last minutes of the game, the score is still 2-2. Manchester United are really determined about not giving up easily. Amad Diallo has really been like their best player in big games recently. He did it again by scoring a critical goal after his contribution against Manchester City.  Smiley  I never thought Liverpool would have this much difficulty and I'm quite sure most people thought the same.

My bet prediction was like Liverpool win & over 3.5 goals which had 2.28 odds. It is still possible though considering there are 4 goals.  Tongue  But against such resistance I doubt Liverpool to win a lot right now...
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Amorim currently facing challenges and also tremendous pressure to restore the performance of the Red Devils squad after ten hag brought them into the pit of slump previously, coming as a coach with a championship mentality from the Portuguese league, precisely so far Amorim has not been able to make many changes to their squad and even every week they continue to slump in the league standing, the match against Liverpool will obviously be another difficult match for Amorim, especially now that he has not been able to find the right formation and strategy in facing each opponents,  so like you are think, of course I also think that facing Liverpool will only add to Manchester United long list of defeats this season.


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In the last few matches with Man United, I rarely see Ruben Amorin smile, he always has a flat face and occasionally shouts from the sidelines as if frustrated with the performance of the players on the field.

Ten Hag has messed up Man United, he left in a quarter of the season and now Amorin is tasked with fixing it. When Amorin came to Old Trafford he was required to be able to maximize the existing player resources, and of course this is not an easy thing, Amorin was unable to do it so that Man United had to experience more defeats. On the other hand, lately Amorin's level of trust in several players he trained has faded day by day, and these players include Casemiro, Antoni Santos (El Gasing), and goalkeeper Onana. Amorin considers Casemiro's contribution not commensurate with the salary given by the club, so Amorin plans to sell him if there is an offer from another club. Likewise with Antoni Santos, the club plans to release him on loan. As for Onana, he will most likely be released by the club, but what is certain is that Amorin's trust in Onana has faded.

To improve team performance, Amorin currently needs new ammunition, but the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) make it difficult for Amorin to make changes, because he must sell several players first to be able to bring in new players.

and regarding the Liverpool match against Man United, I don't want to comment further, and as a MU fan maybe I should be more patient and steadfast, I just hope MU is not slaughtered again by Liverpool.
Whoever the coach is in amorim position at the moment will certainly find it difficult to smile because of the frustration if seeing the poor performance and bad results that his team continues to get, the slump of manchester united is indeed inseparable from ten hag's previous coaching, but in my opinion, the management of the red devils also have a big share in the  condition of the red devils, because, if manchester united dared to sack ten hag sooner maybe amorim would not have a very tough job  at this time.

I has also heard amorim discourse to completely overhaul his squad, but I think that would be more risky and could further disrupt the stability of their team when the league is running at this time, in my opinion amorim should focus on at least for avoiding manchester united from the relegation zone in the remaining matches, because I see they have great potential to be in the relegation zone given their current points and position.
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Amorim currently facing challenges and also tremendous pressure to restore the performance of the Red Devils squad after ten hag brought them into the pit of slump previously, coming as a coach with a championship mentality from the Portuguese league, precisely so far Amorim has not been able to make many changes to their squad and even every week they continue to slump in the league standing, the match against Liverpool will obviously be another difficult match for Amorim, especially now that he has not been able to find the right formation and strategy in facing each opponents,  so like you are think, of course I also think that facing Liverpool will only add to Manchester United long list of defeats this season.


Ruben Amorim stats as manager of Manchester United So far:


In the last few matches with Man United, I rarely see Ruben Amorin smile, he always has a flat face and occasionally shouts from the sidelines as if frustrated with the performance of the players on the field.

Ten Hag has messed up Man United, he left in a quarter of the season and now Amorin is tasked with fixing it. When Amorin came to Old Trafford he was required to be able to maximize the existing player resources, and of course this is not an easy thing, Amorin was unable to do it so that Man United had to experience more defeats. On the other hand, lately Amorin's level of trust in several players he trained has faded day by day, and these players include Casemiro, Antoni Santos (El Gasing), and goalkeeper Onana. Amorin considers Casemiro's contribution not commensurate with the salary given by the club, so Amorin plans to sell him if there is an offer from another club. Likewise with Antoni Santos, the club plans to release him on loan. As for Onana, he will most likely be released by the club, but what is certain is that Amorin's trust in Onana has faded.

To improve team performance, Amorin currently needs new ammunition, but the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) make it difficult for Amorin to make changes, because he must sell several players first to be able to bring in new players.

and regarding the Liverpool match against Man United, I don't want to comment further, and as a MU fan maybe I should be more patient and steadfast, I just hope MU is not slaughtered again by Liverpool.
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I can't wait to watch the Liverpool v Manchester United match ahead.  Roll Eyes  I expect it to be a one-sided match I'm afraid just as many people think the same as me. But I would love to see a competitive one of course.

However it would be too much to wait for that I guess. Because Amorim is in a really difficult situation at Manchester United for now. He doesn't have an ideal squad in his control and this is hindering him from applying his system properly. He needs new players immediately. In the meantime, we all know what Liverpool are doing.  Wink  They are just too powerful this season. At Anfield, it would be a big surprise to see him losing points against the worst version of Manchester United. I expect a victory by at least a 3-goal difference.

My score predictions are 3-0, 4-0 or maybe 4-1 depending on they concede or not.
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