Topic: Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction (Read 1313 times)

I have never been into streamers as a from of entertainment, personally. They used to be more likeable and relatable in the 2010, now everything related to than has become about the same games and attitudes with can be very disgusting at times. In the case of gambling streamers it can be even worse. It is bad when someone have so much on an influence over teens and children which religiously watch when on the internet, playing games like Leage of legends or Dota for hours, but watching someone to gamble for literal hours and see their reaction can easily incite to engage in gambling for the first time.

In this situation where a person fell desperate enough to end their existence, I would say both the stream and the viewer/fan share responsibility. The streamer because of the things he does and says, disregarding the loss of life and the potential damage being done to teen and the fan for choosing to allow himself to fall into such a bottomless pit as addition is.

I can only hope he is resting in peace and this won't ever repeat anytime soon ... 

You know the worst part of this whole streamer and influencer shit  is that, people nowadays so much depend on the predictions of the so called online experts/streamers rather than working on their own predictions, they are more moved by the so called wins these influencers flaunt on their pages every single day, and they make gambling appear so simple and easy, making people to develop a very wrong perspective about gambling, which isn't supposed to be so because so many gamblers have been misled and compelled into making wrong gambling choices and taking miscalculated risks which has landed them into a very bad state.

99% of them dont care and would really be having that concern into their followers or audience, as long they could really be able to make or earn money then this what matter the most. They dont care about those
effects on what those viewers would really be able to hit up or something that would happen into them. They do their job and as a viewer it is really that on your own discretion if we do speak about
trying to do something which you have seen in the net. It would be just that depending on you on how you would really be making yourself that making good decisions because everything
wouldnt really be messy if you are really just that sensible on the things that you are dealing with. You cant really make your life to mess with if you are really just that mindful on the actions you are making.
They are really just that doing their job but doesnt mean that you would really be needing to follow on what they are doing.

They are directed to do that by the casinos that they promote on their streams, they do it so that people sign up on the platform because a casino wouldn't pay a streamer or an influencer for nothing, they want results for what they are paying and streamers do their best to provide them what they are looking for, so they don't really have a choice.

However, as you said, people who watch those streamers should know that whatever they show isn't always true and just because they keep winning most of the time it doesn't mean we as normal gamblers should have the same experience because gambling in general cannot let anyone win constantly, but streamers and their partners are given special privileges.

What a shame, as much as there's a small part of the blame involved in the person that just died because of addiction, I think that it's important that we also address this issue with irresponsible influencers, I don't think that people that don't have the mental faculty and capability to be a role model to their audiences should be allowed to stream because let's face it, kids and people that have no self-control and susceptible to idolatry are going to tune in to your stream and you may not see it as a streamer but you've got to understand that there's a lot of people out there with different behaviors and you might be the reason why they're into something, you won't be called an influencer for nothing, even if that word's associated with retarded clout chasers, you still have to remember that people idolize you so if they've done something heinous and they call you out as an idol or inspiration to that thing that they've done, you're partially responsible.

Absolutely. That's what I'm talking about. Don't blame advertisers. They are just doing their job.


Right, if more than 50% of the viewers commit suicide, that might constitute a big problem, not only for the influencer but for the platform owners too. But at the moment we are very far from there. Only few people who watch streams of casino games become problem gamblers, let alone commit suicide.

Some streamers do care about their audience and they don't endorse things that they know can be bad for those who follow them. However, that is not the case with all of them and most of them would do anything for money, and they have to do that because they earn a living by doing that, but they should at least try and bring content to people that wouldn't be harmful for them in any way.

Streaming platforms need to make sure that streamers on the platform don't go beyond a certain limit promoting things that might not be beneficial for the viewers or on a contrary, they can become harmful for them if they follow those streamers and try to do the same things as they do on stream.

Yes, that's right, luck to win at gambling is actually very difficult to come by, but for gamblers who don't have good knowledge and understanding of gambling, it will make it easier for them to take wrong actions in every gambling session.
It could be that gamblers who commit suicide because they lose too much and have too many problems in their lives will take shortcuts such as committing suicide, but this is very unfortunate because it does not use common sense but is a very stupid thing. scary.

That is a common trick by these influencers and they show to their viewers of how easily they won the bets but in reality, that is impossible for casual players.
I ain't falling into this trick as we have been gambling for many years and the chances never change. As a gambler, we should know when to stop and limit our time in gambling because the more we are doing this, the bigger the chances of getting into addiction. Following these so-called gambling experts makes no sense because they are the reason why many gamblers get in trouble for believing that they are true to what they have spoken.

I agree. People should realize that it’s mainly our choices that lead us to where we are presently. We could be influenced and motivated to take some actions you ordinarily wouldn’t,, but in the end, no one actually forced the individual to take those actions that led to suicidal thoughts and behavior. We should consider being more responsible for our actions and not try to run away from the outcome.

It may become a big problem for the influencer and perhaps the platform itself being used when 50% and upwards of his fans and followers become suicidal after having listened and encouraged by the streamer to do whatever.

