You have a point, but there's a reason people don't read ToS: they're extremely long and often written in a rather technical language, which normally people can't fully understand.
Moreover, sometimes you can read all of it but there still will be some misunderstanding. For instance, regarding KYC verification. The owners can indicate in ToS that it will be required, plus what exactly is required (e.g. full address, ID photo, etc.), but what they don't tell you is that your photo must be of super high quality, your address must be indicated on an official document, but they can accidentally extract the wrong address, and sometimes it may take you >5 attempts to submit it and pass the verification. So reading ToS wouldn't help you in such a case.
I still think it's better to read it, but I don't blame people who don't, and I think reading reviews and looking at a reputation, in general, is more representative and helpful.
Topic: Terms and condition a must read before signing up any online gambling site - page 10. (Read 2265 times)
June 29, 2021, 04:30:22 PM
June 29, 2021, 04:20:00 PM
This is really important if you will gamble a large amount on that platform. Knowing your rights as a user will protect you incase they lock your account for some unknown reason and also for you to help avoid some violations. Some websites lock their user's account when they see that you win a huge amount, they will ask you something that will expose your privacy. Even if you submit a legal document they want, they still won't verify your account to withraw your profit from their platform.
That's the only way you can access or register their site though, by accepting their terms and conditions. To me it's futile to read it because they're all just the same, kind of like if you've read one of them, you have read them all.
June 29, 2021, 04:06:36 PM
Many casinos use TOS to harm customers, for example:
the person creates an account, the person makes a deposit of 10 BTC, and loses all bitcoin
the next day the person deposits 20 BTC and lost everything
the next day the person deposits 5 BTC and wins 20 BTC, when withdrawing money the casino will ask the person to do KYC and use TOS to block the person's funds.
this example I gave has happened a lot in recent years
the person creates an account, the person makes a deposit of 10 BTC, and loses all bitcoin
the next day the person deposits 20 BTC and lost everything
the next day the person deposits 5 BTC and wins 20 BTC, when withdrawing money the casino will ask the person to do KYC and use TOS to block the person's funds.
this example I gave has happened a lot in recent years
June 29, 2021, 03:16:34 PM
Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
I admit that I'm one of those who skip the T&Csmost of the time especially if it's too long. However, the company should also consider the convenience of its users without asking or demanding for personal information just to pass the KYC. They should also try to keep their users. That's actually the reason why I always check for the legitimacy of every site that I'm using.
Im not really fan of it since those long text are way too time consuming on reading up.I know the risk is there since you dont know actually the rules or their terms but based
up also on what you had said that i would just simply stick out to the reputable or known ones which you can already presume that they would really be good into their service.
Honestly, this is a must thing to be done on where you should be reading up ToS but im much sure that not all would be having this kind of behavior.
June 29, 2021, 03:04:50 PM
A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites
Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
Well, reading terms and conditions is the most important part while choosing a new crypto casino. I would like to identify few very important points that one must read,
1. KYC requirements
2. If joining bonus is offered then wagering requirements
3. List of banned countries
These are the most important points to read in terms and conditions. If not clear, go ahead and ask their support team or head to bitcointalk forum ANN thread to see other's experience.
June 29, 2021, 01:29:24 PM
A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites
Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
Well, reading terms and conditions is the most important part while choosing a new crypto casino. I would like to identify few very important points that one must read,
1. KYC requirements
2. If joining bonus is offered then wagering requirements
3. List of banned countries
These are the most important points to read in terms and conditions. If not clear, go ahead and ask their support team or head to bitcointalk forum ANN thread to see other's experience.
June 29, 2021, 01:17:42 PM
Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
I admit that I'm one of those who skip the T&Csmost of the time especially if it's too long. However, the company should also consider the convenience of its users without asking or demanding for personal information just to pass the KYC. They should also try to keep their users. That's actually the reason why I always check for the legitimacy of every site that I'm using.
June 29, 2021, 12:46:20 PM
Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
I admit that I'm one of those who skip the T&Csmost of the time especially if it's too long. However, the company should also consider the convenience of its users without asking or demanding for personal information just to pass the KYC. They should also try to keep their users. That's actually the reason why I always check for the legitimacy of every site that I'm using.
June 29, 2021, 11:30:38 AM
Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.
June 29, 2021, 11:18:12 AM
First of all gambling is not an occupation so no one ever consider it as their source of income, its just another way to make money but you can't survive in this world from the winning bets alone.
It can be an occupation but it's not recommended since the amount of gamblers that makes profit for a living is very small. Yes, it is very important to read the terms of their service especially about the VPN usage and one household per IP so that no one will get into a stage of frustration. Also make sure that the casino you are going to gamble accepts the players from your country because some casinos restricted players from certain countries which vaires from one casino to another.
Most casinos rarely mentions the usage of VPN since it's most likely prohibited but some of them have very relaxed rules where you could get away with using a VPN for quite some time so it's always best to approach the support first if you're going to use it on their site.In terms some casinos mentioned about the usage of VPN or else we can simply ask them via support or even Bitcointalk ANN thread so we can get quicker response possibly.
June 29, 2021, 06:00:45 AM
A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites
Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
If you are not aware of reading the Terms of Service first before playing then never expect to be safe in your playing.
