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I agree with you. There is a possibility that City cannot defend their title this season because of their performance. This is the first time after several seasons that they have more than 3 consecutive defeats. Rodri's absence has a significant impact on City's game. This shows that Rodri is an important player in City after De Bruyne. Of course Pep will try to find some players in this transfer market. They can't just rely on one player like Rodri or KDB. And talking about the title, I think City will have a hard time defending it but they can still finish in second or third place. Other teams like Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this moment to get some points advantage over City. Because with the current number of points City still has a chance to become champions again.
I also didn't expect that the impact of Rodri's absence could be like this on Man City, but that's the reality they dropped drastically and suffered a heartbreaking defeat, of course, must get a replacement that can be more reliable in the transfer burs opportunity later, but if you think about who is suitable to fill Rodri's position and KDB for his replacement because it looks like they will both be vulnerable to injury.

Arsenal? I'm not sure about Arsenal, they missed their chance many times, maybe we can think it will be an opportunity for Chelsea and Liverpool for them to stand further above to secure their position.

Rodri is a key player for Manchester City, and if they miss him, he will definitely affect them in the competition game, now that Manchester City are facing difficulties in the league and Champions League this season, I am sure if they are Rodri, the pressure won't be much like this, and I am thinking that Manchester City can't win the Premier League this season with the performance they are playing now in the league, Guadiola need to have some strong midfielders that will Arsenal has already fucked up already they don't have any chance to top the league anymore, they should just focus on the ucl and see what they can do. but if is to win the premier league, I don't think that will be possible for them anymore. Because even Liverpool are losing some games Manchester City are in there back and they won't let Arsenal to overtake them in the league, Arteta can just do is best next season and buy some new players to the team so that he can get the chance to win the league title. He as lost is opportunity already last season.
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I agree with the Arsenal owner's move to overhaul the team in the upcoming transfer market because so far Arsenal has not found a striker who is very productive in scoring goals. But I think they are moving quite late because if Arsenal management bought the best striker in the summer transfer market, maybe we would have seen a lot of progress at Arsenal.

Of course Arteta will be hated because he has built the team's performance well in the previous 2 seasons but this season Liverpool became champions, of course that was a big blow for them. But that's just a prediction because the season is still long and Arsenal still has many opportunities to improve their performance. However, several names have started to be widely associated with Arsenal, but I hope Arsenal can move faster to get the players they are targeting.
The point is, if there are no purchases in January, don't dream that Arsenal can compete for the EPL trophy, even the league cup will not be won this season. Because it is very unfortunate that Arsenal's performance is as good as anything but if there is no deadly bomber in the front line then it will be useless. If Aubameyang was still at Arsenal, maybe Arsenal would have scored many goals with Arsenal's current game. So the Arsenal owner's steps to overhaul the squad in the transfer market later must be done by buying a goal-hungry striker, especially since the good news is that Odegaard has recovered from injury. But don't rely on Odegaard either, because if he is injured again there is no equivalent replacement, so besides buying a striker Arsenal must also buy or find other talents who can be in the midfield that controls the attack.

Liverpool this season is naturally the favorite to win, especially since they are currently very solid at the top of the standings, five points ahead of Man City and nine points ahead of Chelsea and Arsenal. Liverpool's current success is because Slot is good at playing Liverpool's balance rhythm. Not as explosive as the Klopp era, the intensity fluctuates but is stable, balanced by strengthening the defense and being able to maintain the stamina of the players so that they are not easily injured with a busy schedule.
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I agree with you. There is a possibility that City cannot defend their title this season because of their performance. This is the first time after several seasons that they have more than 3 consecutive defeats. Rodri's absence has a significant impact on City's game. This shows that Rodri is an important player in City after De Bruyne. Of course Pep will try to find some players in this transfer market. They can't just rely on one player like Rodri or KDB. And talking about the title, I think City will have a hard time defending it but they can still finish in second or third place. Other teams like Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this moment to get some points advantage over City. Because with the current number of points City still has a chance to become champions again.
I also didn't expect that the impact of Rodri's absence could be like this on Man City, but that's the reality they dropped drastically and suffered a heartbreaking defeat, of course, must get a replacement that can be more reliable in the transfer burs opportunity later, but if you think about who is suitable to fill Rodri's position and KDB for his replacement because it looks like they will both be vulnerable to injury.

