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Most people are going to bet against a MU that has not Been Able to win for anything in the world and they are or are going to do it against the number 1 in the table , it is very easy to establish that Liverpool will run over them, although there have been cases where the Last one in the table is capable of beating the first one in the table, for me it will not be a very  Complicated match for Liverpool if they play as they have played in the last matches, but if they change strategies and get confident they can go down and end up losing against MU, in the same way these PL matches make Sunday a much more pleasant day.

Manchester United are going through a very difficult time, if I'm not mistaken, these are the most difficult times for the team in their entire history. And Liverpool are in optimal shape and beat all opponents both in the Premier League and in the Champions League, so I think they will have no difficulty beating such a Manchester United. Actually, after the dismissal of ten Hag, Manchester United became even worse, so I don't see any reason why they could beat Liverpool.
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Half of the Premier League season is done, so I thought it would be fun to rank the standout players from the first half for each of the top clubs. Here's how my list turned out: 

- Liverpool: Mohamed Salah 
- Arsenal: Bukayo Saka 
- Chelsea: No debate here, Cole Palmer 
- Man City: A tough call, but I'll go with Bernardo Silva 
- Tottenham: Dejan Kulusevski 

Do you agree with my picks? Who do you think has been the standout player for the top Premier League teams in the first half of the season? 

The first three are players who carried their club. They are now standout players.

About Dejan, he's doing pretty well, but not much. I'd rather pick Maddison. Lastly for City, hard to call Bernardo Silva as standout player coz he's been terrible this season. I see no player has been doing well on City. They're average.
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Half of the Premier League season is done, so I thought it would be fun to rank the standout players from the first half for each of the top clubs. Here's how my list turned out: 

- Liverpool: Mohamed Salah 
- Arsenal: Bukayo Saka 
- Chelsea: No debate here, Cole Palmer 
- Man City: A tough call, but I'll go with Bernardo Silva 
- Tottenham: Dejan Kulusevski 

Do you agree with my picks? Who do you think has been the standout player for the top Premier League teams in the first half of the season? 
I agree with your choice especially Salah because he is the key to Liverpool's success at the beginning of this season. Salah has scored 17 and is now in first place as the temporary top scorer. Haaland has also performed well this season but his quality has decreased a little lately because their team's strength is unstable. These two players will compete this season to get the golden boot and for me Salah could be the winner if he is not hampered by injury in the second half of this season.

Many players in the premier league have shone this season even like Nottingham Forest's performance they can compete at the top and who would have predicted it. For that the second half of the season will be even tighter for other teams in pursuing a better position in the standings. The unlucky team might be Manchester United, they fired Erik to be able to improve the team's pace but in fact it got worse.

The first half of the Premier League season has showcased some outstanding performances. At Chelsea, besides Palmer, I’d highlight Caicedo. His influence in midfield is immense, and he’s a strong contender to challenge Palmer for the team's standout player. For Manchester United, despite their struggles, Rashford impressed with consistent displays in December. Newcastle has been solid, with Gordon, Schär, and Guimarães leading the way. Nottingham Forest is the biggest surprise, sitting third, though it’s hard to pinpoint their standout player yet. Let’s see if they can hold on and finish in the top five by the end of the season.
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In as much as Arsenal has had a decent run of form recently in the Premier League winning all three straight matches in the EPL which has seen them rise on the standings to second position, I don't think they can be called a worthy contender in this year's EPL title race. I doubt they will be able to overtake Liverpool on the standings. I don't think there is any team including Arsenal that can stop Liverpool from winning the EPL title this season.
Arsenal have shown significant improvement in the last few games, but they have always had problems with consistency in maintaining their performance. Almost every season Arsenal always gives competition to Manchester City, but they always fail to be the first to reach the finish line, this is because they very often lose important points when facing relatively weak teams.
It is certainly not an easy task to overtake Liverpool who are at the peak of their performance, Arsenal are just trying to catch up, but it is very difficult to achieve it.
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Since we're playing with half-season summaries, which team, in your opinion, is the biggest disappointment so far this season?
The obvious choice is the two Manchester teams, something snapped in Man City and they moved from the leader position to the 6th place and they've started easing their fans into accepting that the top 4 might not happen this season. But at least they finished half-season with a win, so there's a light in the tunnel. Man United is a whole different story. The club owners didn't learn much from the horrible last season and decided to keep Ten Hag, just to sack him after the first few games. His replacement, Ruben Amorim, is far from successful, at least so far. Man United are currently 14th.

