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Quote from: ajanwalker on January 04, 2025, 10:02:18 AM

I don't understand what happened to Tottenham. They are falling like an elevator with a broken brake. They also lost 1-2 to Newcastle today. OK, Newcastle is a very fit team, but losing the match in which Tottenham took the lead also shows the decline in the team. After City, there is a very interesting decline in Tottenham. If it continues like this, Angelos Postecoglou will have to resign. They are very good as a team squad, but they have a very fragile structure. They urgently need to recover. Their next match is against Arsenal, and if they get points in that match, the team will be positively affected mentally. Otherwise, the course is not good at all.

Totenham lacked of motivation. Their defend always shite. Dragusin shall not play in the upcoming games or they will keep lose three points. They are declining so hard compared to the their early season. I think this pure player's fault.

Ange did a good thing by changing his strategy, and it went quite well, but their terrible attackers can't help them a lot. This must a wake up call for them considering their next fixture is gonna be harder game than it.

Totenham may be losing anothre three points against Arsenal. They have terrible h2h against gunners.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on January 04, 2025, 09:12:14 AM

Newcastle is leading the game now. They're quite dominant in attacking and defending. Though their position is not really safe at this moment, their opponent can comeback anytime. The worst thing is that if Totenham will able to equalize the score.

Newcastle really knows how to win games. Even though they are playing as guests, but I think they really have incredible composure, therefore, they can play more neatly than the host. Newcastle deserved the win.

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The game between Chelsea vs Palace is hard to predict. I know Chelsea is being favored, but seeing how weak their mentality after they suffered the lose. It's questioning me whether they can win the game. Seeing how big Chelsea's odds makes me lose my confidence to bet on them. I'd pick double chance Chelsea or draw.

The defeat should be a lesson for Chelsea and nothing comes easy this season. If they can do that, then they will be able to get another win. They have a 1-0 lead for the time being

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Talking about City, they fight against westham, which is a terrible club. However, I'm not feeling confidence they win the game, though their odds fairly small. It's not worthy enough to bet on City win consider the odds not worth with the risk. I'm thinking BTTS for this game.

It was great to see Haaland scoring goals again. Even though it wasn't their best performance, but Man City showed good progress and their previous victory really boosted their confidence. As long as City can really fix their back line and make as few blunders as possible, I think they will be able to bounce back again.

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I don't understand what happened to Tottenham. They are falling like an elevator with a broken brake. They also lost 1-2 to Newcastle today. OK, Newcastle is a very fit team, but losing the match in which Tottenham took the lead also shows the decline in the team. After City, there is a very interesting decline in Tottenham. If it continues like this, Angelos Postecoglou will have to resign. They are very good as a team squad, but they have a very fragile structure. They urgently need to recover. Their next match is against Arsenal, and if they get points in that match, the team will be positively affected mentally. Otherwise, the course is not good at all.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on January 04, 2025, 09:26:23 AM

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 04, 2025, 04:33:18 AM

We are continuing from where we left in the Premier League right after entering the new year.

Today there are many nice games to watch.

- Tottenham - Newcastle : Newcastle win @1.86
- Crystal Palace - Chelsea : Chelsea win @1.95
- Manchester City - West Ham : over 3.5 goals @1.79
- Brighton - Arsenal : Arsenal win @1.83

My picks for betting are like this. I doubt Manchester City the most because of their having a horrible season. They beat Leicester the last time yeah but I still can't trust them with consistency. Sad

Newcastle is leading the game now. They're quite dominant in attacking and defending. Though their position is not really safe at this moment, their opponent can comeback anytime. The worst thing is that if Totenham will able to equalize the score.

The game between Chelsea vs Palace is hard to predict. I know Chelsea is being favored, but seeing how weak their mentality after they suffered the lose. It's questioning me whether they can win the game. Seeing how big Chelsea's odds makes me lose my confidence to bet on them. I'd pick double chance Chelsea or draw.

Talking about City, they fight against westham, which is a terrible club. However, I'm not feeling confidence they win the game, though their odds fairly small. It's not worthy enough to bet on City win consider the odds not worth with the risk. I'm thinking BTTS for this game.

Lastly, Arsenal vs Brighton is kinda easy to predict. Arsenal is gonna win it, and the odds satisfied me, too. No reason not to bet on Arsenal.

