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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 10, 2024, 03:32:17 PM

I started to feel like Manchester City will get away with this case related to 100+ breaches. Tongue

Because I have seen some things related to their already starting to win something against the PL.

A thing I have heard about commercial deals among the PL clubs. I mean if Manchester City is not at guilt about those breaches then okay. Of course I would love to see the law working for the rightful side. Anyway, we'll see.

If they have really done it then I can't even imagine how big punishment they will get. Some people say it might even cause them to lose many of their PL titles until now.

It's such a classic narrative. It's pretty much City winning against the league like in the picture. It'll be the same as when we beat PL in a legal challenge over the inflated sponsor deals linked to us. The scenario is pretty much the same as it.

And i think some clubs are just getting upset 'cause they haven't an owner to throw money at a problem. I can only imagine if we beat the 115, win the league again. It's gonna be very painful to the haters. Cool

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Quote from: Sim_card on October 10, 2024, 09:41:51 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on October 09, 2024, 07:14:43 PM

Maybe the official compared with another club which have the same problem with coach. Yes, I agree to management big club like MU is not instant, the coach need much time to managed team to be solid. If they fired ten haq today, and recruit new coach that make teams will start again from the beginning and the possibility a new coach will make a new mistake then the official will repeat again to fired a new coach and recruit a new coach again, so on. Everyone knows finding a good coach is hard nowadays because they already have jobs and feel at home at their club, I think the official was make the right decision to extend it, but ten hag don't be fooled being noticed, because he have hard work and must make the team should be better from today.

How much time does Ten Hag needs to bring the club performance to solid when he has spent more than two years in the club as a head coach. I think that there is a lot going on in Manchester United that we don't know with Ten Hag and the management, if not why not get his ass kicked after lots of poor performance. Maybe the management is still having big hope on Ten Hag that will will bring home another trophy this again, so that Ten Hag can reassess himself and conclude with 3 years, 3 trophies to intimidate the fans and management in order for contract extension Grin

. But I guess that will not happen.

I don't know, maybe 10 years? Grin

Maybe The official still considering him because has presented 2 trophies for MU Carabao (2022/2023) dan FA cup (2023/2024). Ten Hag always said his achievement when pressed by reporters. He always denied that coaching a big team like MU was not easy. so it takes more time to make the team more solid. And, I think the official has been affected his rebuttal, yes we know how a coach like Jose Mourinho always said his achievements when got pressure by reporter, and Ten hag do the same thing like his senior, but I think he could be fired on the next year if always got a bad result. he couldn't deny it anymore this time.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 10, 2024, 06:49:38 PM

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 09, 2024, 06:43:16 PM

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
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Until Eric Ten Hag over confidence is been brought to an abrupt end, he will never stop having that big hope on himself that he’s going to do better and make the team great. He keeps repeating the same thing and the management are over looking everything and still giving him the mandate to carry on the affairs of the team.

Bad to see this again.
In fact, Man United has several players who actually have good skills. but were not able to be stimulated by ten Hag and only became something really ridiculous. As we see several ex-United players who are in fact able to be freer and their performance has increased after being taken by other clubs. names like: Greenwood, Sancho, Fred, and several others too.

Aside from the Premier League,
now, Haaland, again and again, make his history.

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on October 10, 2024, 12:02:17 PM

Quote from: TelolettOm on October 09, 2024, 06:43:16 PM

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
..........

Until Eric Ten Hag over confidence is been brought to an abrupt end, he will never stop having that big hope on himself that he’s going to do better and make the team great. He keeps repeating the same thing and the management are over looking everything and still giving him the mandate to carry on the affairs of the team.

Bad to see this again.
In fact, Man United has several players who actually have good skills. but were not able to be stimulated by ten Hag and only became something really ridiculous. As we see several ex-United players who are in fact able to be freer and their performance has increased after being taken by other clubs. names like: Greenwood, Sancho, Fred, and several others too.

Aside from the Premier League,
now, Haaland, again and again, make his history.

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Quote from: Issa56 on October 10, 2024, 03:58:59 PM

Quote from: len01 on October 09, 2024, 10:26:53 PM

I admit that Ten Hag has not given a positive impact in the last 3 seasons but sometimes a coach really needs time to be able to improve the team's performance and bring Man United to a higher level.

Ten Hag's first season was not really a bad one for him, because Manchester United were able to qualify for the Champions League that season, but after the season in which he joined, Manchester United's performance has been so poor, and their performance is getting worse. I don’t really understand what you mean by he should be given more time, because I know Ten Hag has been given enough time, but there is no improvement in Manchester United's performance.

