Topic: Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction - page 4. (Read 1311 times)

If the Kick platform allows such gambling streamers then nothing we can do about it. They deserve it or not is non of our business. Besides, even if we blame the streamer for attracting the user which eventually leads to gambling addiction, should we blame the streamer itself? We should be the ones to control ourselves and not be influenced too much by these streamers. Besides, these streamers, even though we hate them, didn't force anyone to gamble but rather just inviting.

But in the end, I also support eradicating all gambling streamers but only those who are just doing gambling-related that easily without looking at the site reputation of what they advertised. I mean those streamers who are just streaming a certain gambling site without doing a background check if these sites are legit and reputable. There are lots of local gambling streamers like that in our place just to gather more views.

I support the motion, it would have been different if streamers are warning viewers to be a responsible gambler but I've never seen one do this before, the way they do their live video is directly targeting the audience with no remorse about what would happen if the viewers go all in on the casinos.

Even shit coins from crypto you tubers are used to telling their audience that this is not a financial advice, some even go ahead teaching how to DCA without getting rekt, but casino streamers are different, they don't tell people how risky gambling can be.

This is why I also believe that they are not taking risks with their own hard earned money, that the casino they are shilling are doing the funding for them, they don't give a F about what can happen to their viewers, all casino streamers should be targeted by the law.

Many gamblers who usually gamble do not consider the actions they will take, such as when they win, they tend to take rash actions by continuing to gamble and also increasing the amount of their bet because they want to get a bigger win. Indeed, when they win, the temptation becomes stronger. to continue gambling, because when we win we will think that the game is good and can give us a win back with an increased bet amount, but what often happens is that when this is done what happens with continued gambling is a loss and the winnings are lost again , it's annoying but it's true.

if we can't consider the action we are going to take, it usually ends in disappointment and if that continues then what will happen is excessive pressure, so that it can affect our thinking and our mental state, which if the pressure is excessive, we cannot accept it properly. OK, it will damage our mental and thinking which can make us stressed, but it is caused by our own actions, so if we have done it then we have to be able to accept everything, including the bad impacts and risks.

I don't get it. Is Adin Ross(or his editor) guilty about some gambler committing suicide? I agree that his editor was out of touch, but so what?
Saying "we are terribly sorry" won't change anything. Nobody forced that guy, who committed suicide to watch Adin Ross streams.
Maybe platforms like Kick and Twitch should ban gambling streamers completely. What if a guy commits suicide because he was in love with some girl on Onlyfans? Is the Onlyfans girl guilty because a guy committed suicide because of her?
Victims of online scams also take their own lives. I don't get this kind of behavior. OK, you lost some money, but life goes on and you will recover, what's the point of taking your life for such a BS reason.

That's their own fault, no one ask young people to gamble, many casinos already state make sure you're 18+ years old upon creating account.

The family need to brought them to rehabilitation, perhaps they can recover from their addictions, if not the family need to take a step to kick them from family members otherwise they will keep bring new problem to the family.

When a boy or a girl becomes completely addicted to gambling and when he gambles excessively he not only harms himself but also harms his family. If a teenager or teenager becomes addicted to gambling at this age, they will directly pressure the family for the money they need for gambling, and by pressuring the family, they will try to manage the money in different ways. When the family agrees to pay him at some point he will threaten to kill himself and put more pressure on his family which will put more pressure on the family and he will be under a lot of stress. 

If gambling can be done responsibly at a certain age then gambling is fine but excessive gambling will not bring any good to a gambler.

It is true that each person has a different mentality in responding to and resolving problems in their life, there are people who are strong and wise in dealing with problems and there are also people who are really mentally weak even if they only experience small problems. they were immediately carried away by emotions. Yes, I agree with your opinion, every time we dare to take action we must have a sense of responsibility for the risks we will face later and every time we make a decision we must really consider it carefully, don't be careless and don't be too hasty because of this behavior. . is the main thing that will be used in gambling with the aim of preventing big losses and preventing us from addiction.

I wouldn't put too much accountability on Adin or his team for what happened to the gambling fan just like how I don't put much blame on artists advertising alcohols and cigarettes. Countless lives are also lost as a negative effect of drinking and smoking too. The only thing is that streamers benefiting from viewership and sponsorships should be more careful of what they post on social media.

First off, Adin Ross is a massive fuckface that does not deserve any form of respect, mercy, or love from anyone on the planet. You could say the same thing for his editor and the entire red-pilled community that supports behaviors like this.

Secondly, if you’re gonna look or ask for sympathy, you wouldn’t find it with a guy like Adin Ross or his squad of editors and motley crew. They belittle people for breakfast, dismiss massive issues like it’s nothing as long as it doesn’t bring them cash nor fame, and they don’t even harbor respect nor an iota of regard from the very community that they try so hard to fit in.

Sorry to hear about this guy who took his own life out of gambling addiction. This is what I’m talking about when I say your life’s gonna be ruined by gambling in one way or another if you don’t find a way to figure your shit out. Learn how to control yourself, stop seeking for other people’s approval or care, especially if their notice or influence pushed you to this particular situation anyway, and make sure that you control your gambling urges before it controls you.

Come on man! Obviously, they’ll have to misrepresent things and in a lot of cases, outrightly lie to their viewers. The more people they bring in, the higher the money earned. Besides, why do some people blindly believe these streamers and whatever they promote. They’re being paid to promote such product or service; of course they’re going to do all they can to sell it to their fan base which includes misrepresenting a lot of things.
They know fully well that they’re lying to their followers but greed and selfishness has long taken over where responsibility and dignity once were. They only care about being paid and could care less about their followers who took their word for it.