Newcastle United has been impressive this season especially when they are coming up against the big teams am not surprised with the results because this is almost 90minutes and Newcastle United are currently leading Tottenham by 1:2 this is a great display coming from Newcastle because with the season getting close to the critical point where teams will be fighting for the top four spots and making it to Europe competition, a win away from home will be helpful to their cause qualifying for the top four this season

Tottenham has been one of those teams that are underperforming this season because looking at the team this is a team that has great potential and before the league started Tottenham brought in some great players to strengthen their squad but they have not been stable and consistent with their results this season and with the way they are playing I don't see them making it to Europe because currently they are very far from the top six teams

Am not surprised too with the scoreline between Tothenham and Newcastle, Newcastle United form has really increase as they have been unbeaten in their last 5 games Tothenham was first to open the net with a scored by Solanke in the 4 minute played before it was later equalize by Gordon in the 6 minutes before Newcastle United later made it 2-1 lead with a goal scored by Isak Newcastle United has been wonderful this season, also looking at there head to head in their last 5 game played Newcastle has won 4 times while Tothenham only managed to win just a game so am not surprised with Newcastle having all 3 points against Tothenham today.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on January 04, 2025, 09:12:14 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on January 04, 2025, 04:33:18 AM

We are continuing from where we left in the Premier League right after entering the new year.

Today there are many nice games to watch.

- Tottenham - Newcastle : Newcastle win @1.86
- Crystal Palace - Chelsea : Chelsea win @1.95
- Manchester City - West Ham : over 3.5 goals @1.79
- Brighton - Arsenal : Arsenal win @1.83

My picks for betting are like this. I doubt Manchester City the most because of their having a horrible season. They beat Leicester the last time yeah but I still can't trust them with consistency. Sad

Newcastle is leading the game now. They're quite dominant in attacking and defending. Though their position is not really safe at this moment, their opponent can comeback anytime. The worst thing is that if Totenham will able to equalize the score.

The game between Chelsea vs Palace is hard to predict. I know Chelsea is being favored, but seeing how weak their mentality after they suffered the lose. It's questioning me whether they can win the game. Seeing how big Chelsea's odds makes me lose my confidence to bet on them. I'd pick double chance Chelsea or draw.

Talking about City, they fight against westham, which is a terrible club. However, I'm not feeling confidence they win the game, though their odds fairly small. It's not worthy enough to bet on City win consider the odds not worth with the risk. I'm thinking BTTS for this game.

Lastly, Arsenal vs Brighton is kinda easy to predict. Arsenal is gonna win it, and the odds satisfied me, too. No reason not to bet on Arsenal.

Newcastle United has been impressive this season especially when they are coming up against the big teams am not surprised with the results because this is almost 90minutes and Newcastle United are currently leading Tottenham by 1:2 this is a great display coming from Newcastle because with the season getting close to the critical point where teams will be fighting for the top four spots and making it to Europe competition, a win away from home will be helpful to their cause qualifying for the top four this season

Tottenham has been one of those teams that are underperforming this season because looking at the team this is a team that has great potential and before the league started Tottenham brought in some great players to strengthen their squad but they have not been stable and consistent with their results this season and with the way they are playing I don't see them making it to Europe because currently they are very far from the top six teams

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 04, 2025, 04:33:18 AM

We are continuing from where we left in the Premier League right after entering the new year.

Today there are many nice games to watch.

- Tottenham - Newcastle : Newcastle win @1.86
- Crystal Palace - Chelsea : Chelsea win @1.95
- Manchester City - West Ham : over 3.5 goals @1.79
- Brighton - Arsenal : Arsenal win @1.83

My picks for betting are like this. I doubt Manchester City the most because of their having a horrible season. They beat Leicester the last time yeah but I still can't trust them with consistency. Sad

Newcastle is leading the game now. They're quite dominant in attacking and defending. Though their position is not really safe at this moment, their opponent can comeback anytime. The worst thing is that if Totenham will able to equalize the score.

The game between Chelsea vs Palace is hard to predict. I know Chelsea is being favored, but seeing how weak their mentality after they suffered the lose. It's questioning me whether they can win the game. Seeing how big Chelsea's odds makes me lose my confidence to bet on them. I'd pick double chance Chelsea or draw.

