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Manchester City have been really disappointing recently. They lost their last 4 official games. This is really big for a team being called one of the strongest teams in the world. I can't say I'm sad for them in the Premier League though. Grin

Because I really want to see a different champion this year. Liverpool look really promising for that for now.

Anyways, every team get out of form sometimes. I'm curious about whether Guardiola will still win the league title another time despite these hard times. What do you think, Liverpool or Manchester City? Huh

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Quote from: len01 on November 15, 2024, 01:42:59 PM

Regarding the match against Southampton, we should not be too quick to make predictions about Liverpool victory. Because after all, Liverpool has experienced defeat against Nottingham.
So playing against Man City later will also not be easy because if Liverpool loses and Man City will definitely be under pressure because the points difference is very close.

Southampton is at the bottom of the standings and Liverpool the top of the standings. Southampton was only able to win once and Liverpool were able to collect nine wins from eleven matches.
The strength possessed by Southampton and Liverpool when viewed from numbers, Liverpool are superior. I always remind myself that the English Premier League is not as easy as expected.

Their match, from many factors, Liverpool can be at stake winning. Considering that the English Premier League can be surprised when many people don't think the lower -board team can win against the top of the standings, the spontaneous attitude of the decision must be considered.

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Quote from: len01 on November 15, 2024, 01:42:59 PM

Honestly, I admit that Liverpool currently has a very good performance. But do you believe this is the beginning of success?
Now we all know that the new coach Arne Slot is currently getting praise, and no one realizes that what Arne Slot currently has is just the foundation that was built by Klopp. So Arne Slot only continues the strategy and tactics of the previous coach.
Meanwhile, Arne Slot toughest challenge will occur in the transfer market at the end of the season.

Regarding the match against Southampton, we should not be too quick to make predictions about Liverpool victory. Because after all, Liverpool has experienced defeat against Nottingham.
So playing against Man City later will also not be easy because if Liverpool loses and Man City will definitely be under pressure because the points difference is very close.

Liverpool are going to win the Premier League on some conditions and it doesn't matter if Arne Slot is a new sheriff in town or has not won any Premier League before in his career. The only two teams right now thag stand before Arne Slot from winning the Premier League is Manchester City and Arsenal, while Arsenal is 50% chance of winning the Premier League, Manchester City is still in the game, I'm not sure of the plans tomorrow has in this tournament.

Some people might think that Chelsea is also in the race but that's a fat lie prediction. Manchester City will win this season of Premier League to make it 5 before Chelsea can win it but I commend their effort, they have improved 3x better than their previous seasons but they just in the same place with Arsenal or even lower than them. Nottingham are just having the time of their life, by t th e time the are done entertaining their fans, they will drop from the table.

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The current situation does make us quite pessimistic with Manchester City and Arsenal in my opinion, because they they have problems that cannot be resolved, so we can think that to win the English Main League and the Champions League I am very doubtful if they continue to experience setbacks, But for Say Guardiola is always good at restoring things, just as last season Guardiola was difficult but they managed to restore the situation and return to the top to lead the standings, only in the Champions League defeated by Real Madrid when Man City had not yet fully recovered, and Arsenal in the Champions League are quite worrying, they always don't qualify to enter important rounds.

I don't think that way especially for Manchester City. Talking about performance, it is indeed a surprise that Manchester City continue to achieve unsatisfactory results in the last few matches is like seeing an unexpected situation because Pep has always struggled to keep his defense in the last few matches but when talking about the probability of winning they still remain one of the clubs that make it possible to do so at the end of the season and I am quite sure of that.

The fact that they are sometimes always like this in the middle of the season and can always end well where Pep can always give things that are sometimes difficult to digest makes me believe that they will be able to compete well again and it is not impossible to overtake Liverpool again in the remaining time. Its only been 11 weeks and that means there are still 27 weeks to go before they finish the season and a 5 point difference in a season that is still very long is nothing for Pep and Manchester City.

