Manchester is getting closer and closer to the relegation zone. Today they lost 0-2 to New Castle at Olf Trafford.
They have won only one of their last six games and that was against City.
The next game is against Liverpool and it will be very difficult for them to get points from there.
I don't know how a legendary team like Manchester United got into this situation.
This year has been a lost year and if they can't get their act together, I think they will be relegation candidates.
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Chelsea lost again the second time in a role, moving to fourth place. This is among the main reason why I did say that before, I don't consider them among the title favourites. Their inconsistency is back. Although we can still see reasons why we can criticise Enzo Maresca for these loses, he has made disappointing decisions in his formation and during substitution. Although I'm still happy, since the players are acting poorly during this January transfer window and that means we likely will sign players especially in the defensive area and likely get a proper nine.
I don't know if Ruben Amorim actually deserves all the blame or even the blame that he is getting right now. He has been here for a very short time and already it looks like he is losing his mind and has his hands on his head. And a lot of coaches have been changed. At this point, I think the whole squad is the problem.
This must be because Man United at that time was gradually getting better and its position began to climb when under interim coach, Ruud van Nistelrooy. However, with Amorim, Man United's position dropped even further. Indeed, there were many rotations in his strategy and several decisions when the players were placed in their new positions. Indeed, Amorim also said that he was adjusting his strategy and it might take time. But right now, it actually made Man United's position drop even further.As for the rotation of players by the head coach Amorim, it's obvious he's trying to give all the players the opportunity to show their worth on the pitch if they deserve to stay or leave by the January transfer window. Amorim wants to know those players that fit into his style while he gets to sign in new players to add up to their numbers after the flops must have been sent off. Man needs time, and January is when the time starts.
This must be because Man United at that time was gradually getting better and its position began to climb when under interim coach, Ruud van Nistelrooy. However, with Amorim, Man United's position dropped even further. Indeed, there were many rotations in his strategy and several decisions when the players were placed in their new positions. Indeed, Amorim also said that he was adjusting his strategy and it might take time. But right now, it actually made Man United's position drop even further.
Ah yes, right now, Man United is playing against Newcastle and until the 67th minute, they are behind 0-2.
Manchester United’s management wanted to be safe, and they don’t believe in Ruud thinking that he will just continue from where Ten Hag stopped since they were together and despite the effort Ruud Van Neilstroy put in the short period of time he was given opportunity to coach, he did really well and has started shaping the team into a better team, but the management don’t trust him enough which is why they couldn’t wait till after the season before they sign Amorim, and they are also scared of losing Amorim because he might have offers from several teams because of how well he performed in his former team.Ah yes, right now, Man United is playing against Newcastle and until the 67th minute, they are behind 0-2.
It’s just four minutes to the end of the match, and I don’t think Manchester United can do something, which simply means that it is yet another defeat for the Red Devils
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Another thing, which is quite surprising is Chelsea who are behind Ipswich Town 2-0. What a match, even though they are playing against a club from the relegation zone.
It is a surprising result which come as offset because no one expected Chelsea to lose, I was expecting an easy win for the Blues today. Although some Chelsea fans were saying that Arsenal survived with 1-0, now they are losing 2-0. 
I don't know if Ruben Amorim actually deserves all the blame or even the blame that he is getting right now. He has been here for a very short time and already it looks like he is losing his mind and has his hands on his head. And a lot of coaches have been changed. At this point, I think the whole squad is the problem.
This must be because Man United at that time was gradually getting better and its position began to climb when under interim coach, Ruud van Nistelrooy. However, with Amorim, Man United's position dropped even further. Indeed, there were many rotations in his strategy and several decisions when the players were placed in their new positions. Indeed, Amorim also said that he was adjusting his strategy and it might take time. But right now, it actually made Man United's position drop even further.Ah yes, right now, Man United is playing against Newcastle and until the 67th minute, they are behind 0-2.
Another thing, which is quite surprising is Chelsea who are behind Ipswich Town 2-0. What a match, even though they are playing against a club from the relegation zone.
Manchester United v Newcastle United will be played tonight. Manchester United have lost their last two league games. Newcastle United have won their last three league games. I think it's going to be an enjoyable game. I'll bet on both teams to score. Newcastle United have been performing better than Manchester United in recent weeks. But we may see a surprise result in this match.
