Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction - page 6.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on March 19, 2024, 06:37:10 PM

In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague. Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction. This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

You literally made a good point dragging out the words "Examine" and the "Fake money". If you are in the same Iines with me as I may think, let those streamers with their coalition platforms be thoroughly followed up with a research and authentic verifications to examine if actually yes, what the streamer is aided on the speculations by influencing the audience which basically attracts them to the platforms are reliable and realistic because most of these streamers are only coated on a sugary labels just for attractions but never tasted like one.
It is getting obvious that the so attractive demonstrations they displays to the audience on how to bet and win so easily is never the reality truth of the platforms.

So I am In support to suggest that whoever streamer and their platforms that displays of influences the public without portraying what it was displayed that attracted the audience should be looked Into.
Probably let their be a law guiding speculations that if a streamer streams on influencing the audience and they are not seeing those attractive features, such streamers and the representing platform should be penalized.

Truth be told, there is influential power in streaming which takes wreck controls of desperate and weak emotional bearers.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 20, 2024, 07:57:16 PM

There are streamers who are constantly reminding people that they should not gamble especially if they don't have the financial capacity to do so. There are also streamers out there who market their sponsors like there's no tomorrow, leading to other people believing that they can also get the same luck. Unfortunately, the decision still lies to those viewers and can make the necessary steps to avoid spiraling into debt or other financial problems caused by gambling. It's a very tragic story, but we as gamblers should always take this to our minds that streamers are mostly paid to do these types of promotion online, and that they have this safety net that not everyone of us have.

Even if they do that which is the bare minimum that they do, it's not enough because some people are so obsessed with their idol streamers that they're going to ignore everything that isn't favorable to them or that isn't being an example of a streamer, they'll continue to do what the streamers do because they want to make sure that they're keeping up with their lives, that's how it is with this people. I think that the streamer has the biggest responsibility because they are broadcasting their words and actions to a thousands of viewers and they're definitely going to be influencing some of them if not all of them. As much as I agree that it's the responsibility of the person not to be influenced, that's already like the cure stage in a disease and being a responsible streamer is the prevention part, there are some streamers that have principles that don't gamble or just won't do it and they knew that they can influence people into doing what they're doing and they don't like the idea that the people that are supporting them are becoming an addict because of them, if some streamers can do that even though the money is good, then it's possible to decline those offers.

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Quote from: alani123 on March 19, 2024, 06:12:35 PM

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

This is the consequences of being a gambling streamer because you will never know if you're influencing your viewers good or you are just putting them into a bad situation. Though of course we can not blame the streamers with this one since they are just doing their job and we still have our own choices when it comes to gambling, not unless the streamer forces you to gamble on a specific site.

There's a lot of news like this already and it's obvious that there is no solution yet because every gamblers have their own emotional capacity, and this is really a big challenge to every casinos and the government as well.

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Quote from: junder on March 20, 2024, 07:43:26 AM

Quote from: zuzie on March 19, 2024, 10:01:31 PM

This was a stupid act and it would be a shame if he did something like this. He should have imitated what he saw on the streamer instead of ending his life because he could no longer control himself in relation to gambling.
It is indeed very worrying that when someone is addicted to gambling, he will experience severe depression when he stops or reduces this behavior and that is truly terrible, not because of the impact of excessive risk in gambling. However, this is real evidence and we can use it as a guide or motivation so that we don't get addicted to gambling like what streamer fans have experienced.

I agree with you, ending one's life is of course a stupid act and in my opinion it is an act that should not be done, if a problem has occurred then we should be able to accept the risk of facing the problem and overcoming the problem is what we have to do, right? by ending one's life because that is an act of irresponsibility. maybe from the start it was wrong, they gambled excessively but were not prepared for the risks until the excessive pressure could not be accepted well, finally the choice they made was to end their life, this case is the same as what happened in my environment to young people who is still in his teens but is already addicted to gambling.

It's true what you said, when they are addicted to gambling, they will experience excessive mental stress and perhaps this will cause them to become depressed to the point of experiencing mental disorders or very fatal actions that can end their life. That's true, with incidents like this, I think it can be used as a lesson for us not to gamble excessively.

