Reagarding the rust free metals, There's a big difference between rust free coating and rust free metal.
Many sellers play with that and expected quality is far from the reality.
If the coating is damaged the bottom layer will start rusting.
It saves money to the seller but do the opposite to the buyer.
I haven't seen stainless steel washers rusting yet. If they are 316L then you are on the safe side.
In case you are in a doubt, you can always apply grese on the washers in case you live close to the coastline. That will add a few more decades life of the washers in case of tsunami, or you can hide them in a water too.
Even on rusted washers exposed on normal weather conditions, if the stamps are deep enough, they will be readable for years.
Topic: Securing Your Seed Phrase with Washers - page 12. (Read 7156 times)
I agree, the tests are fun, and it's always fun testing for the unlikely, even if that unlikely is incredibly unlikely 
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.This is the whole point of the thread.
I guess in reality it would be very unlikely for any of those seeds to be submerged in salt water for too long.
Even in the most dramatic earthquake, you are allowed to go back to your place and recover your belongings.
This would be your chance to recover your precious bolted washers.
I agree, the tests are fun, and it's always fun testing for the unlikely, even if that unlikely is incredibly unlikely .
I don't know how many times I've had questionable metal, that's suppose to not rust, and do. I've even had titanium which rusted within a few days. I'm currently looking for these Hermetic containers though, struggling to find them.
.The one exception to this would actually be fire or salt water (if you live near the sea); because house fires and floods are not normally occuring events, but could happen.
Plus, I'd submerging your materials inside of water too. I know it's not as abrasive as salt, but flooding from rain water is more common than from the sea, unless you live extremely close to the sea obviously. The reason being, as I said before you can't automatically trust the manufacturer of these materials, and whether they'll not degrade given a decent amount of time in water. I don't know how many times I've had questionable metal, that's suppose to not rust, and do. I've even had titanium which rusted within a few days. I'm currently looking for these Hermetic containers though, struggling to find them.
For real; people buy bottled salt water?
Yes they are ... just search the term ''selling sea water'' on internet 
On Amazon I found Panakos was selling DEEP Seawater in 5.28 gallon, and I am sure there are other examples.
People are selling everything on internet, and every merchandise finds it's buyer in the end, question is if they are accepting Bitcoin for ''special'' ocean water
Just hire few actors to advertise this on TV commercials and movies and you will have lines of people waiting to buy this...
Salt water, is for boys.
Canned air is for men:
https://www.ea-essentialair.com/ea-home/ea-universe/ea-air/
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You can buy it on the internet.
Back on topic: I don't see many reasons why your seed should be damaged by salt water, but you can try a long-run test. Just leave them in a jar for a couple of months to see what happens.
For real; people buy bottled salt water?
Yes they are ... just search the term ''selling sea water'' on internet On Amazon I found Panakos was selling DEEP Seawater in 5.28 gallon, and I am sure there are other examples.
People are selling everything on internet, and every merchandise finds it's buyer in the end, question is if they are accepting Bitcoin for ''special'' ocean water
Just hire few actors to advertise this on TV commercials and movies and you will have lines of people waiting to buy this...
yes, I'm only missing the one with salt water, I'd like to get the sea one directly but now I don't know where to find it, I'm a bit far away.
Italy is surrounded by sea last time I checked, but you can order it online and pay with Bitcoin
Italy is surrounded by sea last time I checked, but you can order it online and pay with Bitcoin
Regarding the sea, it's obviously an excuse for @hymperion not to ruin his own OpSec... or actually the contrary, as the vast majority of Italy is in the immediate vicinity to the coastline.
you always see us long! For real; people buy bottled salt water?
after musk made parfume with his hair and sold it for $200 if i'm not mistaken nothing surprises me anymore haha
For real; people buy bottled salt water?
That's ridiculous! We only have cans, and they came free of charge:(source)
For real; people buy bottled salt water?
You'd be amazed on the way women people are able to spend their money.
I am sure I saw canned air for sale.
Regarding the sea, it's obviously an excuse for @hymperion not to ruin his own OpSec... or actually the contrary, as the vast majority of Italy is in the immediate vicinity to the coastline.
yes, I'm only missing the one with salt water, I'd like to get the sea one directly but now I don't know where to find it, I'm a bit far away.
You can mix it yourself with table (or sea) salt from the store. The one exception to this would actually be fire or salt water (if you live near the sea); because house fires and floods are not normally occuring events, but could happen.
Depends on what country you live, but some regions are often affected with this.For example if you live in Florida that hurricanes and floods are happening every year, just look what happened with Tesla crap cars and salt sea water this year.
