Topic: Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction - page 9. (Read 1230 times)

Exactly. I don't side with the streamer; it's just the fact that why would the streamer be accountable or look like he is being blamed? Yeah, he might have a fault, but not entirely. He has a fault in the sense that he is promoting gambling, but he is just doing that for him to make a living. He doesn't have control over who will be watching or what the state of those watching is in terms of their gambling activity. 

Condolences to the person who died, but fact is fact, he is the one who made his life worse, and he is also the one who is in control of himself, so I don't think there should be someone to blame. This will be a regret for the family or friends of the deceased because they didn't try to help with the gambler's condition, but as I said, no one's entirely to blame.

It's the advertising that is the problem. The platform can't just screen whoever can watch the gambling content whether kids of 20 years old or up, they all can watch these streamers. These should have been controlled and I guess parents have the same problem.

These kids also are vulnerable. When kids are not exposed to bigger problems in life, a little problem of just losing money, they already want to kill themselves.

The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 

This is the first news I hear about this case and, according to what you say, chances are that this streamer has some psychopathic traits (no regret, lack of empathy...). I don't think this is a performance.

To me, the main problem is not that people like that have access to these platforms, but that followers have not developed a healthy degree of critical thinking.

Everyone is responsible for all their actions, including when they really enjoy streaming gambling, they will be very tempted to try it too, but unfortunately many people don't realize that what the streamer gets from his broadcast doesn't reflect what his viewers will also get because streamers often only play with money from the casinos that sponsor them. so that when streamers lose it won't hurt them, unlike the audience whose emotions and finances will be affected if they lose, so the streamer should also tell the audience that what they get will be different for each individual so that when the audience gambles they already understand the risk of not getting anything because they don't get according to what was expected, or not the same as what streamers get.

This is one of the reasons here in our country why anyone found promoting gambling will have a competent case because usually these endorsers are not users in real life, they are just encouraging people to play because that is their job, to spread the word. about gambling and how to do it without any disclaimers to the viewers. I believe that the winnings they show in their livestream are not true and you can't change what is imprinted in my mind that they only use a set up account where they can only show winnings which is really able to entice the viewers.

This was a stupid act and it would be a shame if he did something like this. He should have imitated what he saw on the streamer instead of ending his life because he could no longer control himself in relation to gambling.
It is indeed very worrying that when someone is addicted to gambling, he will experience severe depression when he stops or reduces this behavior and that is truly terrible, not because of the impact of excessive risk in gambling. However, this is real evidence and we can use it as a guide or motivation so that we don't get addicted to gambling like what streamer fans have experienced.

This is one of the major negative consequences that can occur when a player is not aware of the risks involved in gambling, especially when they are influenced just because they saw it on a streaming platform. Its effect varies on different individuals, especially when they have different perspectives, they might misunderstand, especially if there's something wrong on the part of a streamer promoting gambling.

Kick should consider implementing stricter guidelines regarding the content and behavior of streamers, particularly when it involves controversial or potentially harmful topics like gambling addiction.

Even on Meta, there are many of these, former gamer streamers playing slot games and boasting about their large bankrolls. I'm not sure, but I don't think that's their own money; it's probably just used for them as part of promotion. Many children have access to Facebook and enjoy watching videos, so they might develop an interest in this at a young age. That's why I've unfollowed content creators like these now.

I’ve always frown so hard at gambling streamers because i think and feel most of their contents aren’t real and they are maybe some sort of calculated attempt to lure young and gullible players to the site to maybe earn some affiliate commissions at the end and I think these streamers are causing more harm then good and in my country, I’ve seen a lot of adverts from content creators about a particular local game “WAJE GAMES” and one thing I’ve noticed is that, they make it seem there is no loss in the game but when you finally give it a trial, there are extremely very slim chances of you making a win and I’ve also heard about several people who tried  the above mentioned game, I concluded the game is a scam but there are still adverts going on by famous content creators in my country and those adverts have high potentials and possibilities of leading their fans astray.

Addictions is a very crucial issue gambling and I think we shouldn’t castigate addicted but we should rather seek ways to comfort them as it could possibly be anyone a anytime.

This further worsens the image of the gambling industry because things related to gambling such as murder, violence or domestic violence, harassment and so on, ordinary people will blame gambling.
In fact, it's because of their own stupid carelessness, and I don't really care about negative gambling-related news even if it's just manipulation or whatever. However, ordinary people will assume or judge that the gambling industry is the problem.

It was a bad statement from the editor. Even if they believed they have zero reasons to be called into it, they should have atleast shown some sympathy afterall it's another human dying. I too don't believe the Adin Ross or his team has not incited the suicide in any way and that was the personal decision of the fan.
Streamers or any public figure in general are closely followed by their fans and even the creators intention might not have been bad, every small thing shown, spoke or referred by they has a positive or negative impact. So, they always need to be humble and corrective when it comes to dealing with public. Failing to do so would create controversy and hurt their own popularity.