Gamblers should have high and precise awareness of the risks in gambling so that when gamblers experience defeat they will not be mentally affected by the severe depression they are experiencing and gamblers must have a good mindset because every problem has a solution. , not by continuing to end his life. the problem will just be resolved.
And from the start, gamblers must be able to stay away from thoughts like that. If you can't, then it's best not to enter the world of gambling because the risks are very high.

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There are streamers who are constantly reminding people that they should not gamble especially if they don't have the financial capacity to do so. There are also streamers out there who market their sponsors like there's no tomorrow, leading to other people believing that they can also get the same luck. Unfortunately, the decision still lies to those viewers and can make the necessary steps to avoid spiraling into debt or other financial problems caused by gambling. It's a very tragic story, but we as gamblers should always take this to our minds that streamers are mostly paid to do these types of promotion online, and that they have this safety net that not everyone of us have.

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It’s so easy to put the bulk of the misery the victim went through before the unfortunate action of taking his own life. Understandably, these streamers that are affiliated with and promote online gambling sites play a significant role in spreading awareness as they both directly and directly draw and keep their followers into the world of gambling.

It was the victims actions that led to his demise. Streamers, however they entice their viewers in the effort to promote whatever can’t literally force anyone to gamble. Their streams and videos may probably entice and motivate people into gambling, it’s our choice to actually go through with gambling.

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Am not a big fan of streaming gamblers ruining their streaming platform for both fun, building fan base and monetizing what they’ve built with the channel. It’s so not my thing although, I’ve streamed Drake once, it was fun but, not to the point were I would literally have the zeal or be pushed to go lookout for Drake’s stream.

They might do the most to there fans, having them believe in the inevitable, while the fans run into problems, they stay safe and have means to escape some negative effects that might stem from the process. In the event that these streamers aren’t responsible for what content they are putting out, gambling fans that streams these channels should take a great deal of being responsible for themselves. Don’t get pushed this way!

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Quote from: Stalker22 on March 19, 2024, 06:37:10 PM

In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague. Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction. This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

If you wanna explain to a 14 year old what fake lifestyle looks like point them to a gambling streamer for they are a perfect example of people living a mirage type of life. And this has really affected negatively the lens of the young people who follow these streamers on social media platforms about gamble, which has ruined them. The government has to call to order the attitude of these streamers because all it appears they care about is the money they making from whatever they chose to stream not putting into consideration the implications to their fans especially those with weak minds.

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I'm not sure how I feel about streamers because I do enjoy watching some of them. The content can be quite entertaining. I don't enjoy the big fake streamers such as xposed, trainwreckz(might be misspelled), Drake's fake stream for stake, Rosh, or any of the guys that are wagering $1000 or more per spin. Anyone who believes they are wagering that amount daily and not caring might not be ok in the head. They are doing a show for the gambling site and being paid for their time, the money you see being wagered is nothing but pure air.

The smaller streamers with real emotions involved are however very entertaining as the wins and losses they go through are directly tied in with the money they might make. Anyways, this isn't about my likes or dislikes.

The 1 thing I do like about a streamer such as trainwreckz is the fact that he tells people he is down millions and not to gamble. People should have to have some sort of disclaimer to let people know they are for entertainment only IMO. Might save someones life.

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Quote from: Zlantann on March 19, 2024, 07:12:54 PM

The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

I agree that it's annoying, and somehow I feel bad that the streamer doesn't show any sympathy to that guy, at least, knowing the person is one of his avid fans and following him. But generally, it's not the streamer's fault that it happened. We don't know the real story behind it and maybe the person does have lots of problems already aside from gambling addiction.

I also don't like streamers but what a bullshit if we allow ourselves to be influenced by these streamers. It should be obvious from the start that these streamers, especially those who are gambling, only care for money. Why become weak and be under these streamers? We should be the ones to control our decisions, not them.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 19, 2024, 07:32:23 PM

I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Sometimes most people add other life challenges to what they experience from gambling streams, which will place their depression on another level. So most people don't just commit suicide because they watch streamers lose games or because they play and lose a large amount of money to gambling.