Other teams that might be a little bit of a letdown are Tottenham and Aston Villa, but they're not as big and wealthy as the two mentioned above.
Yes for sure the biggest disappointment for this session is Manchester City. I don't doubt it that club often makes us disappointed when bet it with confidence. they are like a newly promoted club on premier league, always inconsistent, and the strategy can be easily read by opponent. It's the same situation with their neighbor MU, maybe even worse because they are currently trying to far away from degradation zone. This is something unusually when we look that both club always domination on top premier league. I don't know what exactly happen on both club, because they usually easy to rise, but today, they're like to set up to not be able to do anything.

The Premier League's biggest clubs have had the worst performances to date in the Premier League this season. Manchester City's defeat against any team has become a normal thing. A team can perform poorly but we never really thought that their performance would be so bad this season when compared to last season. A poor match or two is normal but they have been consistently underperforming since the start of the season. They are regularly hovering around the seventh and eighth positions in the points table coming into the middle of the season. If their performance doesn't change, they might end the season at 10th position in the points table. They must try their best to return to good performance and ensure that they can stay between 1 and 5 in the points table.
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As for the interest, this is the central game of the round (or can you name a more important one?) - the leader against a major club that is trying to get out of the crisis and for which losing further is simply unacceptable. I don't think it will be a cakewalk for Liverpool, I think the bookies are overvaluing them in this match.

Most people are going to bet against a MU that has not Been Able to win for anything in the world and they are or are going to do it against the number 1 in the table , it is very easy to establish that Liverpool will run over them, although there have been cases where the Last one in the table is capable of beating the first one in the table, for me it will not be a very  Complicated match for Liverpool if they play as they have played in the last matches, but if they change strategies and get confident they can go down and end up losing against MU, in the same way these PL matches make Sunday a much more pleasant day.

Liverpool are certainly more favored to win this match because they are in their best form while Manchester United are the opposite, indeed in football it is sometimes difficult to predict because clubs like Man United can sometimes also provide balanced resistance when playing against fellow top clubs and can provide surprises but I am not sure Man United can beat Liverpool especially this match will be held at Liverpool's home ground which of course Liverpool will be more confident in appearing in that match.
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As for the interest, this is the central game of the round (or can you name a more important one?) - the leader against a major club that is trying to get out of the crisis and for which losing further is simply unacceptable. I don't think it will be a cakewalk for Liverpool, I think the bookies are overvaluing them in this match.

Most people are going to bet against a MU that has not Been Able to win for anything in the world and they are or are going to do it against the number 1 in the table , it is very easy to establish that Liverpool will run over them, although there have been cases where the Last one in the table is capable of beating the first one in the table, for me it will not be a very  Complicated match for Liverpool if they play as they have played in the last matches, but if they change strategies and get confident they can go down and end up losing against MU, in the same way these PL matches make Sunday a much more pleasant day.
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Since we're playing with half-season summaries, which team, in your opinion, is the biggest disappointment so far this season?
The obvious choice is the two Manchester teams, something snapped in Man City and they moved from the leader position to the 6th place and they've started easing their fans into accepting that the top 4 might not happen this season. But at least they finished half-season with a win, so there's a light in the tunnel. Man United is a whole different story. The club owners didn't learn much from the horrible last season and decided to keep Ten Hag, just to sack him after the first few games. His replacement, Ruben Amorim, is far from successful, at least so far. Man United are currently 14th.

Other teams that might be a little bit of a letdown are Tottenham and Aston Villa, but they're not as big and wealthy as the two mentioned above.
Yes for sure the biggest disappointment for this session is Manchester City. I don't doubt it that club often makes us disappointed when bet it with confidence. they are like a newly promoted club on premier league, always inconsistent, and the strategy can be easily read by opponent. It's the same situation with their neighbor MU, maybe even worse because they are currently trying to far away from degradation zone. This is something unusually when we look that both club always domination on top premier league. I don't know what exactly happen on both club, because they usually easy to rise, but today, they're like to set up to not be able to do anything.
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Arsenal's match today is very important to win and seize the runner-up position which is currently occupied by Nottingham Forest who has collected 1 point more, Arsenal must win to continue to be close to Liverpool this is Arsenal's opportunity because Chelsea has lost points in 2 matches so he must make the most of it.
I think many are favoring Arsenal in this match to bet their money including myself.