The last meeting between the two also ended with an impressive score, 3-2 for United's victory. Now the situation may be quite different, but United with Amorim must be under pressure to improve the team's performance. However, the poor results from the previous few matches must have made Amorim make a lot of improvements. He certainly doesn't want his team to continue to be in a slump. It's not an easy match, but there is a possibility that United can win the match. Newcastle is not a team that will be easy to face, they could make United fall into a longer defeat.
From the recent matches of Ruben Amorim, it is obvious that he doesn't know how to come back. It is fine to conclude that Manchester United has lost it tonight and it is such a bad way to end the year.
I believe Manchester City has come back to winning ways with a comfortable 2 zero win against Leicester city at home though Leicester has not also been in a good form this season I believe Manchester City fans will be a bit happy because it has been long they won a matches I still believe this win against Leicester city will give them more confidence to win their next game.
Talking about Liverpool their performance against westham really shows how prepare they are in winning this season English premier league tittle honestly the scoreline really surprised me even when westham were playing at home.
Nottingham Forest has been surprising this season no body believe they will be in the current Position they are right now if they continue like this we might see them playing in the UEFA Champions league next season but I don't think they will win the English premier league tittle.
To be fair I checked reddit and they are mocking the situation, as in they are "happy" ironically, because they do realize that Leicester is not a great team and beating them is not really a huge achievement, but of course considering how many games they lost recently, they do realize that winning is a good deal, after all it would have been worse if they got a draw or a loss, so of course they would prefer to win this and happy that they got it, but they also realize that this doesn't mean they are suddenly back and doing as good as they used to, they realize that they are not looking at anything improved overnight.Talking about Liverpool their performance against westham really shows how prepare they are in winning this season English premier league tittle honestly the scoreline really surprised me even when westham were playing at home.
Nottingham Forest has been surprising this season no body believe they will be in the current Position they are right now if they continue like this we might see them playing in the UEFA Champions league next season but I don't think they will win the English premier league tittle.
So they are going to be checking it cautiously and feels like we are not going to see too much change just yet. So we need to consider how this could be considered not that complicated, hence we are going to see fans be worried for a few more weeks at least, but if City manages to win many games in a row, then we could maybe have a chance.
Manchester United v Newcastle United will be played tonight. Manchester United have lost their last two league games. Newcastle United have won their last three league games. I think it's going to be an enjoyable game. I'll bet on both teams to score. Newcastle United have been performing better than Manchester United in recent weeks. But we may see a surprise result in this match.
The last meeting between the two also ended with an impressive score, 3-2 for United's victory. Now the situation may be quite different, but United with Amorim must be under pressure to improve the team's performance. However, the poor results from the previous few matches must have made Amorim make a lot of improvements. He certainly doesn't want his team to continue to be in a slump. It's not an easy match, but there is a possibility that United can win the match. Newcastle is not a team that will be easy to face, they could make United fall into a longer defeat.
I'm just thinking over what Salah can do more... I assume there is nothing coming to mind. He is the beast this season. 17 goals and 13 assists in 18 Premier League games... These are really unreal statistics. It is way too extra for his age in my opinion. He has already become a Liverpool legend surely. He has even a big affect over families in England these days as people have started to name their babies "Mohamed" more than ever.
He is the beast this season. 17 goals and 13 assists in 18 Premier League games... These are really unreal statistics. It is way too extra for his age in my opinion. He has already become a Liverpool legend surely. He has even a big affect over families in England these days as people have started to name their babies "Mohamed" more than ever.Mohamed Salah has a great performance. But he still hasn't got a new contract. And despite that, he has kept his mood up. I think he should be congratulated. He is a real professional.
Manchester United v Newcastle United will be played tonight. Manchester United have lost their last two league games. Newcastle United have won their last three league games. I think it's going to be an enjoyable game. I'll bet on both teams to score. Newcastle United have been performing better than Manchester United in recent weeks. But we may see a surprise result in this match.