Lithium batteries are reacting with salt water (they create chemical reaction) and turning into literal bombs with fire that are very hard to put down with regular water.
I loved your very 'graphic' description of Tesla cars exploding like bombs. What makes it funnier is that it's accurate.
yes, I'm only missing the one with salt water, I'd like to get the sea one directly but now I don't know where to find it, I'm a bit far away.
Italy is surrounded by sea last time I checked, but you can order it online and pay with Bitcoin The one exception to this would actually be fire or salt water (if you live near the sea); because house fires and floods are not normally occuring events, but could happen.
Depends on what country you live, but some regions are often affected with this.For example if you live in Florida that hurricanes and floods are happening every year, just look what happened with Tesla crap cars and salt sea water this year.
Lithium batteries are reacting with salt water (they create chemical reaction) and turning into literal bombs with fire that are very hard to put down with regular water.
yes, I'm only missing the one with salt water, I'd like to get the sea one directly but now I don't know where to find it, I'm a bit far away.
Italy is surrounded by sea last time I checked, but you can order it online and pay with Bitcoin
yes, I'm only missing the one with salt water, I'd like to get the sea one directly but now I don't know where to find it, I'm a bit far away.
Here is one example of mostly used grades of stainless steel, so better check out what type is used in your washers:
https://www.mchoneind.com/stainless-steel-grades-chart
The only problem with this, unless you test it yourself you're taking the manufacturers word on what grade it is. Ideally, you'd buy a test batch, and run through your risks, and do actual physical tests on them. Even then, you can't guarantee their entire inventory is made with the same standard. So, there's always going to be a degree of risk. https://www.mchoneind.com/stainless-steel-grades-chart
I took a look at some of my washers I had handy, and there's no indication whatsoever what was used in the manufacturing process. So, I have no clue what grade they are. These are washers that are used on a industry that we all use though, and should be manufactured to a decent quality.
The one exception to this would actually be fire or salt water (if you live near the sea); because house fires and floods are not normally occuring events, but could happen.
Here is one example of mostly used grades of stainless steel, so better check out what type is used in your washers:
https://www.mchoneind.com/stainless-steel-grades-chart
The only problem with this, unless you test it yourself you're taking the manufacturers word on what grade it is. Ideally, you'd buy a test batch, and run through your risks, and do actual physical tests on them. Even then, you can't guarantee their entire inventory is made with the same standard. So, there's always going to be a degree of risk. https://www.mchoneind.com/stainless-steel-grades-chart
I took a look at some of my washers I had handy, and there's no indication whatsoever what was used in the manufacturing process. So, I have no clue what grade they are. These are washers that are used on a industry that we all use though, and should be manufactured to a decent quality.
hello, in the acid I can keep them as long as we want it's not a problem, even a month.
Since salt is not stainless steel, I can't find any useful results on that table. I just have to add some salt to the jar with just the water.
Since salt is not stainless steel, I can't find any useful results on that table. I just have to add some salt to the jar with just the water.
the acid reacts with the zinc. let's see what happens in the long run.
How long do you plan on keeping washers in this acid liquid?One more idea is to do long term test with salt water, some stainless steel is affected by sea and salt water and corrosion can happen for cheaper stuff.
This could happen if there is no molybdenum in stainless steel mix, but we never know this until we test it
Here is one example of mostly used grades of stainless steel, so better check out what type is used in your washers:
https://www.mchoneind.com/stainless-steel-grades-chart
even if the mystery has been resolved I edit the post with the full image, I used the thumbnails to avoid visually polluting the page.
I edit the post with the full image, I used the thumbnails to avoid visually polluting the page. What is the whole point of having a service like that if you need to click an image to see it?
You do not need to click to "see it". Thumbnails maybe are a little too small but it is disputable, at least it saves transfer. IMHO there is nothing wrong in click to see it in "normal" size. And now I wonder if you talk about that click (from thumbnail to middle size) or about the next one, from middle size to "original" size. I like that idea, because "normal" size is enough to understand what you see, while "original" size is far too big, I see only a part of the image on my screen and I must scroll. Unhandy.
the pictures are really bad and I can’t see anything.
Click them 
I prefer images that be seen without clicking too.
Who am I to disagree?
What is the whole point of having a service like that if you need to click an image to see it?
the pictures are really bad and I can’t see anything.
Click them Quote
Would you mind re-uploading with a better resolution (I use imgur.com)?
I prefer images that be seen without clicking too. The incisions would not have been damaged under any circumstances.
Well done.
I don’t know if it is the image hosting provider that is downsizing the pro tires or you took them with a device from the 90’s.. but the pictures are really bad and I can’t see anything.
Would you mind re-uploading with a better resolution (I use imgur.com)?
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