Ten Hag was given money to sign some players during the last transfer window, but I just feel like Ten Hag doesn’t just know the players he wants, he doesn’t have confidence in his signing because he doesn’t even give most of the players he signed the opportunity to play well in matches. He signed players, but I just feel like he doesn’t even know the players that he needs.

He's even signed a few players he's worked with before, but apparently at MU he still can't work with them because I don't see most of them on the pitch. I don't know who started the rumours that he might be sacked after the Aston Villa match, but he is very confident that he won't be sacked, I mean he literally knows it. Sooner or later it will lead to MU hanging around in the second half of the standings. That hasn't happened so far because somehow MU has top class players who can win sometimes, even despite Ten Hag's delusional leadership

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 09, 2024, 06:43:16 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on October 07, 2024, 01:40:49 PM

Of course this is not an improvement although in the end this result still seems better than not getting any points at all but it is definitely not an improvement as they are still the same.

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
and indeed if the standard is like this, it will be difficult for Man United to really be able to advance and develop again. They need more than just that, more than that. Or they will just be at that level, maybe even much worse.

It's not too strange to see some statements from club management as they always give Ten Hag more time no matter how bad the results are Cheesy

It's just that with the pressure on and Ten Hag still being given more time then as you say that in the end Mancehster United will not be able to develop further so let alone approaching their golden era in the last decade, at the moment they even look very bad because they are forced to become an ordinary club especially when in a position in the standings.
But when the decision is made, although there will certainly be a lot of people who are not too satisfied with the decision, Ten Hag will still be at Mancehster United as coach and we just have to continue to see how they always struggle every season.

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Quote from: len01 on October 09, 2024, 10:26:53 PM

I admit that Ten Hag has not given a positive impact in the last 3 seasons but sometimes a coach really needs time to be able to improve the team's performance and bring Man United to a higher level.

Ten Hag's first season was not really a bad one for him, because Manchester United were able to qualify for the Champions League that season, but after the season in which he joined, Manchester United's performance has been so poor, and their performance is getting worse. I don’t really understand what you mean by he should be given more time, because I know Ten Hag has been given enough time, but there is no improvement in Manchester United's performance.

Ten Hag was given money to sign some players during the last transfer window, but I just feel like Ten Hag doesn’t just know the players he wants, he doesn’t have confidence in his signing because he doesn’t even give most of the players he signed the opportunity to play well in matches. He signed players, but I just feel like he doesn’t even know the players that he needs.

Quote from: len01 on October 09, 2024, 10:26:53 PM

If it is still maintained, there must be something that we cannot know behind all these problems. What is certain is that we just have to see until January.

From the way things are going, I just have the feeling that Manchester United management is going to keep Ten Hag because they are not even saying anything about his replacement. Let’s just keep on watching and see what the management will do.

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I started to feel like Manchester City will get away with this case related to 100+ breaches. Tongue

Because I have seen some things related to their already starting to win something against the PL.

A thing I have heard about commercial deals among the PL clubs. I mean if Manchester City is not at guilt about those breaches then okay. Of course I would love to see the law working for the rightful side. Anyway, we'll see.

If they have really done it then I can't even imagine how big punishment they will get. Some people say it might even cause them to lose many of their PL titles until now.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 10, 2024, 12:44:07 PM

I really don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag on the team, I don't find any logical reasons, however, those who defend Ten Hag, I don't know why they do it, I understand his family and some of his friends, but the rest who are MU fans should do their part to ensure that MU wins and has good results. At this stage in life, a team should not be the victim of a coach who is in 13th place and says that they are the best team that has improved the most in the PL , that is something that doesn't make sense, I still don't understand what they are defending him for.

The current management are either blinded by the two trophies Ten Hag has won or are just scared of getting a new coach, since they know that will cost them more, from the fact that some these players will be nothing to no use to the coach whereas Ten Hag requested for the likes of them.

Manchester United fans where ones happy especially last season when they won the FA Cup but they all failed to see that there haven't been much growth in their performance in the Epl and Uefa fixtures. This seems to be like the worst Manchester United coach performance in Uefa matches.
Though I think some fans still shows their support of him still remaining coach, that rather the players ought to be blame, seems like they are tired of changing coaches and nothing has relatively changed with same players.