You bet on under 3.5 goals?
I think it is very risky because this is a tough match because Arsenal really needs a win as you said but on the other hand Brentford also has a good match at home so it is possible for many goals to be scored in this match.
If it is not possible I think betting on Arsenal to win only with odds @1.42 is quite feasible because the winning percentage is quite large.
Under 3.5 for the score created by Arsenal only so I think it's not too risky because the betting odds are also not too big and sure enough Arsenal won by scoring 3 goals in the match and indeed my bet almost lost if Arsenal added 1 more goal, Arsenal is now back right below Liverpool in the runner-up position Arsenal must maintain its consistency in order to maintain that position until the end, I don't think Arsenal will can overtake Liverpool because they currently have a 6 point difference.

It was a dominate display from Arsenal in their recent encounter with Brentford in the Premier League. But I don't think even with such performance that they can be able to cause an upset to Liverpool in their quest to lift this season's English premier League trophy. Liverpool has lost just once in the Premier League this season and their performance this season has been consistent.
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Since we're playing with half-season summaries, which team, in your opinion, is the biggest disappointment so far this season?
The obvious choice is the two Manchester teams, something snapped in Man City and they moved from the leader position to the 6th place and they've started easing their fans into accepting that the top 4 might not happen this season. But at least they finished half-season with a win, so there's a light in the tunnel. Man United is a whole different story. The club owners didn't learn much from the horrible last season and decided to keep Ten Hag, just to sack him after the first few games. His replacement, Ruben Amorim, is far from successful, at least so far. Man United are currently 14th.

Other teams that might be a little bit of a letdown are Tottenham and Aston Villa, but they're not as big and wealthy as the two mentioned above.

Both Manchester have indeed performed very disappointingly in the first half of this season. City lost their place at the top of the standings because the team was unable to maintain their consistency. Which should have continued to compete at the top of the standings with Liverpool, Man City actually dropped from the top of the standings by itself, and this is very disappointing, experienced coach, Pep Guardiola was unable to solve the problems in his team in a short time. and instead the team stumbled on financial problems Fair play.

and so is man united who are not only inconsistent on the field, but the team until the middle of this season has not been able to enter the top 10 of the standings, currently their position is slumped in 14th position. In fact, this is the worst season ever experienced by man united, where the team suffered 6 defeats in one month. And it seems that the disappointment given by man united is not only in the middle of this season, but in every season, because after SAF left, since then man united has not been able to dominate the English league.

And finally, I am quite disappointed with Chelsea's performance lately, where the team had to be pushed back to 4th position after some time previously unexpectedly managed to shift Nottingham Forest and Arsenal, which made Chelsea sit in second place in the standings.
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Since we're playing with half-season summaries, which team, in your opinion, is the biggest disappointment so far this season?
The obvious choice is the two Manchester teams, something snapped in Man City and they moved from the leader position to the 6th place and they've started easing their fans into accepting that the top 4 might not happen this season. But at least they finished half-season with a win, so there's a light in the tunnel. Man United is a whole different story. The club owners didn't learn much from the horrible last season and decided to keep Ten Hag, just to sack him after the first few games. His replacement, Ruben Amorim, is far from successful, at least so far. Man United are currently 14th.

Other teams that might be a little bit of a letdown are Tottenham and Aston Villa, but they're not as big and wealthy as the two mentioned above.

Man City for sure is the biggest dissapointment of the season. From such a good team and winning team to going to a team that will struggle to get europe. Man Utd is bad for couple of seasons so nothing new there. But Nottingham Forest is something fresh that we didnt see in a long time and to see them fighting for the title is really wierd.
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Half of the Premier League season is done, so I thought it would be fun to rank the standout players from the first half for each of the top clubs. Here's how my list turned out:  

- Liverpool: Mohamed Salah  
- Arsenal: Bukayo Saka  
- Chelsea: No debate here, Cole Palmer  
- Man City: A tough call, but I'll go with Bernardo Silva  
- Tottenham: Dejan Kulusevski  

Do you agree with my picks? Who do you think has been the standout player for the top Premier League teams in the first half of the season?  

I agree with most of your choices. Salah, Palmer, Saka, all solid choices.

For Manchester City, I would say Halaand, who has scored 14 league goals and 5 Champions League goals in the whole season, although he has missed a lot of goal positions recently. He is the team's top scorer and has single-handedly brought 3 points in many games.

For Tottenham, I would say Solanke. 6 goals and 3 assists in the league, 2 goals and 2 assists in the Europa League, 2 goals in the League Cup. After Harry Kane left, it wasn't easy to find a striker like Kane. Maybe Solanke is a bit overshadowed because of the transfer fee but I think he's performing well in his first year. He will be much better.

