Scientific proof that God exists? - page 28.

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Quote from: karen442 on June 11, 2019, 06:51:11 AM

You should believe in god

Believing in God really means what? Does it mean that you know that He exists? Does it mean that you believe the things He tells you? Obviously, if you believe what He says, you must believe that He exists.

This thread is for the scientific proof that God exists. The fact that you somehow know that He exists, and that you believe Him when He talks to you is commendable. But what is the scientific proof?

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Quote from: Astargath on June 11, 2019, 02:00:31 AM

Quote from: BADecker on June 10, 2019, 06:16:10 PM

^^^ Wow! You have checked out the whole universe and found that God doesn't exist anywhere. Why, to do that, you... you... you must be... god!

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Then how do you know the flying spaghetti god monster doesnt exist? You believe your god does but the spaghetti one doesnt, have you been everywhere in the universe? Huh

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If someone takes all the info we have about God, and suggests that the fsm has all of God's attributes, then that person is really talking about God. If the only info you have for the fsm is that the waitress tripped, and the plate of spaghetti went flying, you really have a pathetic god in the fsm. If you ascribe certain attributes to the fsm, do they match what would be necessary for universe creation and maintenance?

Other than idiocy, what are you really trying to say?

The machine nature of the universe proves that God exists, as you well know. Machines have makers, as you well know. Universe-machine is so great that it can only have God as its Maker.

We talked all of this already. You know God exists. And you know that you will be destroyed if you don't acknowledge Him. The real question is the scientific reason(s) why you want destruction so badly.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on June 11, 2019, 06:15:39 AM

Yea God exist.first try to study how we live and who hold our lifes.
Study also all planet and universe why they rotating there own with out holding it.
Peoples,animals,plants who made that?
Is a scientist can give life? How come why they didnt believe in God.
Also the bible why whats in the written in the books are truely and existing.
We never see God but the proof is us.

Studying planets and the universe to prove god??? Lul more like disproving god, its called gravity. Science proves the bible to be false.

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yes , but you need deep meditation to understand this

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You should believe in god

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Yea God exist.first try to study how we live and who hold our lifes.
Study also all planet and universe why they rotating there own with out holding it.
Peoples,animals,plants who made that?
Is a scientist can give life? How come why they didnt believe in God.
Also the bible why whats in the written in the books are truely and existing.
We never see God but the proof is us.

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Quote from: BADecker on June 10, 2019, 06:16:10 PM

^^^ Wow! You have checked out the whole universe and found that God doesn't exist anywhere. Why, to do that, you... you... you must be... god!

Cool

Then how do you know the flying spaghetti god monster doesnt exist? You believe your god does but the spaghetti one doesnt, have you been everywhere in the universe? Huh

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Quote from: Astargath on June 10, 2019, 12:45:12 PM

Quote from: MFahad on June 10, 2019, 08:47:37 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 13, 2014, 09:27:51 AM

What do you think?
Please share your opinion about this article.

101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html

God is here, and i don't think that God need any scientific proof, we should ask our heart then we will get our answer and our questions are here that how make our earth and how make human being and how is the owner of the Universal?
Definitely he is God because He has a huge power and he is one and only, and he is not like us.

I asked my heart and it told me that you are a faggot, must be true then huh? It also told me your god is fake and the real god is actually a flying spaghetti monster, do you believe me or not?

When we can't find a solution then we should educated ourself, so same situation is here in our faith, we should define ourself what is actually we are?
When we are in childhood, we can't understand high qualifies questions, but when we get education then easily we find it. However, we should get education about our faith then in the end you will find your answers.
But i see in different religious most of the people worship too many Gods, I disagree with it. My point is God is only ONE, . It is same like, in one kingdom has only one King.

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^^^ Wow! You have checked out the whole universe and found that God doesn't exist anywhere. Why, to do that, you... you... you must be... god!

Cool

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God does not exist - it is a fact.
I'm deist.

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Only such a question can interest so many people. I'm shocked

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Quote from: MFahad on June 10, 2019, 08:47:37 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 13, 2014, 09:27:51 AM

What do you think?
Please share your opinion about this article.

101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html

God is here, and i don't think that God need any scientific proof, we should ask our heart then we will get our answer and our questions are here that how make our earth and how make human being and how is the owner of the Universal?
Definitely he is God because He has a huge power and he is one and only, and he is not like us.

I asked my heart and it told me that you are a faggot, must be true then huh? It also told me your god is fake and the real god is actually a flying spaghetti monster, do you believe me or not?

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 13, 2014, 09:27:51 AM

What do you think?
Please share your opinion about this article.

101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html

God is here, and i don't think that God need any scientific proof, we should ask our heart then we will get our answer and our questions are here that how make our earth and how make human being and how is the owner of the Universal?
Definitely he is God because He has a huge power and he is one and only, and he is not like us.

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very popular topic, I'm shocked

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This article is really interesting

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Being a Christian crystal lover, I have always been fascinated by crystals in the bible. The truth is that reading about crystals in the Bible makes me feel actually relaxed. It’s proof that God approves! Why were they placed on the breastplate of the high priest? What did God mean when instructed people to create an altar made from crystals and incenses? So, this post is dedicated to the instances where crystals are mentioned in the bible and how the individual uses of the crystal can affect your body and mind. I do recommend the crystal selenite specifically in this case.

Source - healing crystals blog.

