Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 57. (Read 65723 times)

Harry Kane was criticising some of the players who were absent from these two important games against Greece and the Republic of Ireland. He said that players should know that national duties supersede club loyalty. I am not comfortable with the captain's view because most of these players who pulled out of these international games have genuine reasons for that. He shouldn't expect injured players to risk their health for England games. This might be an indication that there might be a crack in the team that coach Lee Carsley is not properly handling. We are expecting to see how Thomas Tuchel will handle the team when he takes over in January.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c1jr97r6e7jo

I will not rush to say Ruben Amorim is a coach who can make Manchester United better or not. because we have not seen how the performance he will present with Manchester United, besides that it takes several matches to see whether he will be able to bring Manchester United better or not. Many coaches were initially good but over time they could not be consistent, there are also coaches who were initially not so good but over time they got better. What I hope is that Manchester United do not rush to make a decision when at the beginning Amorim could not perform well.

This International Break, many England National Team players are absent due to special reasons such as minor injuries and so on. There are 8 players absent, namely Arnold, Levi, Foden, Grealish, Palmer, Aaron Ramsdale, Declan Rice, and Bukayo Saka as reported by Fabrizio, but this makes sense because the Nations League is not very interesting and they are more focused on maintaining their health so they can strengthen their respective clubs. Moreover, with the increasingly tight match schedule, the club does not want to take the risk of losing important players.

In my opinion it is not only the England National Team players who will withdraw from the Nations League match. German, Spanish, and Italian National Teams will also most likely take the same steps to avoid injury.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1856050390799712320

I still can't wrap my head around why they didn't buy a striker last year, or two years ago. I'm pretty sure even wannabe pundits know they want or need to buy one since months ago[1]. One pundit that I followed suggested that they didn't find a good option hence why they stuck with Havertz and other wingers, but surely multiple windows should be more than enough to find a second/third alternative. At the very least it will give them another option to attack the opponents to reduce their reliance on Saka, Odegard, and so on. CMIIW.

IIRC their underlying numbers are still good. The defence is definitely weaker but they should've scored more goals if the attackers had taken their chance. I mean having nearly 3 xG every match but scoring 1 goal shows there's trouble with their finishing.

[1] https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2023-2024/arsenal-draw-up-striker-shortlist-as-chelsea-target-ivan-toney-summer-transfer-paper-round_sto10052614/story.shtml

Rodri is one of the mainstays of Manchester City's midfield but this player will not be able to play the entire season for Manchester City. If these important players cannot play for the team, then how will the team's condition improve? Those are the reasons for those looking for reasons behind Manchester City's current poor performance. If the important players of the team are not performing well and if the midfield position of the team is weak then the team performance of that team is not supposed to be good. Manchester City may still be doing well with their strength in other positions but if there were any other club in place of Manchester City they would have performed worse than Manchester City.

Let me say I disagree with you on something first the Arsenal board do not casually buy players just like the way other managers in the clubs gets to biy every player that they can get their hands off, In fact Arteta is the most trusted manager that edu the director and the Arsenal hierarchy have ever believed. But still the availability of funds like Manchester city has been a problem for Arteta.

Arsenal truly did needed a striker for them to actually be able to compete the use of Kai was actually not it but saying that arsenal doesn’t need Mikel merino Is not it. Arsenal needs a midfielder then to actually pattern Rice because of the way that the other midfielders were always out injured

Yeah, I think if the target only finishes in the Champions League zone, it should be no problem for Arsenal because Arteta did it during the session. I don't know why he should leave Arsenal even he did a great job throughout his career. What the problem arsenal now is there isn't have pure striker to conversion assist from a great their midfielder. That problem easy to complete if they are active on winter windows transfer next. If Arsenal indeed to increase their target to be champion on premier league, they should be recruit pure striker like Viktor Gyokeres, maybe a bit impossible, but if they make the offer a lot of money, I will bet Sporting will think it again to do not taking it off.