Is this a disease that is definitely experienced by Man City? But if you remember again last season, it is not as bad as now, what is more profitable here is that Arsenal also experienced the same thing, unlike last season Arsenal remain consistent and compete with Man City very close, but now the difference in points with Liverpool is 5 points and not bad Quite far, they have to return, don't let Liverpool continue to add more points further.

And what is my friendship is to arrive at the transfer market window in January is still fairly long and this will be a pretty hard task to rebuild the squad when the players are in need of credible players to realize some important positions.

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Quote from: virasog on November 15, 2024, 11:06:40 AM

Liverpool have defeated Aston Villa in their last match and they are looking strong in this season. Gabriel Nunez and Mohamed Salah Hamed are in good form too and both of them scored in the last game. Their next game will be against Southampton on 24 November. Southampton is the weakest team so they (Liverpool) are like to get winning points from this match. Their next tough match will be against Man City on December 01. This will be a tough match for them as Man City are on the number 2 on the points table with 7 win. However, even if Liverpool loses this match they will still retain their first position as they have a lead of 5 points against Man City.

Honestly, I admit that Liverpool currently has a very good performance. But do you believe this is the beginning of success?
Now we all know that the new coach Arne Slot is currently getting praise, and no one realizes that what Arne Slot currently has is just the foundation that was built by Klopp. So Arne Slot only continues the strategy and tactics of the previous coach.
Meanwhile, Arne Slot toughest challenge will occur in the transfer market at the end of the season.

Regarding the match against Southampton, we should not be too quick to make predictions about Liverpool victory. Because after all, Liverpool has experienced defeat against Nottingham.
So playing against Man City later will also not be easy because if Liverpool loses and Man City will definitely be under pressure because the points difference is very close.

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With the way Arne Slot is playing this team, I feel like he is looking better than even Klopp, I am not saying that Klopp wasn't a great manager, he was definitely a good one, but we are going to see Slot getting the title on his first ever season by the looks of it. Obviously the league is not over yet so we do not know what's going to happen, maybe this season at some period Liverpool will lose bunch of games too, and then City could win and then get ahead, which isn't impossible to happen, this is football and anything could happen.

At the moment we cannot compare that because after all, when talking about comparisons, of course there must be a scale that must be measured from the achievements so that in this case we cannot say that Slot is now better than Klopp because he is only in his first season and there is still a lot he has not encountered including some internal problems that can certainly occur.
In this case, in terms of performance, Slot was quite good at the start of this season but that does not mean that it eliminates what Klopp got while coaching Liverpool especially since we know that in prime Liverpool in 2020 we can see how crazy Liverpool are in terms of performance, ball possession and others so we just have to continue to observe whether in the end Slot can continue to have the best touch for Liverpool or there are some problems that in the end cannot be resolved because even though now the conditions are still very good but that does not mean this season is running without any obstacles especially the season is still very long.

I think I know what is happening here. Remember when Alonso became the manager of Leverkusen? He was able to bring an incredible performance in the first season but as soon as one coach was able to find out the weakness in his plan, his tactics were not as effective. I think something similar might actually happen with Arne Slot. He is a new manager and I think that's why nobody is actually sure how to counter his tactics. But if someone is going to actually find a good counter, then Liverpool is going to face exactly the same problems that Leverkusen is facing as the tactics are not as effective anymore.

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Quote from: junder on November 15, 2024, 03:01:23 AM

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Yes, actually Arsenal is a fairly strong club in the Premier League but their strength is sometimes not entirely consistent, that's what made them fail to win the Premier League title in the last 2 seasons and in my opinion it is also caused by the depth of their squad which is not better than Man City and yes Mikel Arteta does need to recruit some quality players to make their appearance more consistent in the future so that they are more free to compete in the title hunt with Man City this season.

Yes you are right about Arsenal and why they don't always win the Premier League trophy. You have explained the reasons in full. I totally agree and indeed Arsenal is strong enough to compete in this competition but only as a complement to strong candidates and in the end other teams will lift the trophy. Arsenal only lacks a sharp striker osimhen might be the right option to solve this problem I hope arteta and the club management can bring this player to the emirates stadium in the next transfer market.