Arsenal? I'm not sure about Arsenal, they missed their chance many times, maybe we can think it will be an opportunity for Chelsea and Liverpool for them to stand further above to secure their position.

Similar thing happened last season so I'm not surprised, I think they got removed from the Carabao Cup his injury last season if I'm not mistaken therefore I knew things wasn't going to be well with Manchester City when Rodri got injury weeks ago, he makes the team look solid and make the work of the defenders more easier cause he's very good at marking and would recover the ball from opponents on several occasions before it even get to the centre defenders, Manchester City might not worry much about KDB's replacement since they perform well when he's absent but Rodri absence always put them in a big mess that's something that been proven in two consecutive sessions therefore a good replacement for him would be needed. Arsenal might bounce back since their key players are back from injury, Chelsea would keep improving but Liverpool are at the top of their game and would lead the table for a long time.
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I agree with you. There is a possibility that City cannot defend their title this season because of their performance. This is the first time after several seasons that they have more than 3 consecutive defeats. Rodri's absence has a significant impact on City's game. This shows that Rodri is an important player in City after De Bruyne. Of course Pep will try to find some players in this transfer market. They can't just rely on one player like Rodri or KDB. And talking about the title, I think City will have a hard time defending it but they can still finish in second or third place. Other teams like Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this moment to get some points advantage over City. Because with the current number of points City still has a chance to become champions again.
I also didn't expect that the impact of Rodri's absence could be like this on Man City, but that's the reality they dropped drastically and suffered a heartbreaking defeat, of course, must get a replacement that can be more reliable in the transfer burs opportunity later, but if you think about who is suitable to fill Rodri's position and KDB for his replacement because it looks like they will both be vulnerable to injury.

Arsenal? I'm not sure about Arsenal, they missed their chance many times, maybe we can think it will be an opportunity for Chelsea and Liverpool for them to stand further above to secure their position.
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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

That's a good move by Arsenal's head coach Arteta. Perhaps, Arsenal needs to be restructured before they can be able to move force in the race for the title this season because initially now, they are about 9 points below the league leaders Liverpool, that's roughly 3 matches. So they really need to opt their game of which making new signings may deliver them. I just hope they sign quality players next transfer window. Players who are filled with great energy and strength to make sure the money Arsenal will be spending in the transfer market don't turn waste. Saka is becoming weak of which finding a quality replacement for him is needed since he is one striker that is very up and doing for the team. They also needs to strengthen the defense, i think those are the major areas they need to look at that need immediate response.
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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

Arsenal head coach is not the serious type and that is Arsenal have not been making progress recently they don't know how how to manage players and of it is about getting a new player then they should have done that even before the season starts and it's now they feel is the right, and they left saka all alone struggling in front because the boy is not getting the support that he needs and that is what is affecting him, and the way things are going their is a very high chance that Liverpool might win the league am a Manchester city fan but even pep is facing his own challenges, and arsenal have been lacking strikers and they are busy buying defenders trying to play a defensive game and that is not the ball pattern of arsenal, the Kroenke knows about strikers but I wonder what the delay was for them, because now that we are resting they would have been able to win the premier league instead of Liverpool because arsenal deserves.
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It's good to see him at Carrington, as he was able to meet some players like, Kobbie Mainoo, Luke Shaw, Leny Yoro and also Mason Mount who are busy working on getting back fully recovered. I hope he is a brute manager and not one of these managers that focuses on favoritism. We'll get to see him implement a three man back from the speculations I have recently read. Letting Ruud Van Nistelrool leave was some right decision to make. Peng idea!

If this was written on a social media platform, I would probably like the statement that his presence at Carrington was not as a favouritism.
However, it is the manager's job to choose which players' playing characteristics fit the game plan and strategy he wants for each game.
Amorim may be aware that he is faced with the challenge of coaching a team ego that may be different from when he coached Sporting as a team.
Ruud Van Nistelrooy leaving?
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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

I kindly wait for what's going to be the outcome from the meeting between Arteta and Kroenke. I mean Arteta has spent a lot of money since joining Arsenal in 2019. He has not yet won a single major trophy for the club (I'm not talking about minor trophies). It's not worth it with nearly 600 million he has spent since he came to the Emirates.

