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Quote from: Betwrong on July 01, 2021, 06:18:12 AM

Yeah, but, I mean, do you really read them? You'd be like the first person I've ever seen who's reading T&C "at least once in a month".

Yes, it's very important, but with that many words to read only a few people can do that. A good solution would be limiting the number of words in T&C by law, which was discussed earlier in this thread.

Actually it is very important to read the terms and condition of every gambling site that you are going to join in but honestly speaking I am one of those people who used to skipped to read some information written in the T&C. I know that every details written in the Terms and Condition has a significance but to much too be read I mean I bet that some or many of us skipped many words specified in it. It is boring to read such T&C composed of how many number of Terms and a lot of words that sometime you may not really understand why it is written here.

Exactly. Some people even think that that many words are there with the malevolent purpose of confusing you. I can't blame them, it indeed looks like that: too many words, very small letters. People have been complaining for decades about T&C's unreadability. Since the world is changing for better overall, I'm sure this situation will change in the future as well.

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Quote from: hahay on July 01, 2021, 09:41:46 AM

For those who gamble in large amounts and are really looking for profit in gambling, then of course reading all the terms and conditions is a priority before making a deposit. But for mediocre players who are just looking for fun and making deposits with money ready to lose, I think reading those things can be put aside first and this is what I usually did in the past and it's proven, I've never had problems with withdrawals. Although sometimes I get problems like account frozen etc, in the end the problem can still be solved as long as we are on the right track and maybe it depends on the service they have too, so be careful.

I get the feeling that reading all the long terms of a casino must be a boring process but I still feel that even you are gambling small amounts, you must read the terms and conditions. It takes a few big hits when you jump from being a small player to hitting the high roller's tab and if you haven't read the terms, you might be forced to verify your identity which depending on the individual can be problematic.

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Quote from: RapTarX on July 01, 2021, 09:44:17 AM

Who reads? I guess not even 1% read the terms and conditions. However, I would put more importance on reading reviews everywhere before reading terms and conditions. Sometimes, casino follows the fair play and allow withdraw even if some users by chance break any of their rules. While, some other casino just look for faults to seize the fund.
So, it’s important to know how they handle issue than what terms and conditions. Apart from that, most of the terms and conditions are same as other casino.

Yeah maybe even less than 1% actually if a survey is conducted because like seriously who has the time in the world to read all those useless statements and actually 50% of the terms mostly are irrelevant but just a few points are what matters. Recently BTCGOSU removed bitsler because of their term where they have mentioned that if a player doesn't login for 6-months, they will close the accounts and any funds will be gone.

Well, just because the terms and conditions ^[TOS] is the longest paragraphs that you will read and nobody will care to read it. Perhaps the frequently asked question ^[FAQ] is the most common page that usually visits just like me. But as a matter of fact, this is the most very important thing to read before signing up on the site, because you will never know what are those guidelines on the site and what are those don't and dos on the site that you must avoid.

Presumably those guidelines would really be having those common line of text whenever you do check it from time to time or tend to read up but of course there might be some differences
but not really that much because it would only might differ on country restriction or they do set out some KYC for you to comply which would really suck if you do encounter it later
on and wasnt expecting for that to happen and just because you had missed on reading it up then it would really be a big problem.
Terms and condition should really be read up but we know that almost 100% will just simply skip out and wont tend to do so.

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Quote from: jostorres on July 03, 2021, 04:31:39 PM

Quote from: RapTarX on July 01, 2021, 09:44:17 AM

Who reads? I guess not even 1% read the terms and conditions. However, I would put more importance on reading reviews everywhere before reading terms and conditions. Sometimes, casino follows the fair play and allow withdraw even if some users by chance break any of their rules. While, some other casino just look for faults to seize the fund.
So, it’s important to know how they handle issue than what terms and conditions. Apart from that, most of the terms and conditions are same as other casino.