But they do this after they have calculated everything they are passing through, and they might just think there is no point for them to stay alive again.

Better yet, they take their lives to stay alive and still continue that suffering. All such people need is someone who can talk them out of that and show them there is more to life than just taking their lives, which will cause their family more harm than they can ever imagine.

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The streamer should not be blamed, thos is because as a gambler one need to understand the health states, and knowing what risk you can take and that your health can handle, let say for someone who is having high blood pressure, he or she should stay away from anything that could trigger the heart to beat fast, and gambling results could definitely put someone under that kind of tension, so it best to stay away from gambling if you have any underlying health issues.

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The society gets influenced easily, especially when there is a fake hope of getting rich from a particular thing. This is why it is easy for those influencers to lure people into gambling, because they are after their own pocket, and for that reason these influencers can just lie and lead people astray. Gambling has being a vice that is currently used to destroy the future of youths that gambles for profit, because when they can no longer cope with their losses, they commit suicide thinking that it is the only way out.

Influencers and advertisers who promote gambling frequently do so in a deceptive or misleading way. They may disregard the risks involved or make false promises about the potential rewards. Not just the influencers, Many gambling companies also use predatory marketing practices to lure people in. They may offer freebies or bonuses to get people started, and then gradually increase the stakes, making it harder and harder to walk away. This is a serious problem.

Well then I think the problem is actually from the gamblers then, because I believe if you are discipline and strick with your gambling habit then all these promotions and promises wouldn't be of any challenges to you because you would already be on the mentality that you have a specific gambling rules which pushes you farther away from getting stuck in chasing losses or winnings in any casino that you involve yourself in gambling.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on March 20, 2024, 02:35:08 AM

The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy. Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)

Every streamer will be paid when they are live but they will live a complicated life, as we know in live streaming they are risking a lot of money like there is no price for that kind of money but it is all casino money that cannot be cashed out.

Maybe they are willing to do this because it seems promising by becoming a streamer and many people subscribe under their own referral link, but will the casino pay more I don't think so.

We never know what a streamer's real life is like, but it seems like their life is more difficult if there are few subscribers.

Yes and also when they manage to get the audience that enters through the referral link that they share and I think they only spend time in terms of their work as a casino promotion agent because as you said and I think it is true that the money that we see is very large that they make the capital is actually money from the casino or you can say it is also fake money that cannot be withdrawn and can only be played, but it doesn't matter because their goal is to make the audience tempted by the big wins they managed to get which in the end is what makes people enter through the referral link that is shared.

On the other hand I don't know if there are other funds or other income they get but what I know for sure is that they will get a large enough fee for their agreement with the casino and after that they will also get an additional bonus from the number of gamblers who lose, or simply put they get a few percent share when the gamblers who enter through the referral link they share lose, and yes maybe the problem for them is in terms of subscribers, because that can reach more people to watch the shows that are done.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 19, 2024, 07:32:23 PM

I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

You'll never understand them. I don't want to commit such and it's not on my radar but, these people that have reached the peak of their emotional being that they can't get ahead of it and can't remove the thoughts that they're thinking at that point.

Most of the situations that I have read about a gambler ending their lives were like they've been in debt and in just a few spin or bet, they lose it all.

They don't know where they're going to get their payment but it's their problem and hard to heal from that. Such situations are easy to assess but if it's already personal and you're in the actual situation, it's hard to imagine how you'd deal with it when your mind is blowing and can't get the right thinking.