Every gambler must know that when they are gambling it will not be so easy for them to win because they think it is simple but in reality the result will not be as simple or in their favor. If a gambler gambles without thinking that they can lose by gambling then my comment is that they don't understand anything about gambling, they are only motivated by others and they are taking big risks like gambling. Gambling is not as easy as gamblers think gambling is. A person does not commit suicide immediately, he thinks that suicide is not the right decision for him till the moment before he commits suicide, but he is under pressure from which he cannot come out and he takes such a decision. If we have gamblers around us who risk their lives on gambling then we should bring them back to normal life.

You could really be able to make out such assumption that this might really be that somehow been fixed or somewhat rigged and this is why some people or some gamblers would really be having that
kind of urge when it comes on playing gambling because they've seen that those streamers are really that winning and this is something which is really that make that kind of boost up into someones emotion.
This is why it would really be making out those kind of assumptions that its been fixed up or simply those people are really having that huge account balance and thats why they do really play like
on having those huge bets and thats why when they do win then it would really be something significant and that would be giving that kind of boost up.

This is why it would not be shocking that these streamers doesnt really that minding much about others condition about into its viewers whether they do have ended up on having a gambling problem or not.
We do know that its their job and its normal that they would really be that focusing into something that they would really be needing to do.

This case means that live streaming is not a basic reference for gamblers. It can be used as a guide to encourage users to win in the gambling arena, This proves that the fan who committed suicide certainly had a reason, maybe he was frustrated or something else due to the effects of watching him stream online on social media.

I often see my friends, after they watch streams on TikTok or Instagram, without thinking twice they immediately start gambling and I see they never get good results, In fact, we get losses, so gamble as much as we can and gamble according to the knowledge we have. Don't put your hopes and heavy addiction to streaming. We might lose control and end up ending our lives if it doesn't live up to our hopes.

Gamble what we have, remember streaming is not the main capital for you to win, let us control ourselves when gambling, that might be better.

The answer the that question is not far fetched since we already know that most of the streamers doesn't gamble on real games, at least according to speculations because we have seen how the experience of the streamers on the live video shows are always different from what the real gamblers experience at some point of time.


The ability to just doctor the show is what is their aim and once they got that audience and attention they will always control the mindsets of they followers just like in this case, streamers have alot to hide from the public and only display the positive display making their activities to feel as if it real and end good results meanwhile, some of those scammers never bet in real life, it all for the content.

I have one question, just one question.

Why do all streamers have good results when they are gambling on live video? If the way that streamers are gambling is the same way that everyone is gambling then it will be too easy to make money in gambling.

Its why I will never trust any gambling result from a streamer, they have their ways of  faking the gambling and also the money.

Only very few streamers do live video using real money from their fans, many lives have been lost through gambling and streamers are part of the biggest reason why many people turn into addicts faster.

Because it is part of the streamer's job to create or create illusions or content whose aim is to attract the attention of people who see it so that he makes money here. Yes, basically it won't be easy for a gambler to win, they will only be cheated or lied to by the streamer because the person who wins or loses has the right to issue it is the host himself even though the gambler takes over. If the streamer has taken the correct and appropriate steps, the results are still very doubtful. I agree with you that the best decision is from within yourself, not from other people's experiences whose truth is uncertain.

It's a shame that many people easily believe what streamers do, but it's definitely an interesting thing when you see people getting big wins at gambling and giving the steps, but they believe too much so they can't differentiate between what's real and what's just just manipulate. when they believe in streamers they don't think about the downside, their brain nerves are filled with fantasies of winning only. with thoughts that only think about winning, they actually set themselves up for addiction and other problems.

Too much trust is also not a good thing, when we believe we can win with the steps given by the streamer it can make us put aside our awareness, we will only think about winning, even when the gambling ends in defeat we still think about winning. so it continues like that until all the money is gone, and because the brain's impulses are filled with gambling wins, any action will occur that encourages us to make money, even if it is a big risk. Indeed, there are many gamblers who are in debt because they want to complete the thought of winning at their gambling. If they never get a win, it makes them stressed, so when that happens, there is a possibility that they could end their life because of excessive pressure, but this happens because of their actions. I was also wrong from the start.

When all kinds of pressures come together, it becomes very difficult for us to make the right decision. As you said suicide is never a solution but a person under such pressure finds it easier to commit suicide. A person who commits suicide is a person who has made the decision to commit suicide after multiple attempts have failed. Up until the moment before committing suicide, the victim thought that death would be easier for him because of his depression. When a man's back is against the wall, his wisdom does not work very well and when he cannot find the right path, he decides to commit suicide. It is true that a person who commits suicide does not care about the world but his dependent family members are going through a lot of problems.

True, some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.

I would feel okey enough with those streamers if they actually showed some proof of them using their own money to gamble and bet instead some fake money or bonification a given by the casino. It would be also refreshing if there was some way for the streamer to show to his fans that his game/software is not set up for him to have better results than I would get if I decided to sign up to the same casino he is advertising.
There is nothing wrong with doing some advertisement for a service like a casino, the problems start when those streamers and shady small casinos cross the line of deceiving their viewers and make them believe their can change their lives by gambling and earn much money. That is when these things turn unacceptable.

I wonder if someday, the government of the United States and the European Union will dare to place some basic rules for streamers of gambling content, on those points. So it would be harder for viewers to create false expectations for themselves and gambling.