I saw most of them in the reels on Facebook and it seems like they are even making huge lies in their promotions by showing their viewers how easy to win the games they are promoting and they don't seem to care about their audience as long as they spread their lies everything was going on a plan for them. they don't even know the huge risk they are getting as well and also they are making huge mistakes when they fool their viewers because it will fire back to them with double the amount and interest, they get the real karma and this is what happened to those who fool their viewers, they are the one who gets affected with their lies.

Some people has zero idea about something but because others are doing, they will want to follow the same path not knowing that some people are doing it for the passion and not the money but they are few though but we have them. Now, when they now start and it doesn't go as they expect, they make loss, they are stuck on that evidence to make back th money, they try and try and in that process addiction kicks in, the game becomes normal until they start to lose. This addiction stage is one of the most dangerous stage of gambling, have seen a guy I know took his own life because of a mistake he made gambling.

I don't know for others but I have seen life so tough and I don't think I can take my life for anything, it's not worth it, even if I don't have the money of the world, I cherish the small moments I have shared with my love ones and how I will put them in a lot of pain if I die prematurely.

There are so many news that are flying everywhere about people committing suicide which is very wrong.
We need to make always advise people around of the need to gambling education just like the way you implies. There are people that are very emotional little things could make them to keep thinking on what to do especially at a time when things are not going right. Some are very fragile and take decision based on their emotions and if we are not serious to help them, they could do something that would create more severe  to themselves without realizing the later consequences.

That's not going to happen, casinos often pay such streamers for promoting their services, it's easy to suppose that a large number of his fan base has an account there. As others already mentioned here as well as on Reddit, whether these streamers admit it or not, they're unbiasedly promoting gambling and casinos as a mean to make money, and this isn't surprising because it's literally immature youths posing that it's totally normal to be a gambling addict.

His response was also the cherry on top of the cake, how can someone be so apathetic towards the death of one of his fans? This proves that he only sees numbers, not people.Totally not okay.

Yeah, I think you make some fair points.  From what I have seen, a lot of these streamers are not exactly truthful when it comes to that gambling stuff they do on screen and  they act like they are playing with real cash, but it turns out that is not true.  And getting kids hooked on gambling? That just isnt right.  Still I get that its a tricky thing to figure out how to handle.  But that gambling trap can ruin lives, no doubt, so we gotta think about some kind of guardrails.  I dunno what the perfect solution is, but clearly there is more nuance here than just a blanket ban or leaving it all be.

The alarming rise of celebrity gambling promotion, often targeting impressionable young audiences.  Imagine a charismatic influencer encouraging viewers to gamble, unaware of the potential consequences.

The lack of empathy displayed by some celebrities, like Adin Ross in the story, is particularly disturbing.  Focusing solely on financial gain while ignoring the potential for addiction and its tragic outcomes is a clear sign of misplaced priorities.

The emotional and financial vulnerability of young viewers is a crucial factor.  They might be easily swayed by celebrity endorsements, entering the gambling world without the maturity or self-control to navigate its risks responsibly.

Yes I agree with you that indeed some cases due to gambling is not a thing that always happens because it is an activity that is perivasi because the public's perspective on gambling is very negative along with more countries that do not legalize this activity so people prefer to be closed, about providing education to the public about gambling is good especially giving them an understanding that gambling is not a place to earn, but I think this idea has the potential to make people curious about something that is prohibited and maybe those who are too curious will try it.

Each person has a different mindset in responding to a problem and maybe those who choose to commit suicide due to the many defeats in gambling are typical of people who are too easily provoked or sensitive people who are easily emotional where they are really difficult to control themselves when experiencing something that is not in accordance with their expectations. As for what you're suggesting, yes it might be useful to reduce the likelihood of a gambler committing suicide due to gambling, but I don't think it will have much of an effect because as you said, there will be some gamblers who are completely introverted which means they probably wouldn't think of joining a support group or rehabilitation in secret.

That's sad; another gambler lost his life due to gambling addiction. The image of gambling is getting worse because of this news. As for other people, gambling actually helps because, for others, it not only gives stress relief but also gives fun.

Just don't let us overdo it with gambling, because when it's not controlled, we develop an addiction that other gamblers don't realize. But I hope other streamers will also be responsible because they are also the reason why other viewers can gamble because of their promotion, which is also mixed with creativity.

Yes, indeed all problems that occur have a solution, and if we can try well then there will be a solution even though the problem is big. but it cannot be denied that every person's mentality is different, there are people who have just been scolded a little and are already crying and there are those who are mentally strong, the same is with gambling. when the gambling is done excessively so that it causes bad effects which become excessive pressure which makes them mentally torment themselves, but it is their own doing then in my opinion it should be accepted, because if you dare to do something then you have to dare to take responsibility.

Doing research first can be done if we really have good thoughts, such as considering the actions we will take and seeing what ourselves would be like if we faced something related to defeat and victory, with gambling which will most likely only result in defeat. We have to be able to accept that well, because there are many cases of people who experience big losses because they cannot accept the reality that occurs, such as defeat which is clearly something that is bound to happen when gambling is done.

This is not an event that happened on daily basis and most of the time just an isolated case. There’s no need for a proper education on gambling because it’s not a usual things that people do. Many people that living normally doesn’t involve on gambling while introducing it in the form of education might give them an idea to gamble instead of being innocent about it.

We can’t control every people mind to avoid committing suicide because we can’t watch them 24/7. I think having a support group that is accessible to everyone with discreet feature might reduce an incident like this because people that commit suicide is typically alone and no one support him to unload his problem