I believe Manchester City has come back to winning ways with a comfortable 2 zero win against Leicester city at home though Leicester has not also been in a good form this season I believe Manchester City fans will be a bit happy because it has been long they won a matches I still believe this win against Leicester city will give them more confidence to win their next game.
I don’t know why most people think Manchester City is back to their winning ways after playing against Leicester City, and they were able to get a win. Manchester City have won just one match, and it was against a weak team, so we can’t say they are back to their winning ways, at least let’s wait for them to play more matches, and if they are able to win those matches, then we can conclude. I know getting a win is really a good one for Manchester City after losing so many games, and their fans have been down, they were able to secure three points, which is really a nice one, but let’s just see how Manchester City will be playing in their subsequent matches.Talking about Liverpool their performance against westham really shows how prepare they are in winning this season English premier league tittle honestly the scoreline really surprised me even when westham were playing at home.
I don’t know if any team will be able to stop Liverpool from winning the Premier League title this season. They have been playing well, and from their performance, I don’t think their performance will be dropping. Manchester City, which everyone was thinking would be competing with Liverpool, is currently performing poorly, and even if they are back to form, I don’t think they will be able to win the Premier League title this season.
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Criticism is a must, and it's a part of fan's right. Mostly of criticism even came from Manchester United's supporters itself, and it's a common thing. They watched United and paid it with their money, and how can you dictate them? In fact, their favorite team is awful to watch, placed at the bottom, and nothing delivered so far. Also, United has increased the price of its ticket as well. I see no reason for them to stop send criticism toward Amorim and his squad.
So many big expectation for him, yet they forgot Amorim came from a league with less competition. All of elements should be blamed, and they deserved it.
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I think at this point they should just fire everybody. The owners are also not helping at all. Making stupid decisions again and again. More worried about the image of the club and PR stuff instead of actually winning. At this point, I think Manchester United is going to be known as a mid-table club if this goes on for one or two more seasons. They are in the 14th place of the table and lost four matches in the last five. They deserve all the criticism they are getting.
I don't know if Ruben Amorim actually deserves all the blame or even the blame that he is getting right now. He has been here for a very short time and already it looks like he is losing his mind and has his hands on his head. And a lot of coaches have been changed. At this point, I think the whole squad is the problem.
While I agree that Salah had a great game, did anyone really just got insanely angry that Nunez is still being played after such a game? Dude is straight up terrible and there is nothing to argue that he is not needed at that club.
I feel like if they want to keep the run going and win the premier league, and potentially maybe even with the champions league, they really need to end up with focusing on getting a proper striker during this window. Imagine having Gyokeres during this January window, they would literally become of the best teams in the world overnight, if they are already not, but I believe they already are, even with Nunez. Dude is just terrible, he is just a physically fit regular citizen out there.
I mean he literally has no difference than any of the fans, aside from his fitness, pick anyone from the stands that does 5 days a week workout to stay fit, and I bet you they would be as equally good at being a striker as Nunez, they would suck too, but at least they would be cheaper.
I feel like if they want to keep the run going and win the premier league, and potentially maybe even with the champions league, they really need to end up with focusing on getting a proper striker during this window. Imagine having Gyokeres during this January window, they would literally become of the best teams in the world overnight, if they are already not, but I believe they already are, even with Nunez. Dude is just terrible, he is just a physically fit regular citizen out there.
I mean he literally has no difference than any of the fans, aside from his fitness, pick anyone from the stands that does 5 days a week workout to stay fit, and I bet you they would be as equally good at being a striker as Nunez, they would suck too, but at least they would be cheaper.
I'm just thinking over what Salah can do more... I assume there is nothing coming to mind. He is the beast this season. 17 goals and 13 assists in 18 Premier League games... These are really unreal statistics. It is way too extra for his age in my opinion. He has already become a Liverpool legend surely. He has even a big affect over families in England these days as people have started to name their babies "Mohamed" more than ever.
Another player I can say that I admire is Palmer. He is like the steal of the century for only 47 million euros. Now even his market value is 130 million and it is hard to tell how much Chelsea would price him.
Guardiola must be really craving for having a player like him in his team these days.
