Topic: Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction - page 2. (Read 1230 times)

Each one of us makes the final decisions on a subject based on our own motivations. Streamer can open gambling for a person, but before gambling each of us should study this topic on our own. Only then can we make decisions about what money we are willing to risk. Apparently, this young man did not want to study this topic on his own and therefore simply did not calculate his risks. I also believe that streamers advertising gambling should not be held responsible for the actions of others.

For example, I can watch some videos on Youtube now about margin trading. Open a position with 100 leverage on one of the crypto exchanges and get liquidated in a few hours. I don't think the author of one of the videos I watched will be guilty of anything. 

The situation is exactly the same there.

You've said it right. Indeed, people who take their own lives commit one of the gravest crimes possible. The extent of the grief they inflict upon their relatives and loved ones is unfathomable.

Casino promoters like streamers or others shouldn't be blamed in such cases, in my opinion. Only if more than 50% of their followers were committing suicides they should be blamed.

there is no issue when people enjoy and having fun in gambling but the problem is when you invest so much into this that you can ruin your own life just because of gambling and that is what we must not have in life.

wish this is easy said than done mate.

but we cannot act that easy when we are the one that involves in gambling so much , i have tasted this in the past mate and trust me it is so hard to achieve .

All streamers who promote while they are live are not good influencers, to be honest. It's just that most of them are lies. Of course, the usual thing that happens is that they encourage their viewers to play gambling, deposit, and grow their money because they are always sure to win as long as they use the link in the description that they put. But the truth is not really.

And others have had their lives ruined because they believed what the streamers who promote gambling online said, and others even had their savings run out because they were told that they would always win gambling and never lose. So those streamers don't really do anything good; they are just paid by advertisements. It's ok to gamble as long as we keep it to ourselves.

It's true that I also agree with you. These streamers only want to seek popularity and if their wishes are achieved then the streamer will make a profit here. And what you say is true, we should not believe what they show on social media with the bravado they get because that is also part of their trick so that we can follow them.
Because the real thing is to follow it in our hearts and minds so that later we can also learn how to gamble properly and correctly.

In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

Of course, every individual is responsible for all actions and decisions they take. and it is true that the media has a strong influence on a person's behavior, especially if that person is very vulnerable and easily influenced. And with all the limitations that each individual has, we all need to know that not all individuals have the same ability to overcome external influences, including the influence of spammers and gambling-related content.

and you are right that we must be able to learn from experience, which is not only personal experience, but also the experience of other people. We need to learn this, none other than to prevent ourselves from irresponsible behavior and other things that we do not expect.


Because they were born before us, with the various experiences they have, perhaps they can better understand how to solve a problem and find the best solution, rather than having to end their lives in vain. and therefore it is quite important, when we have a problem that we are not ready to handle, it would be good if we explain the problem to the people closest to us who are considered more mature than us. because by telling stories, even though we don't get the best solution, at least this can make us a little relieved.

And regarding attacks on gambling streamers, they should be able to take responsibility for every content they create. But rather than arguing with gambling actors, it would be better if we were able to process all the information we get as well as possible, so that we would not be easily influenced by negative things that could harm us.

Because encouraging and entertaining their viewers is their job to let them stay and at the same time get an additional profit with referrals in exchange for their time and effort for streaming. They are not charity but rather just working in this kind of industry. They are like the new era of artist that provides entertainment with their content.

Winning big or losing big is what the most typical highlights that viewers usually wants to watch on stream that’s why they always focusing on it. The most important thing for the, is they are using disclosure about gambling responsibly on their stream since it’s already known that the money they are using are fake.

Some streamers are deceptive and manipulative and they don't care about their followers all they care about is the number of people that will sign up using their code.

This is why I don't watch these streamers, they make it appear it's ok to lose huge money because there's always a chance that you can recover it.

But we must admit they are a big help to casinos to get more leads, they offer streamers money and bonuses to stream their platform, but with the way they sometimes do extreme streaming these controversial streamers will eventually lose the platforms they stream.

Man, our thoughts are warzones. Every action, every phrase, can stir deeper emotions. Streamers are on the frontlines, with insane influence. You're right regarding audience understanding. However, it's not ideal protection. Older people recognize life is a hard war you must win alone. Suicide? It's a method to hurt everyone else and leave them floundering without you

Streamers' fandoms mirror them. Negativity spreads like a disease. A terrible loop. Our situation isn't hopeless. Choose. Choose who and what we consume and absorb. Becoming an army of independent thinkers rather than followers is everything

The possibility is like that, when they see a streamer and like it then it could be that they will do the same thing, to get the same results. But of course, in gambling, the name cannot be ascertained, even though the streamer mentions that it is certain, can, guaranteed to get an easy win, it is just a tactic. Don't get an easy win, just getting a win once is difficult if we don't have luck in gambling. It is also not recommended to imitate the gambling that streamers do, including the tricks or patterns they share. That's just fraud.