At the end of the day, Kick is a business entity and with that, they can still Adin Ross to continue as he is one of their biggest streamers as you have said. Even myself have seen him play. And in response by the editor, he blurted it out and it was put out of context. He said that he thought that Adin Ross already knew the news about it and so he called it "old news". However, we really don't want to hear this kind of bad news and this is the worst thing that gambling can bring to us. Our decisions are very clouded and we can't really separated the reality. Hopefully, this will be the last time that we will hear this news as everyone can recover from our gambling addiction and not thinking of ending our precious life.

Bro this is extreme.

I agree that something should be done about these streamers and their fake life or whatever. The have caused more harm than good.
I don't see the value that they are adding other than pull their young audience into gambling addiction and its attendant mental health issues.


This should be taken seriously. Seeking help is the best thing that you can do for yourself.

I know it is not going to be easy but do not hide your addiction from someone who you know you can trust and whose opinion you value. You can beat it because there are countless others that have.

That's really sad for someone's fan to take his own life because of someone not listening to you. I do hope that these people in power that have a stream and reach try to see and be empathetic toward people who might be struggling with something. They should be controlled and accountable for what he is doing because of the fact that there are a lot of people who probably look up to him. It's a responsibility IMO.

The issue of having ethics in marketing is something that can be questioned when it comes to dealing with the behavior of Streamers. It is enough to see that when on TV, newspapers and even in leagues that are sponsored by a casino they advertise that same casino, there is always a warning warning people to gamble responsibly and informing people that gambling should not be seen as a source of income and that gambling should not be seen as forms of investment, and that there is a high risk of people losing money. This is a warning and mandatory information that you see on TV, newspapers and clubs that advertise gambling websites. but when you look at Streamer's, realize that they focus more on getting new customers for those casinos that paid them

Therefore, the Streamer forgets about honesty, forgets about ethics and starts lying to people, he becomes a character and acts in the videos, pretends that he is surprised by the victory or defeat during the game, pretends that he is playing with the player's money. their pocket, their performance is so good that they manage to convince many other people to play and think that they will win a lot of money with gambling games like the Streamer's that they saw. Streamers don't keep saying things like you shouldn't gamble with money you can't afford to lose, because if they kept talking about that, they would lose customers, that's why they don't say anything about the dangers of gambling, just stay in character during the Stream

I myself had a Stream channel that I sometimes watched, the guy was honest, but since last year when a big casino paid him a lot of money, the guy changed, he started to be dishonest with people, even though I saw that the big casino makes selective payments and scams, yet he continues to promote this casino and keeps acting during his Streamer's, he keeps laughing, he keeps pretending that he is surprised that he won. I stopped watching everything he posts since last year, because he became a person who acts in his videos, as if he were a great actor, he became dishonest. unfortunately this has happened a lot

The problem was on Discord and not on Kick, a fan on Discord committed suicide while Adin was watching...

We know how gambling can ruin lives, if someone loses his life savings for sure he will think for a time about ending his life, but is a stupid move. First of all, we know the basic rules of gambling, and you shouldn't gamble more than you can afford to lose.

This will only cause some drama around Adin, but nothing will change at all.

The streamer can always remind his subscribers about their responsibilities as a gambler. The tragic event was not on streamer's fault as he didn't have direct influence in his subscriber's life. His influence is very limited to what he is showing to his audience. The responsibility relies on the person himself.

The family should also be aware of what's going on with their family members particularly those younger ones who can easily be influenced by social media.

I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

They just don't care this should lead to fans not supporting this kind of streamer because he is not sensitive to this kind of issue, it is just money for this kind of streamer, and don't care about their audience.


I'm not a big fan of streamers but the platforms should have strict guidelines when it comes to streamers promoting gambling platforms on their streams to avoid this kind of news that is disturbing they should partake of the responsibility.

It's sad to see this kind of news. Even if it's old it should not be neglected.
The streamer obviously doesn't like being attacked even though he might be one of the roots behind why the young one killed himself. But it's not his fault entirely. That kid also has a family and they should've been aware of his actions especially if he is spending a lot of time on his computer.
Still, I would be happy if the streamer would show a little sympathy over the news even though it's old because this ain't something that we should just avoid. Gambling addiction and suicide are like twins, and this just shows that money can even control our lives. And those who are advertising them should be careful with what they are doing. They should not stop telling people to gamble responsibly and they should also be aware if kids are watching their clips because those young people don't know responsibility just yet and they might do stupid things that would ruin their lives.