He is the beast this season. 17 goals and 13 assists in 18 Premier League games... These are really unreal statistics. It is way too extra for his age in my opinion. He has already become a Liverpool legend surely. He has even a big affect over families in England these days as people have started to name their babies "Mohamed" more than ever.Another player I can say that I admire is Palmer. He is like the steal of the century for only 47 million euros. Now even his market value is 130 million and it is hard to tell how much Chelsea would price him.
Guardiola must be really craving for having a player like him in his team these days. 
Behind the very impressive results so far this season for Liverpool, I personally really regret if Trent Alexander-Arnold really chose to join Real Madrid next season. Because for me, Trent Alexander-Arnold really has a very big role and contribution in making the rhythm of Liverpool's gameplay and performance very good so far. Although indeed, maybe Arne Slot will certainly have his own way to overcome if for example Trent Alexander-Arnold really leaves.
Obviously, Trent Alexander-Arnold is a very good young player and indeed, playing at Real Madrid is also that it will be suitable for Trent Alexander-Arnold. But anyway, if Trent Alexander-Arnold stays at Liverpool also that Trent Alexander-Arnold still has a chance to get a lot of trophies, and there is no need to leave. But yes, it all may have been his own choice to choose to play at Real Madrid and maybe for a better career and also the influence of the seduction made by Bellingham to Trent Alexander-Arnold.
Obviously, Trent Alexander-Arnold is a very good young player and indeed, playing at Real Madrid is also that it will be suitable for Trent Alexander-Arnold. But anyway, if Trent Alexander-Arnold stays at Liverpool also that Trent Alexander-Arnold still has a chance to get a lot of trophies, and there is no need to leave. But yes, it all may have been his own choice to choose to play at Real Madrid and maybe for a better career and also the influence of the seduction made by Bellingham to Trent Alexander-Arnold.
Liverpool again appeared extraordinary, although they had difficulties at the beginning of the match but they managed to destroy Westham with a landslide score in the end match, the victory over Westham further made Liverpool firmly at the top of the standings with 45 points, as well as Salah who is currently the top score of the English league 17 goals.
We watched another magnificent recital from Liverpool today. They beat West-Ham 5-0, they are playing great football, Liverpool are at a completely different level. There was a settled squad and there was a very good chemistry with Arne Slot in the team.
Muhammed Salah could have definitely scored 3-4 goals in this match, he missed too many. We see a Muhammed Salah who turns on prime mode again and again. It is really great how they can hang around so comfortably in such a difficult league.
Muhammed Salah could have definitely scored 3-4 goals in this match, he missed too many. We see a Muhammed Salah who turns on prime mode again and again. It is really great how they can hang around so comfortably in such a difficult league.
That was a fantastic performance by the players and Arne Slot, and it's clear that there was strong teamwork with the squad with their fantastic performance this season. The more I do not believe Liverpool, the more they beat their opponents by scoring a lot of goals. Take a look at how they scored five goals to thrash West Ham at home. Liverpool is ahead of the other teams in the league by 45 points and goals. With his improved play this season, you might be wondering if Moh Salah is growing younger as he continues to compete with younger players and leads the Premier League with 17 goals scored.
However, am I the only one who is surprised by how strong Nottingham Forest has been this season? If I am not mistaken, they are right now second in the Premier League title race for the first time. They scored two goals to defeat Everton in an away match, a team that Manchester City, Arsenal, and Chelsea all failed to beat. Perhaps the squad will make it to the Champions League next season.
5 goals seems like too many, but West Ham has resisted teams of their own caliber on their home ground. They have either defeated or drawn against teams of their caliber, but have lost to all the championship contenders. City, Chelsea and Arsenal have defeated West Ham very easily.
Arsenal even scored 5 goals.
As for Liverpool, they are a very fit team and have an 8 point lead over their closest pursuer Nottingham. Despite having 1 game less than Nottingham.
If nothing untoward happens, the Premier League champion will be determined in April this year. The biggest candidate is Liverpool.
When I see such results, when Liverpool crushes its rivals, I wonder whose merit it is, is it Klopp who built this team and handed it over to Sloth, or is it Sloth's merit who got a very good team and was able to improve it. Sloth gives the impression of a balanced and positive person, perhaps it is easy to work with such a coach, then it is unclear why Alexander-Arnold decided to leave Liverpool, maybe it is just a long-standing dream to play for Real.Arsenal even scored 5 goals.