I predict Kroenke will give him less if he wants a new player during the winter transfer season.


If Arteta can find or get not a star player but has great potential, then of course it will be good for them to spend money. But, what I am curious about is, whether Arteta targets to get players who are already famous, because if that is the case then of course the selling value of the player will also be very high. What's more, even though Arteta has a target to bring in several players, basically this also still does not guarantee that Arteta will succeed in making Arsenal get the Premier League trophy. Because again and again,  bringing in new players will also certainly take time to adapt. For example like Real Madrid, despite bringing in mega star players, but in fact the results are still bad so far this season. So, bringing in new players also really can't guarantee to get trophies for Arsenal.
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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

I kindly wait for what's going to be the outcome from the meeting between Arteta and Kroenke. I mean Arteta has spent a lot of money since joining Arsenal in 2019. He has not yet won a single major trophy for the club (I'm not talking about minor trophies). It's not worth it with nearly 600 million he has spent since he came to the Emirates.

I predict Kroenke will give him less if he wants a new player during the winter transfer season.

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Ruben Amorim has arrived at Manchester United, and his first match after the international break later will be playing away against Ipswich. Obviously, it will be an easy match for Ruben Amorim who should be able to ensure a win for Manchester United. But to be honest, it's a shame that Ruud van Nistelrooy was only an interim coach, even though Ruud van Nistelrooy kept Manchester United without a defeat but that still led Manchester United to bring in Ruben Amorim. Although Ruben Amorim was also quite impressive in the Champions League with Sporting, but I still can't be sure whether Ruben Amorim will succeed at Manchester United or may experience a failure. No one knows about the result.

It's good to see him at Carrington, as he was able to meet some players like, Kobbie Mainoo, Luke Shaw, Leny Yoro and also Mason Mount who are busy working on getting back fully recovered. I hope he is a brute manager and not one of these managers that focuses on favoritism. We'll get to see him implement a three man back from the speculations I have recently read. Letting Ruud Van Nistelrool leave was some right decision to make. Peng idea!
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There is no guarantee that Arteta departure will bring success to Arsenal. And if it's about success, I admit Arteta will be successful with another team. But are you sure Arsenal will be successful after Arteta leaves the team?
We can see how long it took Guardiola to succeed with Man City in the UCL and this can be a simple example that Arteta currently seems to have failed to bring Arsenal a trophy. But in the coming season or this season, we don't know what will happen.
Even though I don't like Arsenal, the opinion about his departure is not something wise.
Pep only need a year to make Manchester City to win streak in Premier League, while Arteta have joined Arsenal for 5 years, but proved nothing. Tongue

Even Arteta no longer being an Arsenal's manager, both Arsenal with new manager and Arteta with new team will not be successful because both of them can only become second best in top league.

Oh Arteta can get trophy, but he should manage in farmer league like Ligue 1 or small league.
I really agree with what you say because indeed every coach has a different style and approach in building a team, so far Guardiola is known for a very dominant game philosophy and can often win the championship trophy immediately, but I actually disagree when we must to underestimate Arteta at the moment, Arteta in my opinion has great potential and has shown some positive signs in Arsenal, so it is indeed management to patient and continues for support Arteta as a coach.
Arteta will probably be successful at any club if he coaches other teams, both with strong finances and teams with poor finances, then what do you think about Guardiola who has only chosen to coaching clubs whichhave strong finances so far, will he want to coach a team with bad financial and not have guarantee to be able to bring many stars to his squad later if his contract with City expires?
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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

I feel that all these are rumors that won't still yield any positive results, because I don't understand why Arteta would sell and send players on loan without a proper replacement. He should've known better than others, because Injury worries can be a big problem at some point in the league. Since the departure of granit xhaka, I've not seen that perfect Arsenal rhythm. And why is that?, because they failed to find a perfect replacement.