But even so, don't be completely motivated by the streamer, because I think gambling is done by ourselves, the fear is that when we fully follow the streamer but the results are opposite, we blame others or the streamer, even though gambling is done by ourselves, actually it is the right of each individual, it's just that we have to know the limits, not because the streamer easily wins while we who imitate all the directions or steps from the streamer get defeated, sometimes it's annoying why we have to follow the streamer.

I agree with you. Most gambling streamers cheat their viewers with big wins and 50%+ winrate. I see many gambling streamers who keep winning and we know gambling is about winning and losing. You can't make money from gambling. It's just for fun and if you hit the jackpot it's your bonus. The streamers seem to have collaborated with gambling sites to provide big wins and always get jackpots with big bets when they are streaming. If you say gambling streamers are a plague, then the sites that collaborate with them are also a plague because they try to cheat their viewers.

the point here, we can't control people's mind sometime people's mind are so chaotic that every smallest gesture can affect their condition and therefore it could cause problems, as a streamer to be honest, they should know well what kind of age demographic their audience are, usually the older people knows well that there's no problem worth suicide except that it gonna add the burden, suicide is no way escaping problem its just gonna add more and more salt into the wound of the family being left behind and its a serious thing needs to be resolved.
not that I've seen so many streamer fans actually having inconsistent idea of themself that they always follow the idea that their favourite streamer are having, if their favourite streamer is kinda toxic the whole fanbase gonna be toxic thats just how it works.

Yes, that's true and I will add a little fact that in my opinion streamer fans do not have a consistent sense of self-confidence because they can only imitate the behavior of other people, namely their favorite streamers, even though they are not. have it behind them. not necessarily according to what he sees on social media.
And we really have to pay close attention to this, we can imitate the streamer's steps with notes that make sense to imitate and we can also use as a reference or analysis in playing gambling with precise and correct rules.

On the time that you would really be setting those hopes too high or something unrealistic or trying out to copy those streamers on how much they do bet and how fast pace they are really that making.
If you are really just that an average gambler and would really be tending to copy then you would really be messing up your life for sure because you would really be trying out to reach on how
they do bet without even realizing that it is really that absurd for you to do so. This is why it would really be always wise that you should really be thinking up well because if you are
rushing up yourself on betting without having those moderation then dont be shocked that you would be having that financial problems.

You would really be committing out suicide if you do find out yourself having no solution with your problems specially if its connected to financial then it would really be that so damn
hard to resolve it out and this is why it is important that you do know on how to set limits and realistic approach.

Yes, because expectations that are too high make streamer fans forget about the bad things they will get in the future because they only see and imitate streamers who they are proud of or trust because of their ease in winning gambling and in fact the streamers will also definitely lose if they only upload it to social media only when they win and there is no way they show their loss.
I agree with you that it is best to gamble according to your financial capabilities because this is a safe step and is far from the impact of bad risks as you mentioned, namely getting into debt, committing suicide, etc. Such incidents result from uncontrolled gambling.

I see people putting blames on  the streamer for influencing the death of one of his fans. We cannot restrict everyone from doing what they deem best for them. There are several other contents on the Internet,  TV and other places that can actually influence lots of people to gamble even way beyond their limit. It is left for the the gambler to stay focused so as not to get motivated unnecessarily to gamble till they get addicted.

Every gambler is responsible to himself. When addiction sets in, he and those around him suffer the consequences and not the streamers, casinos or other mediums he gets his motivation from. The fan who took his life must have suffered depression to the point taking his own life seemed like the best option. Stories like this should serve as a deterrent for other gamblers who gamble like their lives depend on  it.

How big is the negative impact of irresponsible gambling and streaming events? to the point that there are people who are determined to end their lives by committing suicide. A very, very stupid and careless action, because I think that committing suicide will not solve any problems, it will only cause new problems and leave sorrow for the families left behind.

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.

Suicide is one of those stupid shortcuts, there is nothing justified for this ridiculous act.
Seeing the fact that many of them commit suicide due to gambling addiction,
this makes us as players or even gambling fans have to be careful and always do good management for funds and on our psychology.

Seeing how infatuated others are when gambling, it is an early indication of how they will become addicts.
The streamers seem to master the gambling game, look to have a lot of money but in reality they bear a lot of losses and in case of problems they do not find a solution to solve it.

Even gambling addiction will have more complex effects, having multiple loans for gambling and further compounding the problem.

It is quite sad when seeing many incidents of gambling addiction like that, as a person who is responsible for yourself,
you must be aware of what is being done, be aware that gambling is just entertainment and do not use money too much.

It's actually not the gambling that is wrong, but the individuals who can't control themselves.