As for Liverpool, they are a very fit team and have an 8 point lead over their closest pursuer Nottingham. Despite having 1 game less than Nottingham.
If nothing untoward happens, the Premier League champion will be determined in April this year. The biggest candidate is Liverpool.
Manchester City won, what a strange event.
Not so sweet win thinking about on how Liverpool destroyed for 5-0 West Ham.
Many games still have to be played in this turn but nothing and noone seems able to stop them.
Arsenal and Chelsea must win tomorrow and now they are under big pressure.
Really surprised that Manchester city won today and they kept a clean sheet. It's really been a long time we have seen city win and keep a clean sheet in a premier league game this season. I knew Liverpool were going to win Westham, but I didn't expect the goals will get to 5 without Westham replying despite the fact that they were playing from home. The surprising result for me today was Nottingham forest winning Everton at away. Everton that played draws with three big teams in the premier league, were won by Nottingham forest team, that's really surprising. Nottingham forest have moved to second position in the premier League. What if Nottingham forest are title contenders, can they really provide real competition for Liverpool in the title race? Nobody saw this coming from a Nottingham forest team. The premier League is really crazy this season. Can Nottingham forest repeat what Leicester city did in 2016?Not so sweet win thinking about on how Liverpool destroyed for 5-0 West Ham.
Many games still have to be played in this turn but nothing and noone seems able to stop them.
Arsenal and Chelsea must win tomorrow and now they are under big pressure.
Talking about Liverpool their performance against westham really shows how prepare they are in winning this season English premier league tittle honestly the scoreline really surprised me even when westham were playing at home.
Nottingham Forest has been surprising this season no body believe they will be in the current Position they are right now if they continue like this we might see them playing in the UEFA Champions league next season but I don't think they will win the English premier league tittle.
5 freaking goals sheeshhhhh!!!! That's cold! Salah was running around like captain cruch, looking for other possibilities to make it 7 or more I guess.. These boys have picked really fine form and the game seems too small for them to play in oh, get over it, that's just an exaggeration.. Delulu !!!
I'd really love us to take a look at Alexander- Arnold's goal today... What in the heavens was that easy flick with the ball? Before I realized what happened, it was in the net.... I was just as startled as the keeper.
oh, get over it, that's just an exaggeration.. Delulu !!!I'd really love us to take a look at Alexander- Arnold's goal today... What in the heavens was that easy flick with the ball? Before I realized what happened, it was in the net.... I was just as startled as the keeper.
Honestly I didn't see anything special with TAA's goal.
If you didn't notice the ball changes direction by hitting a West Ham player there. That leaves the goalkeeper desperate about saving the shot.But TAA looked really happy in this game while there are still speculations about him to join Real Madrid. Arne Slot also points out how happy he is by showing his goal celebration there as a proof. I don't know we will see on next days.
Liverpool are really unstoppable that's obvious. They are a goal machine lately. Will anybody be able to keep up with them you think? Personally I don't think so.
Odds for all tomorrow's games:
Some might say that betting against Man City is a good value bet, as it doesn't look like the bookies account for Man City's recent streak of 5 games without a win and only 1 win in their last 13 games. Still, I wouldn't bet against them, as I have a feeling they will break that streak and come home with the much-needed 3 points.
Yesterday,we saw excellent game of the tournament because Manchester City did excellent come back and won the match against Leicester City football team. That was totally one sided match and Manchester City proved, that is big team and they know how to jump in down fall. Leicester City football team could not do any goal in this match and Manchester City has brilliant position on the table because Manchester City has 31 points on the table and has 5th position on the table. Sávio did first goal of the match he did goal at 21 minutes of the match and he gave good start to his team and after this opponent team did struggle but could not do any goal in this match and after this one more player did goal in this match and that was Haaland and he did goal at 74 minutes of the match and his team won the match one sided. Some might say that betting against Man City is a good value bet, as it doesn't look like the bookies account for Man City's recent streak of 5 games without a win and only 1 win in their last 13 games. Still, I wouldn't bet against them, as I have a feeling they will break that streak and come home with the much-needed 3 points.
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