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Topic: Removal of escrow.ms? Update: Recommend users for DT 2, as escrow.ms is removed (Read 19834 times)

legendary
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Not dead after all: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/escrowms-76380

I've just received a PM from this user wishing me a "Covid free Happy New Year."

(I can't find the more recent thread otherwise I'd post there instead)




Interestingly, this thread of theirs from 2017 has had the OP deleted in the last few minutes and the thread locked.
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 254
This criminal escrow.ms is spamming my topic and insulting me, and moderators dont care.

reference
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1658437.160

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Start a self-moderated thread.

he also has many alt accounts here, one of them is HiringYou, creator of scam coin project Elysium
If you can prove someone is their alt account, I'll happily tag them.

I have 9 page old thread, if you can make it self/moderated, It would be great.

Dont want to start new again, because of many good feedbacks from buyers.

I cant do it on my own, so help please, if you can.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/any-e-book-you-want-in-english-only-1-per-book-1658437


As for proving alts, its the only person here that keeps coming after me with same insane actions like spamming, flooding and crashing that thread.

I dont have moderation tools to see its IPs, but 99% its the same person.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
This criminal escrow.ms is spamming my topic and insulting me, and moderators dont care.

reference
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1658437.160

[mod note: edited out prohibited content]
Start a self-moderated thread.

he also has many alt accounts here, one of them is HiringYou, creator of scam coin project Elysium
If you can prove someone is their alt account, I'll happily tag them.
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 254
This criminal escrow.ms is spamming my topic and insulting me, and moderators dont care.

reference
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1658437.160

he also has many alt accounts here, one of them is HiringYou, creator of scam coin project Elysium

reference
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annels-elysium-global-digital-currency-for-governments-citizen-pow-1777414

Is this forum such a joke, that anybody, even arrested criminal from India can do whatever he wants, even with -249 red reputation?

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full member
Activity: 169
Merit: 100
Probably police & judiciary is unaware of cryptocurrencies.So they are bound to think of bitcoins as something shady.They might have framed him without knowing enough.
Maybe escrow.ms was unaware of the source of that money.Maybe not.
But I don't think he will get his reputation back.Not with this attitude.
Pankaj, you should have paid your taxes :p


sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Can't belive people is treating this guy as a scam artist, I started reading about escrow.ms  last month, I don't think he's a scammer he's more likely to be a bussines man involded with shady people, ending up into some kind of trap he's saying this and based on what he has done in the forum why should people not belive him ? Because the police " The most corrupt organization in any country say so ? " c'mon guys.
sr. member
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The way I look at the situation is that escrow.ms was accused of a serious crime which would warrant a warning to anyone considering to trade with him. Initially, he did not deny committing the crime to the community  (apparently because he was in jail at the time), however he has since denied having anything to do with the alleged crime. The only evidence that I have seen is a couple of news articles from publications that I do not know how reliable they are.
I am a strong believer of it being necessary to prove guilt, which has not been proven, so I removed my rating.
I heard this news when it all happened but looking back i am not convinced that he was a culprit in the case,paper publication in times of india. The police busted a group of card frauds and they figured that they were converting the money to bitcoin and escrow.ms aka Pankaj Bhardwaj was a big time bitcoin trader he was selling coins to anyone who pays the deal and no way he could have known that the money he is receiving for the coins are tainted and so i believe that he is falsely accused in the case and for the large part the police in India might not know what bitcoin is all about and with all these circumstantial evidence i do believe that is the case.
copper member
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The way I look at the situation is that escrow.ms was accused of a serious crime which would warrant a warning to anyone considering to trade with him. Initially, he did not deny committing the crime to the community  (apparently because he was in jail at the time), however he has since denied having anything to do with the alleged crime. The only evidence that I have seen is a couple of news articles from publications that I do not know how reliable they are.

I am a strong believer of it being necessary to prove guilt, which has not been proven, so I removed my rating.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
I'm sorry i was just frustrated that time, I was arrested for a crime I did not commited, I had to spent 12 months of Jail in a city that's 1500km away (Mumbai, Maharastra) and 1 month in Surat (1200 km away) (Different states) from my home. I've never been to both places before my arrested. Sorry If I'm being rough, It's not my fault I was forced to live with hardened criminals.
As I said, it's completely understandable. Being punished for a crime, especially one that you did not intend to commit, is of course very stressful and hard on both you and anyone related to you. However, it does still not excuse lashing out at others because they didn't understand/believe you fully.