This is probably partey's last season, and they've not been concrete talks on how to possibly extend his contract or find a replacement. For a club that wants to compete and win titles, you don't have to wait for dying minute, which in most cases leads to signing liability (sorry to use the word). In arsenal's last game, it was 100% obvious that the absent of a quality striker and probably another good AMF, is killing their game. I don't need to say much because I assume the coach knows what's best for his team.
Granit Xhaka is the only Arsenal player that till now no one has been able to do what he does when he was around. The reason why Declan Rice was bought was a to fill in that position to be an aggressive inverting midfielder and so far Rice has been able to show slight performance but not as good as Granit Xhaka. I want to believe that it was one of the worst transfer  Arteta made that period.

In the meantime, Partey is not going anywhere. That is the worst decision Arteta will ever make now. Partey is the only defensive midfielder i can boldly rely on to play that role perfectly and sometime he can play in the position of Ben White in his absence. The best choice is to extend his contract. I know he is injury prone but some work has reduced for him since there is timber, Declan rice and Merino available in the team. Most times the coach can only get players based o the budget that was giving to him. I think that is one of the reason why he had gone to meet with the directors, so that if after giving him what he need for the team and he fail to win the league then he will leave the club peacefully.
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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

I think it is not Mikel Arteta who will be meeting club owners in preparation for the January transfer window. Coaches from other clubs will be doing thesame.There is a need to plan for that short transfer opening to enable coaches to replace injured and underperforming players. Arsenal being a top contender for the EPL title needs to fortify their squad to enable them give produce quality performance.

Bukayo Saka's injury is not long-term, so they might just get a backup player and not rely a replacement. Martin Ødegaard have been in and out of injuries this season,.maybe the Gunners might need a player to always be available in case he suffers injury setback. I think players like Martin are irreplaceable, so the club will keep them until they become more stable.
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There is no guarantee that Arteta departure will bring success to Arsenal. And if it's about success, I admit Arteta will be successful with another team. But are you sure Arsenal will be successful after Arteta leaves the team?
We can see how long it took Guardiola to succeed with Man City in the UCL and this can be a simple example that Arteta currently seems to have failed to bring Arsenal a trophy. But in the coming season or this season, we don't know what will happen.
Even though I don't like Arsenal, the opinion about his departure is not something wise.
Pep only need a year to make Manchester City to win streak in Premier League, while Arteta have joined Arsenal for 5 years, but proved nothing. Tongue

Even Arteta no longer being an Arsenal's manager, both Arsenal with new manager and Arteta with new team will not be successful because both of them can only become second best in top league.

Oh Arteta can get trophy, but he should manage in farmer league like Ligue 1 or small league.
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Manchester City's chances of competing to win the top position of the standings that we are currently sitting on but as you say that it is not easy or difficult.
Liverpool will try to be consistent with hard work so far because the slot is aware that Manchester City is still burning from behind.

Last season we saw something like that with Arsenal. Man City took Arsenal's consistency all season long towards the end of the season. I don't expect that to happen to Liverpool, they look pretty strong at the moment. Maintaining consistency throughout the season is not easy. But I think it would be more interesting if the competition was indeed followed by 2-3 teams currently at the top. I hope Liverpool can stay at the top longer and maintain their game. Man City will be the team that works hard to catch up on the points.
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There is a possibility that City cannot defend their title this season because of their performance. This is the first time after several seasons that they have more than 3 consecutive defeats. Rodri's absence has a significant impact on City's game. This shows that Rodri is an important player in City after De Bruyne. Of course Pep will try to find some players in this transfer market. They can't just rely on one player like Rodri or KDB. And talking about the title, I think City will have a hard time defending it but they can still finish in second or third place. Other teams like Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this moment to get some points advantage over City. Because with the current number of points City still has a chance to become champions again.
That would be quite shocking really, and nobody expected that at the start of the season so I would say that would be something not really expected by anyone. City definitely hurts big time right now with Rodri missing, he played a very crucial role, that is why he won the award as well, but they are not really made up of just one player are they, they should be able to keep winning even without him.