Yeah maybe even less than 1% actually if a survey is conducted because like seriously who has the time in the world to read all those useless statements and actually 50% of the terms mostly are irrelevant but just a few points are what matters. Recently BTCGOSU removed bitsler because of their term where they have mentioned that if a player doesn't login for 6-months, they will close the accounts and any funds will be gone.

Well, just because the terms and conditions ^[TOS] is the longest paragraphs that you will read and nobody will care to read it. Perhaps the frequently asked question ^[FAQ] is the most common page that usually visits just like me. But as a matter of fact, this is the most very important thing to read before signing up on the site, because you will never know what are those guidelines on the site and what are those don't and dos on the site that you must avoid.

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Quote from: RapTarX on July 01, 2021, 09:44:17 AM

Who reads? I guess not even 1% read the terms and conditions. However, I would put more importance on reading reviews everywhere before reading terms and conditions. Sometimes, casino follows the fair play and allow withdraw even if some users by chance break any of their rules. While, some other casino just look for faults to seize the fund.
So, it’s important to know how they handle issue than what terms and conditions. Apart from that, most of the terms and conditions are same as other casino.

Yeah maybe even less than 1% actually if a survey is conducted because like seriously who has the time in the world to read all those useless statements and actually 50% of the terms mostly are irrelevant but just a few points are what matters. Recently BTCGOSU removed bitsler because of their term where they have mentioned that if a player doesn't login for 6-months, they will close the accounts and any funds will be gone.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 03, 2021, 10:23:46 AM

Quote from: owengtam09 on July 02, 2021, 12:44:53 PM

I am lazy of reading a lot of Terms and Conditions not just only to online gambling sites but most apps that need to install or download, they have Terms and Conditions that I don't like to read, I just accept and click the next button. 😂 but you are right we must read the Terms and Conditions especially in gambling, additionally, some gambling sites change their rules over time. So let's make it a habit to read.

Very possible, you need to make sure that you are well updated with all those house rules, it might harm you in the long run especially when your account being tag doing suspicious activities,

If you know the house rules you can simply defend your account by stating all those you understand from their terms and conditions.

Better to always make it a habit to understand aside from reading those long narrative house rules, never to skip if you plan to stay and

use the service of that particular house.

I think if you use serious and legit online casinos you won't have any issues under normal circumstances. I mean all the good and reliable casinos pretty much have the same terms and conditions. If there is any hidden stuff such that out of thin air they freeze your account, I probably wouldn't use them again anyway.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on July 02, 2021, 12:44:53 PM

I am lazy of reading a lot of Terms and Conditions not just only to online gambling sites but most apps that need to install or download, they have Terms and Conditions that I don't like to read, I just accept and click the next button. 😂 but you are right we must read the Terms and Conditions especially in gambling, additionally, some gambling sites change their rules over time. So let's make it a habit to read.

Very possible, you need to make sure that you are well updated with all those house rules, it might harm you in the long run especially when your account being tag doing suspicious activities,

If you know the house rules you can simply defend your account by stating all those you understand from their terms and conditions.

Better to always make it a habit to understand aside from reading those long narrative house rules, never to skip if you plan to stay and

use the service of that particular house.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on July 02, 2021, 12:44:53 PM

I am lazy of reading a lot of Terms and Conditions not just only to online gambling sites but most apps that need to install or download, they have Terms and Conditions that I don't like to read, I just accept and click the next button. ?? but you are right we must read the Terms and Conditions especially in gambling, additionally, some gambling sites change their rules over time. So let's make it a habit to read.

Im guilty with this one too.

Whenever i do see those terms and conditions and you would need to tick out that "I agree" tick box then i do just simply click that and wont tend to read up a very long pile of text which i do believe that
majority is really having the same behavior.

For someone who do play with small amount or just simply come and go with different gambling sites then they arent really minding much because just like other members said that terms are almost
the same to each other or anytime.