Talking about City, they fight against westham, which is a terrible club. However, I'm not feeling confidence they win the game, though their odds fairly small. It's not worthy enough to bet on City win consider the odds not worth with the risk. I'm thinking BTTS for this game.

Lastly, Arsenal vs Brighton is kinda easy to predict. Arsenal is gonna win it, and the odds satisfied me, too. No reason not to bet on Arsenal.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on January 04, 2025, 05:20:16 AM

Quote from: Helena Yu on January 03, 2025, 08:47:44 AM

Quote from: Lannakosa on January 03, 2025, 08:18:07 AM

Manchester United are going through a very difficult time, if I'm not mistaken, these are the most difficult times for the team in their entire history. And Liverpool are in optimal shape and beat all opponents both in the Premier League and in the Champions League, so I think they will have no difficulty beating such a Manchester United. Actually, after the dismissal of ten Hag, Manchester United became even worse, so I don't see any reason why they could beat Liverpool.

Yep, I'm surprised to see the odds for Liverpool to win is @1.30, I mean Liverpool will play with complete squad, their will play in Anfield, and their opponent is just Manchester United. I would say the odds should be @1.10 or less considering this match will be an auto win for Liverpool.

There's no way for Manchester United to beat Liverpool, they have zero chance.

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1.30 is a decent odds consider it's a home game against a bottom table club. Liverpool won't be struggle to beat United, and obviously they will play with full squad. I was never hoping the odds would be as small as you said, consider this can be a less effort game to bet for us.

Liverpool is statistically farr better than United in any aspects. It's hard to tell how big United's chance to win or draw, but based on Opta,United has less than 15% chance to win. I think that makes sense.

It would be a big surprise if Manchester United could win the game and personally I think the percentage is much smaller than you mentioned.

I see it realistically as both teams are in different conditions now regardless of what happened in the past but I think that is no longer the case and what is clear now is that Manchester United are in a slump and Liverpool are in top form since the start of the season so I think Liverpool can win this game easily.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on January 03, 2025, 08:47:44 AM

Quote from: Lannakosa on January 03, 2025, 08:18:07 AM

Manchester United are going through a very difficult time, if I'm not mistaken, these are the most difficult times for the team in their entire history. And Liverpool are in optimal shape and beat all opponents both in the Premier League and in the Champions League, so I think they will have no difficulty beating such a Manchester United. Actually, after the dismissal of ten Hag, Manchester United became even worse, so I don't see any reason why they could beat Liverpool.

Yep, I'm surprised to see the odds for Liverpool to win is @1.30, I mean Liverpool will play with complete squad, their will play in Anfield, and their opponent is just Manchester United. I would say the odds should be @1.10 or less considering this match will be an auto win for Liverpool.

There's no way for Manchester United to beat Liverpool, they have zero chance.

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1.30 is a decent odds consider it's a home game against a bottom table club. Liverpool won't be struggle to beat United, and obviously they will play with full squad. I was never hoping the odds would be as small as you said, consider this can be a less effort game to bet for us.

Liverpool is statistically farr better than United in any aspects. It's hard to tell how big United's chance to win or draw, but based on Opta,United has less than 15% chance to win. I think that makes sense.

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Quote from: Joca97 on January 03, 2025, 06:16:44 PM

Manchester city needs to win this game after a good performance last time. I think they have this in the bag against West ham. West Ham is in a really difficult situation and I think they might get Destroyed. Liverpool has an easy matchup against Manchester United that is in a really bad form and I don’t see a way out of it and they are playing against one of the biggest opponents. I also think that Chelsea will win against Crystal Palace and they will break the streak, I’m gonna take Chelsea to win. I think after those bad games against Ipswich and against Everton, they will win in this game. If not, they will lose their title hopes.

For City, nothing is clear yet, they beat Leicester but their victory was not as convincing as before, and I would not rush to say that City is now fine and they have passed the crisis, West Ham will definitely be stronger than Leicester. Regarding Chelsea, I would not rush either, they have had problems with attack in the last three games, and obviously with defense too, and Manchester United seems to be in an even worse situation and Amorim urgently needs to start getting points...

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We are continuing from where we left in the Premier League right after entering the new year.

Today there are many nice games to watch.