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Quote from: qwik2learn on August 03, 2017, 09:30:46 PM

tests are not stories, they are scientific observations. A measurement of the power of mind.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Rama

Śrī Swāmī Rāma (1925–1996) was an Indian yógī. Several Indian yogis have influenced Westerners including Swami Vivekananda, Ramkrishna Paramhansa, Paramhansa Yogananda and many more. Swami Rama was one of the first yogis, however, to be studied by Western scientists. In the 1960s he was examined by scientists at the Menninger Clinic who studied his ability to voluntarily control bodily processes (such as heartbeat, blood pressure, and body temperature) that are normally considered to be non-voluntary (autonomic).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_nidra#Scientific_evaluation

The swami demonstrated the capacity to enter the various states of consciousness at will, as evidenced by remarkable changes in the electrical activity of his brain. Upon relaxing himself in the laboratory, he first entered the yoga nidra state, producing 70% alpha wave discharge for a predetermined 5 minute period, simply by imagining an empty blue sky with occasional drifting clouds. [7] Next, Swami Rama entered a state of dreaming sleep which was accompanied by slower theta waves for 75% of the subsequent 5 minute test period.[7] This state, which he later described as being "noisy and unpleasant", was attained by "stilling the conscious mind and bringing forth the subconscious". In this state he had the internal experience of desires, ambitions, memories and past images in archetypal form rising sequentially from the subconscious and unconscious with a rush, each archetype occupying his whole awareness.[7]

Finally, the swami entered the state of (usually unconscious) deep sleep, as verified by the emergence of the characteristic pattern of slow rhythm delta waves. However, he remained perfectly aware throughout the entire experimental period.[7] He later recalled the various events which had occurred in the laboratory during the experiment, including all the questions that one of the scientists had asked him during the period of deep delta wave sleep, while his body lay snoring quietly.

http://www.consciouslifestylemag.com/siddhis-attain-yoga-powers/

Mainstream science is not so sure. Many scientists and scholars trained within the Western worldview regard such powers not as supernormal capacities of the human mind, but as superstitions used solely to promote religious faith.

“In Buddhism, these are not miracles in the sense of being supernatural events, any more than the discovery and amazing uses of lasers are miraculous— however they may appear to those ignorant of the nature and potentials of light. Such contemplatives claim to have realized the nature and potentials of consciousness far beyond anything known in contemporary science. What may appear supernatural to a scientist or a layperson may seem perfectly natural to an advanced contemplative, much as certain technological advances may appear miraculous to a contemplative.”

Attaining The Siddhis

“The whole history of science shows us that whenever the educated and scientific men of any age have denied the facts of other investigators on a priori grounds of absurdity or impossibility, the deniers have always been wrong.”

— Alfred Russell Wallace

The Yoga Sutras provide a taxonomy of supernormal mental powers and a means of obtaining them. Today we would classify most of the siddhis as various forms of psychic, or psi, phenomena. Others might be called exceptionally precise means of controlling the mind- body relationship.

Before we begin our scientific examination of the siddhis, it is noteworthy that Patanjali and others specifically highlighted the dangers of dwelling on the siddhis. Patanjali states in Sutra III.51 a warning that may be translated as:

Avoid invitations to display or identify with any accomplishments in yoga, including the siddhis, even if invited by a respected person, because this can reinforce one’s sense of separate self, leading to ego, pride, and arrogance, and this becomes an impediment toward further spiritual unfoldment. There are many ways that this trap can manifest. If personal pride or greed causes one to be seduced by the ever-present challenge of proving one’s abilities to skeptics, such as using psychic abilities to win a prize, then the power gained by that seduction is likely to corrupt the ethical restraints that are the very first lesson to learn on the eightfold path. That “power corrupts” is an unavoidable truth in human affairs, and the consequences of the fall in this case are profound because the goal of achieving enlightenment, which requires far more discipline than simply developing clairvoyance, is lost. Even if one does not personally identify with an attained siddhi, and instead attributes it to one’s teacher or a particular lineage, the damage is done.

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Quote from: Vod on December 23, 2018, 03:08:36 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 22, 2018, 06:23:14 PM

Hi, little fella.

Keep on plunking away. It's fun, isn't it.

Actually, you are wrong again. You've forgotten I'm no longer trying to educate you. You turned out to be too dense to learn, remember?

There can't be any proof for or against the imagination.

If you ever manage to come up with a single one, you will unite humankind under a single belief.

I estimate you'll need a few more than 700 pages. Maybe ten to that power?

ohm so vod you are an atheist then?

i am not sure.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 23, 2018, 04:17:38 PM

Not to defend his beliefs or to attack an atheist’s beliefs.

I simply wonder why most people are not agnostic.
I have been around the block more then a few times and it is more honest for me to say I don’t know. So I simply let it be.

Most people are agnostic, I guess you could say most atheists are atheists really only against the bible since you can actually prove it's horseshit.

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Not to defend his beliefs or to attack an atheist’s beliefs.

I simply wonder why most people are not agnostic.
I have been around the block more then a few times and it is more honest for me to say I don’t know. So I simply let it be.

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Quote from: Vod on December 23, 2018, 03:08:36 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 22, 2018, 06:23:14 PM

Hi, little fella.

Keep on plunking away. It's fun, isn't it.

Actually, you are wrong again. You've forgotten I'm no longer trying to educate you. You turned out to be too dense to learn, remember?

There can't be any proof for or against the imagination.

If you ever manage to come up with a single one, you will unite humankind under a single belief.

I estimate you'll need a few more than 700 pages. Maybe ten to that power?

Well, he believes the more copies there are the more real it is, perhaps he thinks the same about posts, if he makes 10k posts saying the exact same delusional things, it makes it true.

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