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Quote from: Richbased on October 10, 2024, 10:27:50 AM

Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 09, 2024, 08:59:30 AM

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Helping the club win two trophies is not a yardstick that ETH should continue with his duty for Manchester united. Already i saw the ''handwriting on the wall'' that United may not sack him anytime soon because when the club was seriously underperforming last season the club didn't see any reasons to sack him and after he won the F.A cup they still granted him the privilege to continue with his job so am not even surprised that they granted him a one year extension which means that whether the team improves or not he will still continue till the end of one 2026. It's the club's decision so they should deal with any outcome that surfaces later on because giving ETH another 2 years to be in-charge of the club may not really end well but let's watch and see how it goes.

The decision to keep Ten Hag after what happened to Manchester United at the moment will certainly spark a lot of controversy among fans, I think what Manchester United are doing is very strange and difficult to accept if they only use the two minor trophies as an excuse to keep Ten Hag until his contract expires, with the conditions seen in Manchester at the moment may gradually lose their status as a big team in the The Premier League and it is not impossible that it will happen if they continue to keep Ten Hag who not been able to bring Manchester United to the better so far, the trust given by the management to Ten Hag obviously has a big risk and I think the management will realize the mistake when Manchester may be relegated later Cheesy

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Quote from: Huppercase on October 05, 2024, 02:35:11 PM

Manchester United might pull some triggers we may not see coming because if they lose this match, the little credibility they are managing with fans is going to be over and more probability of Erik Ten Hag going to leave the club, forget the scope of early and believing in players. There is nothing to believe in him again, all those statements are crap and cheap talks.

I really don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag on the team, I don't find any logical reasons, however, those who defend Ten Hag, I don't know why they do it, I understand his family and some of his friends, but the rest who are MU fans should do their part to ensure that MU wins and has good results. At this stage in life, a team should not be the victim of a coach who is in 13th place and says that they are the best team that has improved the most in the PL , that is something that doesn't make sense, I still don't understand what they are defending him for.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 09, 2024, 06:43:16 PM

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
and indeed if the standard is like this, it will be difficult for Man United to really be able to advance and develop again. They need more than just that, more than that. Or they will just be at that level, maybe even much worse.

Until Eric Ten Hag over confidence is been brought to an abrupt end, he will never stop having that big hope on himself that he’s going to do better and make the team great. He keeps repeating the same thing and the management are over looking everything and still giving him the mandate to carry on the affairs of the team. He needs to just make good use of this opportunity before everything take a u-turn, because he should also be expecting it if his performance does not improve soon.

Quote from: emrecemsan on October 10, 2024, 09:12:48 AM

It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag. Sad

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

The FA Cup and the EFL Cup is what is still keeping Eric Ten Hag at Manchester United because from all indications, he ought to have been sacked by now and given a good bye later at the end of last season. I don’t particularly see why they kept him, he’s too over confident in his style of management and I think that’s what has been winning him over with the management. Nothing lasts forever if theirs no change, it even becomes boring. So I believe he will have to show more than what he has been doing before he’ll make it with the club to the end of the season or even to the next round of the season with Manchester United.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 09, 2024, 07:14:43 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2024, 11:48:08 AM

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

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It wasn't me making that post my friend.

I was the quoting one.

This is really bad news for Mazraoui and Manchester United both. Sad

He is out for a few weeks and as far as I can see his return date isn't certain yet. He has just signed for them and now this happens. The Red Devils are surely not one of the lucky teams in the Premier League.

But at least they are lucky about one thing this time. There is a national break so he is going to miss less games than normal.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2024, 11:48:08 AM

This must be a complete joke. Just how did they end up with this decision? Grin

After all that unsuccessful run they are really ready to give another chance? While not even making any progress? It is just... very interesting. Then Erik ten Hag stayed probably until the end of the season for now. I hope he finds a way to save this team otherwise it is going to be a huge waste of time.

Like I said before that meeting wasn’t specifically to take out Erik Ten Hag, if we look at the whole situation on ground I think the day Manchester United handed over a new contract to Erik Ten Hag was the day they actually decided to stick with him for a while, you can’t give a contract to a manager that hasn’t been convincing and sack him after words. I think Manchester United board are looking at the direction that Arenal took with Arteta and are are ready to wait. The director of sports already made it clear that they are looking at 2028 or so to win the league as it will be the period the club will be 150 years.
So I don’t see them getting him sack but with further poor performance I think he might be out without even then having a meeting about it.

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2024, 11:48:08 AM

Did you see this guys? Huh

While we were waiting on what will happen to Manchester City about the breaches, this came out of nowhere. They already started to win against the Premier League. I'm really curious how this case will be concluded...