Ps: I tried to ask them politely first, however I was not able to explain them about my case in brief because right now my priority is court. I need to visit courts in every 7 days. After spending a year in Jail my financial condition is not good. I can't travel by Air so I'm trying to cut that cost by travelling in train and It takes a day to reach there.
Of course, as it should be. Perhaps it would be better for you to try and solve the issues one at a time? First try to get all of the court issues sorted so that you do not have to worry about it, and then work on fixing your reputation on the forum and other places.
copper member
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Electricity is really just organized lightning

While I would very much like to have someone like escrow.ms back in the community, him throwing the toys out of his pram isn't the right way to go about coming back. Explaining what actually happened, why it happened and having calm, sensible conversations with those who left him negative feedback explaining the situation perhaps would be.

I'm sorry i was just frustrated that time, I was arrested for a crime I did not commited, I had to spent 12 months of Jail in a city that's 1500km away (Mumbai, Maharastra) and 1 month in Surat (1200 km away) (Different states) from my home. I've never been to both places before my arrested. Sorry If I'm being rough, It's not my fault I was forced to live with hardened criminals.

Ps: I tried to ask them politely first, however I was not able to explain them about my case in brief because right now my priority is court. I need to visit courts in every 7 days. After spending a year in Jail my financial condition is not good. I can't travel by Air so I'm trying to cut that cost by travelling in train and It takes a day to reach there.

Hi escrow.ms

I have not crossed paths with you before, I was inactive on the forum at the time you were around, though I have followed your story carefully over the last year.

If you truly are innocent, I am sorry to hear that you have been subjected to a year+ in prison for a crime you did not commit. However, I need to agree with minifrij here, being angry at the community, insulting members, being rude, etc - will not do you any favours.

If there are certain elements of your situation that you cannot go into for legal reasons, that's understandable, but please refrain from lashing out at others. I can only imagine what you have been through during your ordeal, and can see that you have never screwed anyone on this forum, but you were arrested and did time for a serious offence/s. I am not educated in relation to the legal system in India, so am not in a position to comment on the corruption that may have occurred during your arrest and detention, along with what was published in the newspapers at the time.

You have only just come back. Give it time, tell us what you can without putting yourself in a position of being in further trouble with the law, and again, stop lashing out at others.

Lastly, please do not expect for you to regain your reputation overnight, or for the community to start siding with you just because you didn't screw anyone over on the forum. Things are as they are, and the only thing that is going to change that - is time.

All the best.
full member
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It's a shock somebody like you used to be DT1.

I was on DT because of my reputation of being a trustworthy man not because of my language or race.

You can see my localbitcoins profile here
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/escrowmsa/

I went to Jail due to same reason, If I was a crook and was involved in a crime, I would have flown away with millions. But no I was at my home when police literally kidnapped me from my home and asked my family to not contact local police, they asked me if I have CCTV installed at my home, which I didn't had. According to chargesheet I was not arrested from my home, I was arrested from India Gate, where I've never went in my whole life. Now you can imagine how corrupt Indian police is.

I have learned one thing in Jail that being silent is a sign of cowardness. If you want to survive you have to fight or you will die.

I have two questions...

1. I think, a similar incident happened to a person named Mahin Gupta, who is currently CTO of ZebPay. His bitcoin trading volume was most likely bigger than u. But, there was no arrest etc. for him. So, why administration was so strict about u?

2. Media reports that u transferred coins to someone name Sumair Sheikh in Dubai. Did u get to know this person on Bitcointalk?
newbie
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I had traded with escrow.ms over LBC and i am amazed that police lied a lot in your case.
1.were you framed?
2.were there was intentional conspiracy about you or it was just misconception from investigation department?
3.can you let us know how is INDIA jail in terms of condition.(food, Hygiene)
4. Are you married?
5. man i deeply sympathize for you if you are innocent, Your real name is open so it says a lot about your personality. Smiley

good luck, will be happy if you could write a brief journey during these 13 months, It will be inspiring. Not many people who get into such shit get a chance and respect like you are still getting here.
legendary
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Nothing shocking here. Assuming everything escrow.ms is saying is true, which I don't know if it is at this point, I could certainly understand the reaction.
It's understandable, however nonsensical. Regardless of whether the crime was done intentionally, it was still committed. Insulting people and leaving retaliatory feedback for pointing this out doesn't help any sort of reparations to your reputation.

While I would very much like to have someone like escrow.ms back in the community, him throwing the toys out of his pram isn't the right way to go about coming back. Explaining what actually happened, why it happened and having calm, sensible conversations with those who left him negative feedback explaining the situation perhaps would be.