Important thing is that you do deal with the legit site or platform because you can somewhat have that assured feeling.

In this instance I never used to read the Terms and Conditions, but for a long time if I have to read them, when you are in a country that is very likely prohibited, it is necessary to read to avoid having a bad time. In fact, in many topics in the Gambling section, many players will enter complaining about the site because they cannot make their withdrawal of earnings, and it is because of the VPN issue, some refuse to give KYC and others give it and reject it, I think that in the T&C if they are read it would avoid many bad times. I am one of those who think that licenses should not limit people from other countries, everyone has the right to play regardless of the country of origin, that they limit them for purely political issues, casinos and crypto should really skip these demands.

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There is reason why terms and conditions exist in these gambling sites in the first place, and there is also a purpose why it signed by players through the question of agreement. By agreeing in such, rules and regulations must be applied and complied with throughout the entire game experience. But many fails to do so, and the bunch of ranting and posts of regret are proofs of this. I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to be read upon signing up, notwithstanding that the status of money and progress is at stake upon one’s understanding of game terms and conditions.

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It is very important that everyone should read the terms and conditions in order to know which is to avoid. The ones I mostly noticed is that the accusations made by people are because their account is blocked, banned or something like that and then they the advice they get is they should read the terms and conditions of the site before gambling. Some gambling sites ask KYC when withdrawing and didn't ask for KYC when registering an account.

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Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2021, 11:55:23 AM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on July 01, 2021, 05:39:16 PM

Reading up terms is a must but if you are really get bored on doing that then always seek just on the highlights or most important details.

It will be the important thing that gamblers must know before they end up gambling. If they can not withdraw because of a little mistake, that will make them regret it. Besides that, if they already read about the other gamblers mistakes, I think they will try to avoid that and make sure that they will not break the rules. Maybe the casino will change some rules based on the conditions, but the gamblers must follow every rule from the casino.

People don't realize that agreeing to some online casino's Terms & Conditions is the same as signing a piece of paper without reading what was written on it. I hope we all understand and realize how dangerous it could be signing a paper without reading, equally if not more risky is signing up to a casino without actually reading everything the casino has in their Terms & Conditions.

It takes hardly 15-20 mins to read all the Terms & Conditions roughly and if some point you feel has a trick or some kind of error which might trouble you later, take more time and read it carefully. It's your money and you cannot do much if you agreed to some exploitative conditions while signing up o the casino.

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The ToS is like a contract between you and the service you want to use. You have to read it all to know your rights and your obligations. Ticking the "I have read and agree to the ToS" box before registration is the same as signing a contract.
If you ignore it and don't read it because it's too long then you should not complain when the service bans your account and seizes your funds because you've unintentionally broke one of the rules stated in the ToS.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on July 02, 2021, 12:44:53 PM

I am lazy of reading a lot of Terms and Conditions not just only to online gambling sites but most apps that need to install or download, they have Terms and Conditions that I don't like to read, I just accept and click the next button. 😂 but you are right we must read the Terms and Conditions especially in gambling, additionally, some gambling sites change their rules over time. So let's make it a habit to read.

Im guilty with this one too.

Whenever i do see those terms and conditions and you would need to tick out that "I agree" tick box then i do just simply click that and wont tend to read up a very long pile of text which i do believe that
majority is really having the same behavior.

For someone who do play with small amount or just simply come and go with different gambling sites then they arent really minding much because just like other members said that terms are almost
the same to each other or anytime.

Important thing is that you do deal with the legit site or platform because you can somewhat have that assured feeling.

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I am lazy of reading a lot of Terms and Conditions not just only to online gambling sites but most apps that need to install or download, they have Terms and Conditions that I don't like to read, I just accept and click the next button. 😂 but you are right we must read the Terms and Conditions especially in gambling, additionally, some gambling sites change their rules over time. So let's make it a habit to read.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on July 01, 2021, 05:39:16 PM

Reading up terms is a must but if you are really get bored on doing that then always seek just on the highlights or most important details.