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Quote from: alani123 on March 19, 2024, 06:12:35 PM

Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction

After reading the news completely, I have learned that when any addiction causes a mental disorder, then automatic aversion to that addiction is created. A streamer's repeated streaming about gambling and criticism by netizens may have caused him to develop a negative attitude toward gambling and lose all control over himself, so he committed suicide.
When such an addiction instead of giving people pleasure, when they face hatred, people do not have control over that addiction, instead they find easy ways to commit suicide and kill themselves. There are many gamblers in our society who became so deeply addicted to gambling that now most of them are seen as drug addicts. So I cannot in any way consider a bad addiction like gambling as a means of entertainment or income.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 19, 2024, 07:32:23 PM

I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Don't say such thing, some people have fragile heart that melt when they encounter little challenge and some of them have not experienced such kind of difficulties in life. I can't even imagined myself taking my own precious life when there are plenty of life to be enjoyed, I will rather watch me see the world talk about my mistake than taking my own life because nothing in this world is worth taking your own life. Sometimes, I think people forget to have hope when they are down.

I think it's high time streamers are held accountable for people they influence into betting, I wonder what happened to the gambling is for fun before some people take harsh decisions especially when it comes to taking their own life, they don't even think about the people they are going to hurt when they are away.

It is a very sensitive topic, I would say delicate, but you have to know how to play and know how to say some things, a normal influencer has to always have a very High spirit, and that is something that you have to do all the time, for Therefore, when we are people who are generating some money through work like this, we must Know very well that things will sometimes turn ugly and go wrong, we must have enough moral strength to get out of any adversity, We live in a system where we are able to get out of adversity very well, except that we live in a world where everyone wants to point us out for doing things that others believe are wrong, but that those people do do.

It is a thought that someone commits suicide because they are lacking the bond of faith and love that is life, life is so beautiful to take it away that sometimes I think that people who commit suicide are because they are influenced by many bad Things.

Lets consider out other factors too on why people do really commit out suicide and not everything should really be getting blamed into those influencers considering that they are really just that doing their job.
It is really just that these kind of suivide situation for those people who do become that addicted is that not all things would really be that be blamed into the influencer itself on which we do know that
each of us does have that kind of so called way of thinking on things on which it would really be that so impossible that you cant really be able to make out decisions for yourself whether you are
that be stopping on doing gambling because you have lost too much or would really be playing since you are really just that spending on the amount which you can afford to lose.
It would really be just that basing up on how you would really be making up decisions because its impossible that a certain person wouldnt really be having into.

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In real sense, or reality per say, we can necessarily blame gambling streamers for whatever fate that befalls any of their fans, for I personally have always had this believe that a man is the moulder and author of his or her own destiny, when watching streamers do what ever they do on live stream, I believe they never force anyone to do the same thing they do, viewers still have their liberty to choose to, or not choose to do that which they have watched the streamer do.

So, in the nutshell, I am not saying that what Adin (or what ever he's called) did is right by dismissing the death of his fan who committed suicide in such a manner that he did, for I believe that he should have showed a little concern and payed some respect to the dead, but in the end, we all are captain of our life and decide how to live it decide what to do and what not to do, and actually, It is not any of his fault that his fan had to take his own life, that was completely the fan's decision and a poorly made one at that.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on March 20, 2024, 02:35:08 AM

The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy. Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)

Every streamer will be paid when they are live but they will live a complicated life, as we know in live streaming they are risking a lot of money like there is no price for that kind of money but it is all casino money that cannot be cashed out.

Maybe they are willing to do this because it seems promising by becoming a streamer and many people subscribe under their own referral link, but will the casino pay more I don't think so.

We never know what a streamer's real life is like, but it seems like their life is more difficult if there are few subscribers.

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Aww, sad and awful. I think that most streamers need to always remember their fans that they should only gamble with what they can afford to lose. Platforms like kick and twitch, they can't casinos sponsoring streamers to have them advertised on their streams and contents. It is not going to stop so there's no way to stop that unless the streamer changes his way and decides not to advertise anymore. And us being part of the gambling community, as promoters of casinos too and at the same time gamblers, we have to consider ourselves and needs to check every time that we're not feeling well. Maybe there's already something wrong from within that we can't realize it the earliest but in the long run, that what we have noticed is already having a heavy impact to our lives. It's hard to say that we should just stop when we cant' take the losses but we don't have the same tolerance as these victims of their own misfortune that led to something terrible such as ending their own lives. We don't want this to happen to anyone and that's why if we see someone who's struggling then we can approach them and have it reminded to gamble moderately.

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