- Tottenham - Newcastle : Newcastle win @1.86
- Crystal Palace - Chelsea : Chelsea win @1.95
- Manchester City - West Ham : over 3.5 goals @1.79
- Brighton - Arsenal : Arsenal win @1.83

My picks for betting are like this. I doubt Manchester City the most because of their having a horrible season. They beat Leicester the last time yeah but I still can't trust them with consistency. Sad

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 03, 2025, 05:57:16 PM

I think Man City is too much of a favourite, they might have won their last game (finally!) but I think their problems are far from over. I don't think West Ham will win, but there's a big chance they will split points.
As for Liverpool - easy 3 points.

man city will definitely win against west ham that is for sure except they get to experience another hard luck that will further make things too deficult for them. The season is going really far and they can't afford to loose yet another game and get all frustrated in the process of the game. Talking of Liverpool vs Manchester United game, it's just funny how we easily write off united due to thier bad form and assume that any strong team they go against must always win them. This is going to be one critical game that united might suppressingly get a winner or a draw against Liverpool if they are ready to play like a real team and not the normal casual play they normally put up.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on January 03, 2025, 08:47:44 AM

Quote from: Lannakosa on January 03, 2025, 08:18:07 AM

Manchester United are going through a very difficult time, if I'm not mistaken, these are the most difficult times for the team in their entire history. And Liverpool are in optimal shape and beat all opponents both in the Premier League and in the Champions League, so I think they will have no difficulty beating such a Manchester United. Actually, after the dismissal of ten Hag, Manchester United became even worse, so I don't see any reason why they could beat Liverpool.

Yep, I'm surprised to see the odds for Liverpool to win is @1.30, I mean Liverpool will play with complete squad, their will play in Anfield, and their opponent is just Manchester United. I would say the odds should be @1.10 or less considering this match will be an auto win for Liverpool.

There's no way for Manchester United to beat Liverpool, they have zero chance.

Basically, that's looking a bit more like that is a possibility and I agree that it would do better. I can see how that could be the key here because Liverpool looks like they are going to end up with a much better result without a doubt. I can see that the yare going to get a win and how United is looking terrible, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a bad deal, we need to see this as a benefit because while odds are small, it's still profit, and in this day and age, profit is profit, making money is so hard, and Liverpool is basically giving us free money.

Obviously there is no guarantee, maybe the entire world will be shocked with a tie or a loss to Liverpool, that's not "impossible", but to be fair that looks like it's as unlikely as it gets, so I do not really have any type of guess on how it could be a draw or a United win. Obviously I am just making an assumption and it's not a financial advice, I am just going to do it myself because I believe in it.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on January 03, 2025, 08:47:44 AM

Quote from: Lannakosa on January 03, 2025, 08:18:07 AM

Manchester United are going through a very difficult time, if I'm not mistaken, these are the most difficult times for the team in their entire history. And Liverpool are in optimal shape and beat all opponents both in the Premier League and in the Champions League, so I think they will have no difficulty beating such a Manchester United. Actually, after the dismissal of ten Hag, Manchester United became even worse, so I don't see any reason why they could beat Liverpool.

Yep, I'm surprised to see the odds for Liverpool to win is @1.30, I mean Liverpool will play with complete squad, their will play in Anfield, and their opponent is just Manchester United. I would say the odds should be @1.10 or less considering this match will be an auto win for Liverpool.

There's no way for Manchester United to beat Liverpool, they have zero chance.

I think we should be careful to bet on Liverpool's victory this time even though there is no doubt that Liverpool can beat Man United but if you look at the odds given by the bookies @1.31 for Liverpool's victory I think there will be a surprise in this match whether Man United wins the match or will get a draw, consider betting on the total Asia over 2.25 or BTTS which has odds @1.77 I think both clubs will score in this match.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 03, 2025, 05:57:16 PM

While some of the major European leagues are having a winter break, the Premier League is not stopping.
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I think Man City is too much of a favourite, they might have won their last game (finally!) but I think their problems are far from over. I don't think West Ham will win, but there's a big chance they will split points.
As for Liverpool - easy 3 points.