In as much as I will consider the meeting of Mikel Arteta and the Arsenal owners as important and vital, I do not believe that giving Arteta a standard striker will be an assurance to win the English Premier League this season. I could remember last season and even season before last that Arsenal had all their players in form and willing to play, but they did not win the traffic because of Arteta's mismanagement of the players. Yes, Arteta misused or over used some key players which made them develop fatigue in the ending time of the league, when they were supposed to be more dedicated.
I am not seeing this year as Guardiola's year and also not seeing it as Arteta's year. Maybe Arne Slot can have it if he works hard for it.

The outcome will just be the release of more funds to the coach to bring in new players to the club. But I strongly doubt there is any magic Arteta will do then that will make them win the league. Although nothing is impossible but Arsenal have shown great weakness this season than last season when we expected them to win the league at some point. Therefore, I'm not expecting much from them beyond qualifying for the champions league next season which is what they do with ease most of the years. I feel it will be easier for Chelsea to win the league than Arsenal.

Considering the of results of Arsenal in their recent games, I think this is a good development at the club as it'll help the manager and the club management to come to agreeable terms on which players that should be signed to the club when the January transfer window is opened. Arsenal at the moment doesn't have a good striker can help the club convert many of their chances as both Gabriel Jesus and Kai Havertz have not been prolific this season and if they can get a sharp striker by January, it'll help improve the performance of the club I think

One shouldn't forget that in what condition Arsenal were before Arteta took over. Arteta is the one who made Arsenal a team which are fighting for the championship every year. Therefore sending Arteta from the team would be the biggest mistake Arsenal can do. Arsenal's target should be to finish the league in top 4 and be successful in the Champions League this season.

The conditions are still the same as last season where when they lost the playmaker in midfield and a good attack organiser then Manchester City is just like a club that can only create dominance without being accompanied by goals that make their slick performance while on the field not accompanied by maximum results.

Pep still can't fix this even though they have Kovavic as another option but in the end he is unable to back up KDB and Rodri at the same time.
This kind of condition is always repeated for Manchester City and not only this season but in the last 2 seasons they have also always received the same thing so I think it's not too strange when Manchester City are quite stuck and even have to lose in their last few matches.

No matter how strong Pep is, no matter how good they are in 90 minutes but in the end Manchester City also has problems that cannot be fully resolved and this is a task that Pep still has to anticipate so that this kind of performance does not occur when there is a problem such as injuries suffered by 2 important players in midfield.

Arteta has had the opportunity to sign players that can help him compete for the title, but instead, he went for players that are not too necessary. When people say Pep is not a good manager because he spent a lot of money on players, I laugh because other managers have opportunities to sign players to strengthen their squads but they focused on just signing good players.

Arsenal finished last season in second position, narrowly missing out on the league, but couldn't figure out why he lost the title at the later stage of the competition.
He already had Rice, Jorginho and Partey so Merino was not necessary. What he needed was a world-class goal scorer as a top striker. He also needed a creative central midfielder who could replace Odergard and also play with Odergaard so they could have more creativity on the field but he decided to buy a CB, now he's lining up with 4 CBs and 3 DMs, of course, his team's performance will drop.

Arsenal must sell Gabriel Jesus, he has not shown good development in his performance. Of course, one of the strong weaknesses is the front line because they do not have a goal-hungry striker. It will indeed have a bad impact if they fail to buy players in the January transfer market because other teams are very strong at this time, such as Liverpool. Losing the title could be quite painful for Arsenal because their squad is almost perfect and only needs a little overhaul in the upcoming transfer market.

With the poor rally lately, of course, fans are starting to feel anxious because Arsenal is 9 points behind Liverpool who are currently leading the standings. But on the other hand, Chelsea seems to have found their best form this season because up to the 11th match they played, Chelsea was able to achieve more satisfying results by ranking 3rd in the standings. The competition will be even tighter when the big teams start to lose control of their good performance.

Every team? I don't think so. There are only few teams that really develop well. However, Chelsea and Nottm Forest that attract the most attention. These teams are in the top 5 now, they developed quite significant. Chelsea was in 6th place, Nottm Forest was almost in the relegation zone (17th place). If they can survive until the end of the season, it will be a big surprise this season.