It will be the important thing that gamblers must know before they end up gambling. If they can not withdraw because of a little mistake, that will make them regret it. Besides that, if they already read about the other gamblers mistakes, I think they will try to avoid that and make sure that they will not break the rules. Maybe the casino will change some rules based on the conditions, but the gamblers must follow every rule from the casino.

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Most of the people around don't even bother to check what the Terms and Conditions contain and simply check the box and proceed with the registrations.
Well I am not saying that's the right way but yeah if we are talking about the rules and regulations and deposit/withdrawals of the site then we can easily find that in other review sites.
There are websites like BTCGOSU which provides reviews about various gambling sites and their promotions and offers.
They provide info on KYC and deposit/withdrawals as well and it is easier to check through this way since we can compare many gambling sites at once.

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Quote from: RapTarX on July 01, 2021, 09:44:17 AM

Who reads? I guess not even 1% read the terms and conditions. However, I would put more importance on reading reviews everywhere before reading terms and conditions. Sometimes, casino follows the fair play and allow withdraw even if some users by chance break any of their rules. While, some other casino just look for faults to seize the fund.
So, it’s important to know how they handle issue than what terms and conditions. Apart from that, most of the terms and conditions are same as other casino.

I personally prefer to read the T&C before using such a platform. However, as you said, I also admit that I don't read the whole T&C one by one word.
You may also know that sometimes, very long T&C sentences are very boring, and sometimes they are general information. However, we can do skimming for the T&C, because I am sure also that among those boring sentences, there is some important information to be known and understood before using the platform.
And actually to help our questions most about the platform, reading the FAQs is also helpful.

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Any terms and service agreement must be read WHOLLY no matter the industry/service/item/etc. that is. For instance, some gambling platforms offer promotions from time to time, and there are certain conditions to be met before any winnings or profits can be withdrawn. I am a victim of not reading the T&C when I was just starting to gamble, and oftentimes on dice sites with an ongoing promotion, I just go ham on wagering without realizing that I must do something else first before I activate the promotion and the bonuses accompanied with it. Ending, I spend hundreds of dollars without even getting any bonuses from my rolls, which sucks but it's on me.

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Quote from: michellee on July 01, 2021, 12:46:50 PM

Quote from: BIN-BIN on July 01, 2021, 10:58:29 AM

You are right, it’s good to read the terms and conditions of any contract before signing up for it, most users always look away from the terms of services and in the end call out the site for not allowing them to carry out some services. This has resulted in many issues in the gambling environment where some users cannot withdraw from the winning because of non-compliance with the platform terms and conditions.

That happens many times to many gamblers and it seems they do not learn from other people's mistakes or their mistakes. They tend to play gambling and do not try to know the rules of the casino. They will regret it when they want to withdraw their winning because they will see that the casino requires something before withdrawing the money.

Whenever you do already have the experience or typically had able to read up terms and conditions it turns out that majority will really be having the same and if we do try to observe then most of those pile of text would really be saying the same thing all over again.

There might be some alterations or changes in some specially on countries being prohibited or banned and the rest are just actually the same when it comes to violations like multi-accounts,
shady gambling acts or something like that.

Reading up terms is a must but if you are really get bored on doing that then always seek just on the highlights or most important details.

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Quote from: BIN-BIN on July 01, 2021, 10:58:29 AM

You are right, it’s good to read the terms and conditions of any contract before signing up for it, most users always look away from the terms of services and in the end call out the site for not allowing them to carry out some services. This has resulted in many issues in the gambling environment where some users cannot withdraw from the winning because of non-compliance with the platform terms and conditions.

That happens many times to many gamblers and it seems they do not learn from other people's mistakes or their mistakes. They tend to play gambling and do not try to know the rules of the casino. They will regret it when they want to withdraw their winning because they will see that the casino requires something before withdrawing the money.

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