Tottenham has many problem with the injured players, they can't play Micky van de Ven, Richarlison, Guglielmo Vicario, Ben Davies, Cristian Romero, Wilson Odobert, and Destiny Udogie. At the same time, Rodrigo Bentancur can't play also due to accumulation of yellow cards. Their performance is also not good because never get a win on the last 3 matches. They just won when meet MU on EFL cup and Southampton on 16 December ago. I think, only surprises are possible that make they won on their home, because when we compare with Newcastle squad, Tottenham are not better performance and they have problem with coordination team on front.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 03, 2025, 05:57:16 PM

While some of the major European leagues are having a winter break, the Premier League is not stopping.
Here are complete fixtures, together with odds from Duelbits for all of this weekend's games:

I think Man City is too much of a favourite, they might have won their last game (finally!) but I think their problems are far from over. I don't think West Ham will win, but there's a big chance they will split points.
As for Liverpool - easy 3 points.

Manchester city needs to win this game after a good performance last time. I think they have this in the bag against West ham. West Ham is in a really difficult situation and I think they might get Destroyed. Liverpool has an easy matchup against Manchester United that is in a really bad form and I don’t see a way out of it and they are playing against one of the biggest opponents. I also think that Chelsea will win against Crystal Palace and they will break the streak, I’m gonna take Chelsea to win. I think after those bad games against Ipswich and against Everton, they will win in this game. If not, they will lose their title hopes.

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While some of the major European leagues are having a winter break, the Premier League is not stopping.
Here are complete fixtures, together with odds from Duelbits for all of this weekend's games:

I think Man City is too much of a favourite, they might have won their last game (finally!) but I think their problems are far from over. I don't think West Ham will win, but there's a big chance they will split points.
As for Liverpool - easy 3 points.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 03, 2025, 05:23:01 PM

There was no way a new manager will come to a big team like Manchester United and perform magic almost immediately. That will only be possible if he met an already stable team just like Arne Slot and Liverpool.

The stakes were slightly higher at Manchester than we would say for Liverpool but, Arne Slot didn’t meet a completely stable team when he took over management of the team from Klopp. Liverpool was at the brink of loosing there magic, Klopp’s tactics wasn’t working any more and he wasn’t having the best of relationship with his players towards his departure. Mainly M. Salah but, he had a good squad to the end which explains why, Arne Slot joined up and is doing such a good job.

What’s surprising is how he was able to utilize the players to be at their best and they’ve been nothing short of that. For Manchester United, that’s a long short that doesn’t seem achievable in this season.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 03, 2025, 04:56:41 PM

I am sure that United will eventually do better, it's just that they have built a squad that is filled with not so great players, and Amorim is trying to make them play within his system, to players who all played under Erik Ten Hag and do not know how Amorim wants them to play, so it is taking time. I believe next season is the one they will do better, plus it's almost guaranteed they won't have UCL or any UEFA competition, not even conference league, which means that they will not have hard time playing that many games. If they could end up losing EFL quickly, that would not be too bad neither, or FA, they should pick one of them, and not the other.

EFL would be good, if they do that and lose FA, then they would have minimum games, and would be much more rested than all other big clubs. This could allow them to focus on the league a lot more, and have fitness to beat teams even better than them, because those teams would be tired and have fatigue issues.

Even then Newcastle United will put their best for winning in this match because they are ranking behinds of the Chelsea club on the point table and the difference is only 3. And so I think they definitely don't want to increase this gap by losing one match.
And if we go about the performance, I think this match will be in Newcastle United's favor anyway. Because Newcastle United team is undefeated in the last five matches while Tottenham Hotspur's previous matches' results are not very good. I expect at least two goals from Newcastle United in this match and they win.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 03, 2025, 05:06:35 PM

When Ruben Amorim was appointed the manager of Manchester United, I wasn't expecting him to perform magic by immediately making them a big contender for major trophies and that's because the club was performing below average before the former Sporting CP Manager arrived. Though I expected better results than what I'm currently seeing in the club but I think Amorim will definitely improve the club and make them a strong force in English football again.

Most Manchester United fans expected Amorim to perform magic after joining the club, they were expecting their performance to change just the way Liverpool's and Chelsea's performance changed after getting a new coach, but both Liverpool's and Chelsea's conditions can’t be compared with Manchester United’s own. Chelsea has quality players, all they needed then was a coach who would be able to make use of the players that they have, and Enzo Maresca is doing well even as Chelsea's performance is poor in some positions, but they are still performing well this season.

I just have the feeling that Manchester United players are not ready to play for the club, or maybe they are already too old for a team like Manchester United, so Amorim will have to let lots of them go and will have to sign new players.

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