I don't blame them for losing their money but i blame them for being Weak and lazy to read and understand the rules first before putting their money at risk.
June 29, 2021, 05:50:55 AM
The problem is that often these texts can be very long, so it's hard to actually put yourself to reading all of it. But not reading at all is definitely too risky. I think that if a person is not willing to read all of it, the following things should be searched for and read: KYC policy, restricted countries, minimum/maximum deposit/withdrawal, rules (like no multi-accounting, perhaps no VPN and stuff like that). Also, if one's interested in bonuses, the wager requirements and other related conditions should be read.
You're right that this topic deserves attention. It seems to me that people often have negative experience because of being unfamiliar with the terms.
You're right that this topic deserves attention. It seems to me that people often have negative experience because of being unfamiliar with the terms.
You are right.
I personally think it should be illegal to write such a long text ! They know no one has time to sit down and read pages. It can very well be made short! They use this trick to get people just sign up without any idea what they are getting into.
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Great point! I would limit the number of characters in Terms and Conditions to a readable amount, and force it through legislation. Really, we all know that no one reads those T&C exactly because of the length, but, of course it's always better for us to read it.
June 29, 2021, 05:28:38 AM
This is really important if you will gamble a large amount on that platform. Knowing your rights as a user will protect you incase they lock your account for some unknown reason and also for you to help avoid some violations. Some websites lock their user's account when they see that you win a huge amount, they will ask you something that will expose your privacy. Even if you submit a legal document they want, they still won't verify your account to withraw your profit from their platform.
That's the only way you can access or register their site though, by accepting their terms and conditions. To me it's futile to read it because they're all just the same, kind of like if you've read one of them, you have read them all. June 29, 2021, 05:28:09 AM
Most times I wonder how the expect their customers to read those lengthy posts before accepting it. For me I don't even bother going through it's content I just click on accept and if after using their services for a while and I don't feel comfortable with their services I quit and move on to another site but I know it's better to stick to one but most of this online casinos behave funny to their clients atimes
June 29, 2021, 05:16:05 AM
First of all gambling is not an occupation so no one ever consider it as their source of income, its just another way to make money but you can't survive in this world from the winning bets alone.
It can be an occupation but it's not recommended since the amount of gamblers that makes profit for a living is very small. Yes, it is very important to read the terms of their service especially about the VPN usage and one household per IP so that no one will get into a stage of frustration. Also make sure that the casino you are going to gamble accepts the players from your country because some casinos restricted players from certain countries which vaires from one casino to another.
Most casinos rarely mentions the usage of VPN since it's most likely prohibited but some of them have very relaxed rules where you could get away with using a VPN for quite some time so it's always best to approach the support first if you're going to use it on their site. June 29, 2021, 02:47:30 AM
To be honest, I think Terms and Conditions aren't for the users because if it was then probably we should've be able to not agree to it, I think they are there so the site removes their liability in case something happens to the users so even if you were to read it, you don't have that much choice unless you have the patience to find one where the Terms and Conditions are favorable to you but in my experience, most of them are the using the same.
June 29, 2021, 02:21:48 AM
Whether it is a trading platform, gambling platform or something else. It is a must to go through the terms and conditions page, but one out of thousand will do this. Most of the users while signing up just agree and complete the registration. When there arises some issue with the withdrawal or fund transfer people gets response citing the terms and conditions from the support team. By that time people realise the mistake and that time things might've gone out of their hands.
Exactly, the website will be the one liable if they don't present their terms and conditions to their potential users. Remember that even if they say in video that they don't collect your data, they still do it no matter what because they need to customize what you are seeing in their platform.Reading the TOS is important if we are new to a casino. Knowing in which jurisdiction they operate and what our rights are is important too. But we need do be aware that with Internet companies it can be very difficult in case of a dispute. Knowing that we are in the right and casino is wrong, doesn't mean we will immediately get our money back. The enforcement of our rights can take years with companies operating from overseas.
June 29, 2021, 02:30:05 AM
A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites
Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
First of all gambling is not an occupation so no one ever consider it as their source of income, its just another way to make money but you can't survive in this world from the winning bets alone.Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.
Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
Yes, it is very important to read the terms of their service especially about the VPN usage and one household per IP so that no one will get into a stage of frustration. Also make sure that the casino you are going to gamble accepts the players from your country because some casinos restricted players from certain countries which vaires from one casino to another.
June 29, 2021, 01:51:36 AM
Whether it is a trading platform, gambling platform or something else. It is a must to go through the terms and conditions page, but one out of thousand will do this. Most of the users while signing up just agree and complete the registration. When there arises some issue with the withdrawal or fund transfer people gets response citing the terms and conditions from the support team. By that time people realise the mistake and that time things might've gone out of their hands.
Exactly, the website will be the one liable if they don't present their terms and conditions to their potential users. Remember that even if they say in video that they don't collect your data, they still do it no matter what because they need to customize what you are seeing in their platform. June 29, 2021, 01:31:16 AM
This is really important if you will gamble a large amount on that platform. Knowing your rights as a user will protect you incase they lock your account for some unknown reason and also for you to help avoid some violations. Some websites lock their user's account when they see that you win a huge amount, they will ask you something that will expose your privacy. Even if you submit a legal document they want, they still won't verify your account to withraw your profit from their platform.
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