I would understand if they were missing bunch of players, but they shouldn't crumble like this just because the yare missing only one player. In the end, we should still not really consider them having this kind of issue all that quickly, things aren't always this easy, they shouldn't be getting this much bad heat. I believe they are going to do fine, they should be doing fine, and I believe we are talking about something that shouldn't really be a big deal at all, they should be able to fix this and do better and get back on the horse again.
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As a great team, they did not lose just because one player was absent and I think it's very funny, how can they assume when a team that has great dominance from season to season and then  loses but many assume this defeat is only because of the absence of one player. For me, a result like this is still possible to be a reasonable result, because from previous  seasons when Manchester City won the trophy, in fact Manchester City also experienced several defeats. But indeed, in previous seasons Manchester City did not get consecutive defeats like this time.
It is intended if some parties consider the defeat of the team like Manchester City because of the absence of players who play a big role every time the team wins. I myself also did not judge the defeat as experienced by Manchester City because of these factors. It feels too much considering football is not individual sport but a team.

Manchester City's chances of competing to win the top position of the standings that we are currently sitting on but as you say that it is not easy or difficult.
Liverpool will try to be consistent with hard work so far because the slot is aware that Manchester City is still burning from behind.
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If I were Arteta I would leave the team after this season if Arsenal did not win the league title this season, Arteta has tried his best to make sure Arsenal won the league but he did not succeed, the reason why I said it would be good if Arteta leaves the team is that as a coach if you do not succeed in a team there is a team that you will succeed in, Arsenal fans are beginning to doubt Arteta because he has spent four years in the team and the team has not win league trophy.
There is no guarantee that Arteta departure will bring success to Arsenal. And if it's about success, I admit Arteta will be successful with another team. But are you sure Arsenal will be successful after Arteta leaves the team?
We can see how long it took Guardiola to succeed with Man City in the UCL and this can be a simple example that Arteta currently seems to have failed to bring Arsenal a trophy. But in the coming season or this season, we don't know what will happen.
Even though I don't like Arsenal, the opinion about his departure is not something wise.
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Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta has set to meet with the owners of Arsenal the Kroenke family. Of which the agenda is to make preparations for the 2025 January signings of player in other to win the league. Pressure has been on Arteta's side because if Liverpool wins the league Arsenal's fans will take bad against him and he might lose his place as Arsenal coach. The club is becoming serious to get a strikers and more better players for the team to win the league this season.

The attention of the Kroenke family was drawn to the need for a new striker, winger to replace Saka, another goal keeper and a creative midfielder like Martin Odegard whose absent after an ankle injury affected the team so badly.

If I were Arteta I would leave the team after this season if Arsenal did not win the league title this season, Arteta has tried his best to make sure Arsenal won the league but he did not succeed, the reason why I said it would be good if Arteta leaves the team is that as a coach if you do not succeed in a team there is a team that you will succeed in, Arsenal fans are beginning to doubt Arteta because he has spent four years in the team and the team has not win league trophy.

Arsenal is among the top teams that made a good signing this season and still, they are having a bad performance, although some people will say that injuries and some red cards are the ones that affect Arsenal this season if we look at Arsenal team the team looks like a team that is not strong enough to play against Strong opponents, Klopp leaves Liverpool when he started seeing some fans are not happy with him and I wish if Arteta do the same so that he will not be sack when his contract does not end.
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Aston Villa under the guidance of Unai Emery has developed rapidly since last season and has become a challenger to the giant EPL clubs Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City but in the end he finished in 4th place which was a fairly satisfactory result last season, and this season his performance in the EPL is still quite good even though he is in 9th place temporarily but he has the same points as Fulham but in the UCL he achieved good results in 3 matches and only suffered 1 defeat so it is natural that his performance in the EPL has decreased slightly this season but overall his performance has not completely decreased he can still be a challenger to the top clubs.
Considering they are 9th but with just one point difference from the third, they are really not doing that badly. Not really a proper 9th place, and that is why we could see them do fine, we could see them get a lot further, and potentially still finish fourth place. Unai Emery has been a great coach so far, and I bet that next place he will go to will be a major club, he deserves it.

I honestly thought Bayern would hire him this summer, but instead they got Kompany, which made no sense to me. If you switched places, Kompany would have made Villa at best 10th place, maybe worse, and Umai wouldn't get relegated for sure. In the end, next time he leaves, thanks to all he did with villareal and Villa, both have villa in the name I am just realizing that lol, he will go to a great club.
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