It should be realised that the increase in Arsenal's performance has only been running for a few seasons and indeed the fact is that not only Arsenal but for other big clubs will also be similar where when the EPL still has Manchester City with Pep, the competition will not be as easy as imagined.

It's not that Arsenal and Arteta are bad in this case it's just that Manchester City and Arteta are superior which makes conditions more difficult than imagined.
The last 7 seasons even only 1 time Liverpool can overtake Manchester City in the trophy race and that proves that the quality of Manchester City is still unstoppable so no matter how strong Arsenal and Arteta are when they can't stop Pep's dominance at Manchester City then it won't mean much for the competition in the race for the trophy.

Now it is also still the same as before even though currently Arsenal are not very good in the last few matches but their chances are still there, it's just that Manchester City and Pep are always the centre of attention in the end because after all even though currently in the last few matches Manchester City have not done their job well, but they are still a club that still has great potential to win.

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Quote from: junder on November 15, 2024, 03:01:23 AM

Yes you are right about Arsenal and why they don't always win the Premier League trophy. You have explained the reasons in full. I totally agree and indeed Arsenal is strong enough to compete in this competition but only as a complement to strong candidates and in the end other teams will lift the trophy. Arsenal only lacks a sharp striker osimhen might be the right option to solve this problem I hope arteta and the club management can bring this player to the emirates stadium in the next transfer market.

Arsenal winning the premier league trophy is now like the camel entering the eye of a needle that shows that it is very impossible for them to actually win, no one will even argue that arsenal is not strong but it's as if their faith is to be among a partner position and they are finding it very hard to win anything after all the effort they put in is now that they want to get serious to win the trophy, instead of arsenal going for defender they would have just focus on getting strikers for the club, and even aside buying strikers they should have strikers from the academy why not select from there or arteta feels that they are incompetent and he would have just given them the benefit of doubt.

For years now arsenal have been struggling forget the fact that I don't like them they will even try everything but it is not worth it at the end of the day one boy thay I enjoy is football is not more than saka if he can get a support then arsenal might get better, they need a lot of arrangements for them to be able to bring arsenal back to its form.

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Yes, actually Arsenal is a fairly strong club in the Premier League but their strength is sometimes not entirely consistent, that's what made them fail to win the Premier League title in the last 2 seasons and in my opinion it is also caused by the depth of their squad which is not better than Man City and yes Mikel Arteta does need to recruit some quality players to make their appearance more consistent in the future so that they are more free to compete in the title hunt with Man City this season.

Yes you are right about Arsenal and why they don't always win the Premier League trophy. You have explained the reasons in full. I totally agree and indeed Arsenal is strong enough to compete in this competition but only as a complement to strong candidates and in the end other teams will lift the trophy. Arsenal only lacks a sharp striker osimhen might be the right option to solve this problem I hope arteta and the club management can bring this player to the emirates stadium in the next transfer market.

I think Arsenal not having that sharp striker could be the reason why they always fail to get the trophy. Manchester City has a very good striker like Haaland and scoring goals is not always difficult for him, in every match it is possible for him to score a goal. I think if Arsenal have good striker that have the same quality and strength of Haaland it will be very easy for arsenal to win Premier league.

The recent games of arsenal they struggle so much to score goal and I think it is even getting obvious that have not been able to maintain a good position in the league. Arsenal is a good team when it comes to performance but they are lacking something that's why they can't stand the strength of Manchester City.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 15, 2024, 01:53:56 AM

In terms of points, the gap is starting to be created at the top, and Liverpool is racing ahead with the highest points. However, considering the number of matches is still very long, so the opportunity is still quite open for several teams. This depends on Liverpool, because usually they also decline when entering the end of the season, such as what happened last season. However, I do not know what will happen this season because they are also handled by a new coach. Competition will continue to be created, because it is possible that unwanted things will happen in matches in the middle of the season. We never know what problems will be faced by teams like Liverpool. Not expecting, but things like this often happen.