If I have to add a player from Manchester United to the list, I really can't find anyone. Bruno Fernandes stands out with his stats but he has seen 3 red cards this year. He needs to control his temper. In fact, the fact that no United player stands out explains their current bad situation. They definitely need a top quality striker.
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Since we're playing with half-season summaries, which team, in your opinion, is the biggest disappointment so far this season?
The obvious choice is the two Manchester teams, something snapped in Man City and they moved from the leader position to the 6th place and they've started easing their fans into accepting that the top 4 might not happen this season. But at least they finished half-season with a win, so there's a light in the tunnel. Man United is a whole different story. The club owners didn't learn much from the horrible last season and decided to keep Ten Hag, just to sack him after the first few games. His replacement, Ruben Amorim, is far from successful, at least so far. Man United are currently 14th.

Other teams that might be a little bit of a letdown are Tottenham and Aston Villa, but they're not as big and wealthy as the two mentioned above.
Without thinking twice, Manchester United seems to be the most disappointing team so far. The problem of Manchester United started when they refused to sack their former coach just few matches after the season started. They allowed him to waste  the initial opportunities which would have been used to place Manchester United in their good position immediately the season started.

Even under the new coach of Manchester United, there are still suffering and yet there is no sign that the future will be better. The new Manchester United coach cannot stop experimenting his football strategies. Before we realize what is wrong, Manchester United could be battling to survive relegation.
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Since we're playing with half-season summaries, which team, in your opinion, is the biggest disappointment so far this season?
The obvious choice is the two Manchester teams, something snapped in Man City and they moved from the leader position to the 6th place and they've started easing their fans into accepting that the top 4 might not happen this season. But at least they finished half-season with a win, so there's a light in the tunnel. Man United is a whole different story. The club owners didn't learn much from the horrible last season and decided to keep Ten Hag, just to sack him after the first few games. His replacement, Ruben Amorim, is far from successful, at least so far. Man United are currently 14th.

Other teams that might be a little bit of a letdown are Tottenham and Aston Villa, but they're not as big and wealthy as the two mentioned above.
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Half of the Premier League season is done, so I thought it would be fun to rank the standout players from the first half for each of the top clubs. Here's how my list turned out: 

- Liverpool: Mohamed Salah 
- Arsenal: Bukayo Saka 
- Chelsea: No debate here, Cole Palmer 
- Man City: A tough call, but I'll go with Bernardo Silva 
- Tottenham: Dejan Kulusevski 

Do you agree with my picks? Who do you think has been the standout player for the top Premier League teams in the first half of the season? 
I agree with your choice especially Salah because he is the key to Liverpool's success at the beginning of this season. Salah has scored 17 and is now in first place as the temporary top scorer. Haaland has also performed well this season but his quality has decreased a little lately because their team's strength is unstable. These two players will compete this season to get the golden boot and for me Salah could be the winner if he is not hampered by injury in the second half of this season.

Many players in the premier league have shone this season even like Nottingham Forest's performance they can compete at the top and who would have predicted it. For that the second half of the season will be even tighter for other teams in pursuing a better position in the standings. The unlucky team might be Manchester United, they fired Erik to be able to improve the team's pace but in fact it got worse.
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Arsenal are second in the table with 39 points from 19 games after winning their third consecutive match and this will have a positive impact on their upcoming matches. Coach Arteta is optimistic that his team will continue to fight to win the next matches and have the possibility of overtaking Liverpool. Arsenal have been showing their great performance after beating Brentford 3-1 in yesterday's match and are only 6 points behind Liverpool. Gabriel Jesus scored a goal and he showed his team's great performance. Gabriel Martinelli and Mikel Marinor also managed to score a goal after the break. Despite the team's key players not being able to take the field due to the virus infection, they still gave the fans a good game. Forward Kai Havertz was unable to play due to illness and midfielder Declan Rice came on in the second half with a concussion. However, the days ahead are going to be challenging for Liverpool if Arsenal play to their potential.
In as much as Arsenal has had a decent run of form recently in the Premier League winning all three straight matches in the EPL which has seen them rise on the standings to second position, I don't think they can be called a worthy contender in this year's EPL title race. I doubt they will be able to overtake Liverpool on the standings. I don't think there is any team including Arsenal that can stop Liverpool from winning the EPL title this season.
6 points difference isn't much of a gap but the chances of closing up on Liverpool this season seems impossible. Liverpool has an outstanding match which should be played on Sunday and that automatically should keep them 9 points ahead of Arsenal. Right now Arsenal should just struggle to finish second and try harder next season.