By the way, there are also the teams which dropped their performance very much. Man United, Tottenham, and Aston Villa are some teams which are experiencing the worse season. It seems these teams having serious problems, so they can't perform as expected. Man United has tried to find out the solution, they hire a new coach. Meanwhile Tottenham and Aston Villa seems no response until now.

Yep. Surprisingly, Man City didn't perform in their best form anymore. Liverpool is leading with 5 points. If Man City can't improve their performance, surely Liverpool will win the EPL title this season.

Manchester City's performance has dropped this season, but the season is still early, and I am sure Pep Guardiola will do everything possible to improve the club's performance. Manchester City can’t just continue playing like this. Liverpool is already ahead of Manchester City with five points, but they shouldn’t relax, we know Manchester City to be a dangerous club, and any slight mistake from Liverpool, and Manchester City might end up taking over the position from Liverpool. We all saw what Manchester City did to Arsenal in the last two seasons, so I can’t really conclude on the team that’s going to be winning the league because it’s still early.

Yes, I agree with that, especially in the sense that this season is probably the first time that Arsenal will be worse than the last under Arteta. We have seen consistent progress so far and it would be stupid to fire a manager in his first problematic season. It is now obvious and proven that Arteta can bring confident progress to the team, but the fact that he has reached his ceiling is just an assumption.

It was a huge win for Brighton against Manchester City, if I had been told that Manchester City would lose the game after scoring one goal in the first half, I would have disagreed because Brighton cannot compete with Manchester City as we believe, but as we can clearly see, Manchester City has become a team that any team could defeat this season. Brighton scored two goals in the space of five minutes, while Man City only scored one goal in the first half, through Haaland. Manchester City needs improvements at each position, including a good finisher and a defense that can stop opponents from scoring. Liverpool is above them by five points after defeating Aston Villa.


I suspect that the Manchester United players intentionally fired Ten Hag since they seemed to be tired of him as manager as well. Ruud Van Nistelrooy used the same players that had been used and won the four games. They've scored 11 goals in the previous four games in all competitions. They played perfectly against Leicester City; even Casemiro was able to defend. Manchester United we have been waiting a long time to see, and I think they are back to winning ways. But before the season ends, let's see how amazing Rúben Amorim can make this team.

Rodri is a key player for Manchester City, and if they miss him, he will definitely affect them in the competition game, now that Manchester City are facing difficulties in the league and Champions League this season, I am sure if they are Rodri, the pressure won't be much like this, and I am thinking that Manchester City can't win the Premier League this season with the performance they are playing now in the league, Guadiola need to have some strong midfielders that will Arsenal has already fucked up already they don't have any chance to top the league anymore, they should just focus on the ucl and see what they can do. but if is to win the premier league, I don't think that will be possible for them anymore. Because even Liverpool are losing some games Manchester City are in there back and they won't let Arsenal to overtake them in the league, Arteta can just do is best next season and buy some new players to the team so that he can get the chance to win the league title. He as lost is opportunity already last season.

The point is, if there are no purchases in January, don't dream that Arsenal can compete for the EPL trophy, even the league cup will not be won this season. Because it is very unfortunate that Arsenal's performance is as good as anything but if there is no deadly bomber in the front line then it will be useless. If Aubameyang was still at Arsenal, maybe Arsenal would have scored many goals with Arsenal's current game. So the Arsenal owner's steps to overhaul the squad in the transfer market later must be done by buying a goal-hungry striker, especially since the good news is that Odegaard has recovered from injury. But don't rely on Odegaard either, because if he is injured again there is no equivalent replacement, so besides buying a striker Arsenal must also buy or find other talents who can be in the midfield that controls the attack.

Liverpool this season is naturally the favorite to win, especially since they are currently very solid at the top of the standings, five points ahead of Man City and nine points ahead of Chelsea and Arsenal. Liverpool's current success is because Slot is good at playing Liverpool's balance rhythm. Not as explosive as the Klopp era, the intensity fluctuates but is stable, balanced by strengthening the defense and being able to maintain the stamina of the players so that they are not easily injured with a busy schedule.