Liverpool have defeated Aston Villa in their last match and they are looking strong in this season. Gabriel Nunez and Mohamed Salah Hamed are in good form too and both of them scored in the last game. Their next game will be against Southampton on 24 November. Southampton is the weakest team so they (Liverpool) are like to get winning points from this match. Their next tough match will be against Man City on December 01. This will be a tough match for them as Man City are on the number 2 on the points table with 7 win. However, even if Liverpool loses this match they will still retain their first position as they have a lead of 5 points against Man City.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on November 13, 2024, 04:05:37 PM

I suspect that the Manchester United players intentionally fired Ten Hag since they seemed to be tired of him as manager as well. Ruud Van Nistelrooy used the same players that had been used and won the four games. They've scored 11 goals in the previous four games in all competitions. They played perfectly against Leicester City; even Casemiro was able to defend. Manchester United we have been waiting a long time to see, and I think they are back to winning ways. But before the season ends, let's see how amazing Rúben Amorim can make this team.

I disagree with what you have just said. I don't think Manchester United players are the real reason for the sack of Erick Ten Hag. I would say he is the real reason for his own downfall, he was a delusional manager and could not accept that the team was failing under his management. Ruud van Nistelrooy performed great with the same squad that Erik ten Hag used proving that the problem was not the players but the manager. I believe with the appointment of Ruben Amorim, Manchester United will be a better team.

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I saw this post on the Premier League’s official Instagram page. The caption was ‘so much cab change in a year’. At first I thought it was a roast at Manchester City since they were number 1 last season and now are struggling between games to keep their position at number 2 on the table. But more interesting is that Arsenal didn’t really change, they maintained the same spot. And Manchester United have dropped drastically this year, from 8th on the table last year to 13th on the table. Which other team caught your eye?

What caught my eye most was the difference in points scored by clubs in 3rd to 5th place. 24 and 19 points is a huge difference over such a distance, and even if Arsenal, for example, formally retains its 4th place, the real distance to 1st place and, in general, to participation in the title race is now much greater.
Plus, of course, the rise of Nottingham and Chelsea is attracting attention. Are Nottingham embarking on a quest for a third Champions League title? Cheesy

Well this is the premier league standings of both last season match week11 and this season match week 11 and I can see significant changes in the table. The team that caught my eye is Nottingham forest their significant rise and progress highlights that they are doing well, while the significant rise if Chelsea highlited they are doing well and have actually progressed while Manchester has slipped further. This highlights the urgency of United to make a serious change to the way they are playing so they can obtain good result this season.

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Yes, actually Arsenal is a fairly strong club in the Premier League but their strength is sometimes not entirely consistent, that's what made them fail to win the Premier League title in the last 2 seasons and in my opinion it is also caused by the depth of their squad which is not better than Man City and yes Mikel Arteta does need to recruit some quality players to make their appearance more consistent in the future so that they are more free to compete in the title hunt with Man City this season.

Yes you are right about Arsenal and why they don't always win the Premier League trophy. You have explained the reasons in full. I totally agree and indeed Arsenal is strong enough to compete in this competition but only as a complement to strong candidates and in the end other teams will lift the trophy. Arsenal only lacks a sharp striker osimhen might be the right option to solve this problem I hope arteta and the club management can bring this player to the emirates stadium in the next transfer market.

Personal plays very well but their one problem is that they cannot sustain their good performance in every match. If you play well in one match, you play badly in the next match. And that's why they can't win the trophy even if they are in the top 4-6 of the points table in terms of points. Mam city and Liverpool these two teams play well most of the season. And won the championship. man city can be called the king of premier league they play well regularly. Arsenal could also do well if they put more focus into their game

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Quote from: tusandii on November 15, 2024, 01:49:32 AM

Yes, actually Arsenal is a fairly strong club in the Premier League but their strength is sometimes not entirely consistent, that's what made them fail to win the Premier League title in the last 2 seasons and in my opinion it is also caused by the depth of their squad which is not better than Man City and yes Mikel Arteta does need to recruit some quality players to make their appearance more consistent in the future so that they are more free to compete in the title hunt with Man City this season.