I always say that the immunity that the bigger clubs enjoyed is far too much and unhealthy for football, if this was mid or lower club it would have Been something else. Although this is not the main case but with this I don’t think even if Manchester city loses any case they will face the actual punishment for it.

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Quote from: hahay on October 10, 2024, 10:01:02 AM

Erik ten Hag has a contract until 2026, and I think that is a long time considering the bad results he has had so far. However, if Manchester United really still trust Erik ten Hag to be the manager of Manchester United, then I think the opportunity given is only until this season which means his contract will end one season earlier. Because after all, Manchester United is very much expected to fire Erik ten Hag at this moment, but if they still give Erik ten Hag a chance, then I think until the end of this season is enough and not longer until 2026, because it is very worrying because his position is getting closer to the relegation zone.

It will be ridiculous when Manchester United continue to try to believe that Ten Hag will be able to bring Manchester United better because in the end until now we can even see their performance has not even changed since Ten Hag was and became a coach from the start of the debut until the 3rd season this time.

Of course this should be used as a situation where Manchester United take a stand, it's just that until now it looks like it will only be wishful thinking because no matter how bad Manchester United's performance is in the end Ten Hag is always defended and of course this makes me feel a little strange when something like this always repeats itself even though if you look in terms of the conditions that occur Ten Hag is actually not worthy of being at Manchester United should.

Currently there is no reason that really makes sense when Manchester United try to keep Ten Hag as a coach in the condition of their game which is indeed very destroyed.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 09, 2024, 08:59:30 AM

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Helping the club win two trophies is not a yardstick that ETH should continue with his duty for Manchester united. Already i saw the ''handwriting on the wall'' that United may not sack him anytime soon because when the club was seriously underperforming last season the club didn't see any reasons to sack him and after he won the F.A cup they still granted him the privilege to continue with his job so am not even surprised that they granted him a one year extension which means that whether the team improves or not he will still continue till the end of one 2026. It's the club's decision so they should deal with any outcome that surfaces later on because giving ETH another 2 years to be in-charge of the club may not really end well but let's watch and see how it goes.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 10, 2024, 09:12:48 AM

It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag. Sad

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

Erik ten Hag has a contract until 2026, and I think that is a long time considering the bad results he has had so far. However, if Manchester United really still trust Erik ten Hag to be the manager of Manchester United, then I think the opportunity given is only until this season which means his contract will end one season earlier. Because after all, Manchester United is very much expected to fire Erik ten Hag at this moment, but if they still give Erik ten Hag a chance, then I think until the end of this season is enough and not longer until 2026, because it is very worrying because his position is getting closer to the relegation zone.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 10, 2024, 09:12:48 AM

It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag. Sad

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

The management of Manchester United might have considered several reason that made them to decide moving on with Eric Ten Hag for the meantime, they might have considered the coaches they can get to replace him which if I ask you guys, I don't think someone will come with a list of good manager that suit Manchester United standard to replace Ten Hag, and as such, sacking him at this point will be a big lost for the management because they have to pay him off with his management since he is still under contract with them.
Let's see how Manchester United will perform this season, maybe Ten Hag will prove people that are criticizing him wrong by winning another trophy for Manchester United, which I think it will not be possible unless if Ten Hag improve his team selection and substitution pattern to be having positive impact in their games.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 09, 2024, 07:14:43 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2024, 11:48:08 AM

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Maybe the official compared with another club which have the same problem with coach. Yes, I agree to management big club like MU is not instant, the coach need much time to managed team to be solid. If they fired ten haq today, and recruit new coach that make teams will start again from the beginning and the possibility a new coach will make a new mistake then the official will repeat again to fired a new coach and recruit a new coach again, so on. Everyone knows finding a good coach is hard nowadays because they already have jobs and feel at home at their club, I think the official was make the right decision to extend it, but ten hag don't be fooled being noticed, because he have hard work and must make the team should be better from today.

How much time does Ten Hag needs to bring the club performance to solid when he has spent more than two years in the club as a head coach. I think that there is a lot going on in Manchester United that we don't know with Ten Hag and the management, if not why not get his ass kicked after lots of poor performance. Maybe the management is still having big hope on Ten Hag that will will bring home another trophy this again, so that Ten Hag can reassess himself and conclude with 3 years, 3 trophies to intimidate the fans and management in order for contract extension Grin

. But I guess that will not happen.

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It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag. Sad

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

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