I'm sorry i was just frustrated that time, I was arrested for a crime I did not commited, I had to spent 12 months of Jail in a city that's 1500km away (Mumbai, Maharastra) and 1 month in Surat (1200 km away) (Different states) from my home. I've never been to both places before my arrested. Sorry If I'm being rough, It's not my fault I was forced to live with hardened criminals.

Ps: I tried to ask them politely first, however I was not able to explain them about my case in brief because right now my priority is court. I need to visit courts in every 7 days. After spending a year in Jail my financial condition is not good. I can't travel by Air so I'm trying to cut that cost by travelling in train and It takes a day to reach there.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
It's a shock somebody like you used to be DT1.

I was on DT because of my reputation of being a trustworthy man not because of my language or race.

You can see my localbitcoins profile here
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/escrowmsa/

I went to Jail due to same reason, If I was a crook and was involved in a crime, I would have flown away with millions. But no I was at my home when police literally kidnapped me from my home and asked my family to not contact local police, they asked me if I have CCTV installed at my home, which I didn't had. According to chargesheet I was not arrested from my home, I was arrested from India Gate, where I've never went in my whole life. Now you can imagine how corrupt Indian police is.

I have learned one thing in Jail that being silent is a sign of cowardness. If you want to survive you have to fight or you will die.
sr. member
Activity: 1190
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If you were in my place and suffered even half of what I had you would have commited suicide you little piece of shit.
If you'll point a finger on me, I'll break it and shove it in your ass because I've asked you politely once.
Oh by the way Lauda means dick. So fuck off.
It's a shock somebody like you used to be DT1.
People change being in prison.  I realize this guy didn't get a life sentence or anything, but having your freedom taken away, especially in a country like India, can harden a man.  I'm surprised he's back here looking to get his rep back, but perhaps that shouldn't be shocking.  Trying to convince a community as jaded as this one seems to be after committing (allegedly) a financial crime is going to be a tough haul.
sr. member
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You probably can't say much, but the trial should be interesting. If you are truly innocent and got caught up in the wrong crowd, I wish you the best.
Considering he is in India,you know it's easy to get away with such issues.Court and stuff is bullshit,money rules the courts around here.If escrow.ms bribes a few officers involved in the case,they'd burn the documents and won't leave any traces.And if he use even the smallest political powers ,even better,he'd be out on bail within seconds.Welcome to democracy.
If that was that easy he would have been out in bail long back and he was put in jail for 13 months before getting a bail and the trial is not even started.I know the court stuff will drag your life but it is not that easy like you say that everyone is corrupted. Unless you get tangled in a court case in India you will not know how hard it is to get out.

There was no interrogation, they wrote something in their local language and asked me to sign it and I had to do it that time. Everything you've read in news were made up by the police guys.

I was not aware of the crime else I would have contacted police first.  Thanks buddy.
I really do not know what the truth is,but what he is said is true,India being a country with more languages it will be hard to understand any local languages and everything you read in news are not exactly true and if you read all the news papers available you will see different versions of the event in each news paper .
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
Nothing shocking here. Assuming everything escrow.ms is saying is true, which I don't know if it is at this point, I could certainly understand the reaction.
It's understandable, however nonsensical. Regardless of whether the crime was done intentionally, it was still committed. Insulting people and leaving retaliatory feedback for pointing this out doesn't help any sort of reparations to your reputation.

While I would very much like to have someone like escrow.ms back in the community, him throwing the toys out of his pram isn't the right way to go about coming back. Explaining what actually happened, why it happened and having calm, sensible conversations with those who left him negative feedback explaining the situation perhaps would be.
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
If you were in my place and suffered even half of what I had you would have commited suicide you little piece of shit.
If you'll point a finger on me, I'll break it and shove it in your ass because I've asked you politely once.
Oh by the way Lauda means dick. So fuck off.
It's a shock somebody like you used to be DT1.

Nothing shocking here. Assuming everything escrow.ms is saying is true, which I don't know if it is at this point, I could certainly understand the reaction.
copper member
Activity: 1904
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Goodbye, Z.
If you were in my place and suffered even half of what I had you would have commited suicide you little piece of shit.
If you'll point a finger on me, I'll break it and shove it in your ass because I've asked you politely once.
Oh by the way Lauda means dick. So fuck off.
It's a shock somebody like you used to be DT1.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Oh now it is a trust abuse, when you gave it to me it was justifiable?
Correct. You have left 14 unjustifiable retaliatory ratings. https://i.imgur.com/DGDU34f.png

If you'll point a finger on me, I'll break it and shove it in your ass because I've asked you politely once.
Threatening me now, are we? Go on, that will surely help you.

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