Yes you are right about Arsenal and why they don't always win the Premier League trophy. You have explained the reasons in full. I totally agree and indeed Arsenal is strong enough to compete in this competition but only as a complement to strong candidates and in the end other teams will lift the trophy. Arsenal only lacks a sharp striker osimhen might be the right option to solve this problem I hope arteta and the club management can bring this player to the emirates stadium in the next transfer market.

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Honestly, this season it seems like only two teams will compete closely for the championship title, because in terms of points, the team ranked 3rd and ranked 1st are already very far apart and it might take a surprise to be able to stick close. Liverpool is so strong this season, they continue to develop rapidly under Arne slot, it seems like they will make a lot of new history this season. The instability of Manchester City's performance opens up a great opportunity for Liverpool to continue to be consistent in collecting 3 points in order to maintain their position as the leader of the standings for a long time.

The 3rd until 6th ranks have the same points which are far away from the top standing, but we are still on week 11, it's just a quarter step from the finish which means the club still has a chance to beat Liverpool's position. Especially Manchester City, because we don't forget how they played at the beginning of the previous session (2022-2023), they are sometimes slow to heat up at the beginning, and usually, they start to show up after the middle of the season, after winter windows over, and they were bought a new player to filled up weakness position, Then Manchester City starting to show up their class. The Liverpool fans must hope their team does not slip further, because the real champions will be the winner between that time.

In terms of points, the gap is starting to be created at the top, and Liverpool is racing ahead with the highest points. However, considering the number of matches is still very long, so the opportunity is still quite open for several teams. This depends on Liverpool, because usually they also decline when entering the end of the season, such as what happened last season. However, I do not know what will happen this season because they are also handled by a new coach. Competition will continue to be created, because it is possible that unwanted things will happen in matches in the middle of the season. We never know what problems will be faced by teams like Liverpool. Not expecting, but things like this often happen.

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Arsenal as we all know were struggling before Mikel Arteta was appointed as the club manager but since he became the club's manager, he was able to help improve the club's performance and quality to a point that Arsenal are now regarded as one of the best teams in the league but that shouldn't be a reason why the club management would have to take whatever they get from Arteta. Arsenal is a big club remember and if Arteta isn't delivering good results consistently again, then I don't see anything bad in relieving of his job at the club and getting another world class manager.

Arsenal is a strong team. For the last few seasons, Arsenal has been fighting for the title. But in the end, Manchester City has been the champion every season. And I would say that there is only one reason why Arsenal has failed to win the title every season. Arsenal's bench team is not strong. So whenever any player in the squad gets injured, we have seen Arsenal's overall performance become unstable. And this season too, Arsenal has faced the same problem. Arsenal coach Arteta should have added more talented players to their squad. However, Arsenal has no chance of winning the title this season. Arteta now has to try to strengthen his squad.

Yes, actually Arsenal is a fairly strong club in the Premier League but their strength is sometimes not entirely consistent, that's what made them fail to win the Premier League title in the last 2 seasons and in my opinion it is also caused by the depth of their squad which is not better than Man City and yes Mikel Arteta does need to recruit some quality players to make their appearance more consistent in the future so that they are more free to compete in the title hunt with Man City this season.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on November 14, 2024, 03:29:54 PM

I saw this post on the Premier League’s official Instagram page. The caption was ‘so much cab change in a year’. At first I thought it was a roast at Manchester City since they were number 1 last season and now are struggling between games to keep their position at number 2 on the table. But more interesting is that Arsenal didn’t really change, they maintained the same spot. And Manchester United have dropped drastically this year, from 8th on the table last year to 13th on the table. Which other team caught your eye?

Chelsea caught my attention. This was a club that was struggling to survive last season. By this time last season that had only got 15 points from eleven games after spending so much money bringing in new players. Now they are in third position with nineteen points four points better than last season. This shows that the new coach Enzo Maresca is not doing badly after the club spent less funds this season.