Brentford's win was a necessity for Arsenal and they did utilise the opportunity to keep their hope alive but there motivation strong enough to change the fact that Liverpool remains unstoppable this season as they keep the pace for other clubs to follow.
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Arsenal's match today is very important to win and seize the runner-up position which is currently occupied by Nottingham Forest who has collected 1 point more, Arsenal must win to continue to be close to Liverpool this is Arsenal's opportunity because Chelsea has lost points in 2 matches so he must make the most of it.
I think many are favoring Arsenal in this match to bet their money including myself.

Arsenal have a very good chance of winning the game and improving their position in the Premier League table at the moment, but even so, against Brentford it will not be easy because however Arsenal often struggle to win every time they meet, I think the match will be an opportunity for Arsenal to continue to stick tightly to Liverpool as a title contender after Chelsea also lost points in other match, playing at home, of course, will give them better motivation to win the match later, especially with the support of the fans and also high confidence after the previous victory can be an support factor for Arsenal in the match.
Arsenal football team won the last match against Brentford football team. That was one handed match in which Arsenal team was dominant and all players of that team looked in good body language and they did back to back goals in this match.  Mbeumo did first goal of the match and he did goal at 13 minutes of the match and he gave good start to his team but after his goal,no player from his team could goal in the rest of time and Players were dominant because their possession was outclass and they always tried to do more goals in which they became successful in the end of game.Jesus did second goal of the match and he did goal at 29 minutes of the match and after his goal , score of both teams was equal and that was 1-1 and after his goal Merino did next goal and he did goal at 50 minutes and team Arsenal won the match easily by high margin.
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Arsenal are second in the table with 39 points from 19 games after winning their third consecutive match and this will have a positive impact on their upcoming matches. Coach Arteta is optimistic that his team will continue to fight to win the next matches and have the possibility of overtaking Liverpool. Arsenal have been showing their great performance after beating Brentford 3-1 in yesterday's match and are only 6 points behind Liverpool. Gabriel Jesus scored a goal and he showed his team's great performance. Gabriel Martinelli and Mikel Marinor also managed to score a goal after the break. Despite the team's key players not being able to take the field due to the virus infection, they still gave the fans a good game. Forward Kai Havertz was unable to play due to illness and midfielder Declan Rice came on in the second half with a concussion. However, the days ahead are going to be challenging for Liverpool if Arsenal play to their potential.
In as much as Arsenal has had a decent run of form recently in the Premier League winning all three straight matches in the EPL which has seen them rise on the standings to second position, I don't think they can be called a worthy contender in this year's EPL title race. I doubt they will be able to overtake Liverpool on the standings. I don't think there is any team including Arsenal that can stop Liverpool from winning the EPL title this season.
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I never expected Manchester City's performance to drop this season, Manchester City's poor performance came as a shock. Manchester City is currently in 6th position, they are finding it difficult to win most of their matches. They were able to break their losing streak in their last match against Leicester City. Let’s just hope Manchester City will bounce back, but with Manchester City currently in this position, no matter how hard Manchester City plays, I don’t think they will be able to win the premier league title this season. Liverpool, which is currently in 1st position, won’t really be dropping points from the way Liverpool is playing.
No one expected Man City will perform very badly in the last few matches. Man City always showed great performance under Guardiola's management in the past seasons. The current performance surely makes a lot of people to feel worried with the future of Man City. Since they were defeated by Tottenham in EFL Cup in October 31, they are always difficult to perform consistently. I think there should be an internal problem with Man City, it is not only about the injury factor.

I think the same as you. Man City seems very hard to win the EPL title this season. Liverpool looks very strong and they can perform consistently since the early of this season. It seems only Arsenal which can challenge Liverpool, but they have quite a lot point gap. Unfortunately, Arsenal is also declining their performance during this season.


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I saw him saying he won community shield the other week, yes? Lol. Maybe he has won a trophy and not all the arsenal fans are aware of that victory.

I don't think so as much as I want to see them glorious at the end of the season,  they can't do it with a squad that's not consistent and at the same time not with a squad where they don't have a quality striker and also a consistent Saka. The defenders has done their roles quite well, they just need to do better in the year 2025. They'll be hoping United holds Liverpool on Sunday and that's all I want to see happening.

Arsenal under Arteta had lifted two or more trophies if I can remember they won the FA cup in his first season or second that Arteta took over and they went on to play the community shield and they won, the win was even against Manchester city if I could remember perfectly so his claim of halving a trophy does stands, but the trophies aren’t something that the arsenal fans want rather than the main league.

Arsenal seriously needs to stay consistent before they can think of winning the league. Personally I had more hope that this would be arsenal season as it was most predicted that Manchester city wouldn’t be doing a fifth in a row but Arsenal lack of consistency actually has made it almost impossible for them to win it and if they don’t this season will be a huge waste of opportunity for them
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