Nottingham Forest was not in the Premiership last season but I am fascinated to see a club that was just recently promoted making an instant impact in the top league. The problem with such clubs is that they end up losing steam towards the end of the season and begin to lose games. But if they continue with this form, they might get a European competition ticket.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on November 14, 2024, 02:35:48 PM

I didn’t think Casemiro was a bad player, he was pretty good when he was in Real Madrid. The same goes for other Manchester United players who were presumed to be “bad” by critics and fans. Their recent performances have shown that it wasn’t the players fault but the tactics of the manager. It seems that they were struggling to understand what Erik Ten Hag wanted them to do. Manchester United were better under Ruud van Nistelrooy. I expect them to maintain the same momentum and winning mentality under Amorim.

Who should be blamed then for the game against West Ham United? The big chances created that weren't converted should be blamed on who? EtH was tryna implement his style of play, a possession based football but the tactics showed Casemiro weakness which was lacking pace and causing his team unnecessary bookings game after game. I see most of you don't understand but I'll keep my thing brief.

The double man midfield of Ugarte and Casemiro is nothing different from that of Mc Tominay and Fred which always gets Bruno Fernandes flourishing. This as well was the same way EtH did during his first season and he did well. When it's time for this coach to implement his new system and it becomes difficult for your best players to adapt, you'll see them fighting the manager behind the scenes again. Won't be boggled.

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I saw this post on the Premier League’s official Instagram page. The caption was ‘so much cab change in a year’. At first I thought it was a roast at Manchester City since they were number 1 last season and now are struggling between games to keep their position at number 2 on the table. But more interesting is that Arsenal didn’t really change, they maintained the same spot. And Manchester United have dropped drastically this year, from 8th on the table last year to 13th on the table. Which other team caught your eye?

Liverpool managed to improve their performance this season in the first 11 weeks of the Premier League, while Manchester City declined slightly when they lost 4 points compared to the first 11 matches last season. Aston Villa and Tottenham, who ranked 2nd and 5th last season, actually lost their good form this season in the first 11 matches, of course so far they are in 9th and 10th position in the standings.

This season Manchester City is a little weak due to injuries to several main players, but I believe Pep Guardiola will fix it as soon as possible. It is impossible to let a team lose points from match to match in a row, in fact I am very confident that Manchester City will stop this bad trend in the next match against Tottenham.

Pep Guardiola could still lose 5 matches in a row if they fail to perform well against Tottenham this weekend it is certain that Pep Guardiola will fix in the inconsistent of Manchester City but not Tottenham the highest result Manchester City will get in that game is draw.

Liverpool is still constant in the league as their performance has increased that they hardly lose a game if they continue like this till end of February Liverpool might definitely win the English premier league this season as they are still at the top of the table.

I think this is the worst season of Manchester City under the management of Pep Guardiola as he has lost 4 game in a row definitely he will be under pressure when playing tothenham as to avoid a 5th lose in a row.

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Quote from: ginsan on November 14, 2024, 04:43:03 PM

Honestly, this season it seems like only two teams will compete closely for the championship title, because in terms of points, the team ranked 3rd and ranked 1st are already very far apart and it might take a surprise to be able to stick close. Liverpool is so strong this season, they continue to develop rapidly under Arne slot, it seems like they will make a lot of new history this season. The instability of Manchester City's performance opens up a great opportunity for Liverpool to continue to be consistent in collecting 3 points in order to maintain their position as the leader of the standings for a long time.

The 3rd until 6th ranks have the same points which are far away from the top standing, but we are still on week 11, it's just a quarter step from the finish which means the club still has a chance to beat Liverpool's position. Especially Manchester City, because we don't forget how they played at the beginning of the previous session (2022-2023), they are sometimes slow to heat up at the beginning, and usually, they start to show up after the middle of the season, after winter windows over, and they were bought a new player to filled up weakness position, Then Manchester City starting to show up their class. The Liverpool fans must hope their team does not slip further, because the real champions will be the winner between that time.

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