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Topic: Terms and condition a must read before signing up any online gambling site - page 12. (Read 2267 times)

legendary
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Some of them also likes surprises, you'll never know their KYC unless you have a big amount of profits in your account and they will suddenly requires it just for you, like they will require a lot of personal informations for you to pass their KYC but in the end, they still won't let you withdraw it, which is infuriating.

It will be a big issue if suddenly they want to change their terms just so you cannot withdraw your earnings because it is a big amount, this is a big warning sign, and worthy to create an accusation thread in the scam section, that is why you should only play with big online casinos if you are going to deposit a huge amount because the big and highly reputable gambling site will let you withdraw and will not play dirty by immediately changing their rules, always get updated on any changes on their rules so you can change shift in your playing whether you want to continue playing or go for other casinos.
hero member
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It is always been our Obligation as gamblers/players to know whats the rules and i believe in everything that we will be entering has a need to read Terms and Conditions . or their rules.

though at first i am not a fan of reading TOS but eventually after many issues that i read in many gambling site then i put myself of checking every single details before i create accounts or at least deposit.
That is right. At least, we can prevent from making a mistake for deposit and withdraw the money and just in case we want to test the site and think that the site is good. By reading their Terms and Conditions, it will help us to know their rules.

What you did is right because we will not have a problem. Maybe that is the thing that every new gambler should do when they find a new gambling site from the outside. But if they find the site from here, I think they can read the reviews from the members to know more about the rules.
sr. member
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I agree.

But at some point, even though you missed or disregard reading their terms and conditions, some of gambling sites will pop up some notification that you can't deposit yet unless you're already passed the KYC requirements, if I'm not mistaken.

Some of them also likes surprises, you'll never know their KYC unless you have a big amount of profits in your account and they will suddenly requires it just for you, like they will require a lot of personal informations for you to pass their KYC but in the end, they still won't let you withdraw it, which is infuriating.
legendary
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites
The terms of service are very long and this makes people no to be reading it, but not reading it is just carelessness because their are some gambling sites that may have terms that punters may not like, like taxing and some other terms which some people can hate and not use such gambling site due to one or two unfavorable terms.

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
Before the onset of online gambling, gambling has been a business offline in which such gambling offline casinos pay taxes and up till now, but gambling are getting more income than before, there are now more gambling sites, while more people are joining to gamble, but it has been a business since long time ago.

But anyway just a reminder to only gamble the money that is not meant for important things, we know gambling is risky and no guarantee to grow our money.
There is nothing right more than this, gambling with the money we can afford to lose because we can actually lose the money while gambling.
hero member
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There are many casinos existing nowadays and they have their own promos and bonuses offered so gamblers would stay and keep on playing on their sites. This is one of the reason why some of us ignore reading the TOS before playing since we are not certain if we will stick to that particular casino.

Its really a must to do some research first and read their TOS to understand the rules specially when it comes to withdrawal to avoid having issues later on. I often do this before playing but it doesnt mean I am going to stay because it will depend on my experience and how convenient the site is.

But anyway just a reminder to only gamble the money that is not meant for important things, we know gambling is risky and no guarantee to grow our money.
hero member
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Most gamblers ignore reading TOS since they assume most reputable gambling site don't have complicated TOS and doesn't require KYC. However, this can change depending on the platform. You will read posts here that accounts and funds are frozen without knowing they have violated TOS since they haven't read it on the first place. To avoid such inconvenience or putting your account and funds at risk, spend time reading TOS before agreeing and signing up.
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No one can prevent the gamblers from investing in the bankroll for the casino for its allowed and they earn through it that is why they considered it a money generating platform as sort of an income. We have seen investor's reviews about these casinos, it's perfect as it's low risk. We know the odds are always in favour of the house. but then of course read the terms and conditions, sometimes they change it.

legendary
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First and foremost, gambling shouldn't be treated as a source of income. Treating gambling as a source of income would be one of the biggest mistake any gambler could commit. It is a perfect recipe for bankruptcy. Quite the contrary, gambling should be treated as a way to waste your income. ~

Absolutely right. Players able to ensure a life by earning money in the casino are few, but many of us still try to comprehend this wisdom and lose their last funds but still do not get the desired experience. The work should not have such high risks and the casino should be visited only for the enjoyment of the game itself.
sr. member
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The problem is that often these texts can be very long, so it's hard to actually put yourself to reading all of it. But not reading at all is definitely too risky. I think that if a person is not willing to read all of it, the following things should be searched for and read: KYC policy, restricted countries, minimum/maximum deposit/withdrawal, rules (like no multi-accounting, perhaps no VPN and stuff like that). Also, if one's interested in bonuses, the wager requirements and other related conditions should be read.
You're right that this topic deserves attention. It seems to me that people often have negative experience because of being unfamiliar with the terms.
Sometimes it isn't even mentioned in terms and conditions while the casino would come up with a story that it was self-understood that using a VPN was not allowed while some casinos, namely stake, allows the use of VPN since it protects the identity of the player.

Play at a reputed and well known casino and you should not have too many hiccups on your way to cashing the profits.
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It is always been our Obligation as gamblers/players to know whats the rules and i believe in everything that we will be entering has a need to read Terms and Conditions . or their rules.

though at first i am not a fan of reading TOS but eventually after many issues that i read in many gambling site then i put myself of checking every single details before i create accounts or at least deposit.
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legendary
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Nobody reads the T&C because nobody is really sure they will keep on using a site after the first time they sign up to look at it.   I certainly would recommend reading the T&C before putting any larger amounts on that site because of the problem it can be one way in allowing deposits but raising objections when it comes to withdrawal.   Most people know about bonus deposits and qualifying in terms of betting volume before being allowed to take it back out, obviously you cant just deposit and get 30% extra then pull it back out but there's more complexity to T&C that shouldn't require me to pass the Bar exam to qualify as a legitimate customer.
  I've definitely had the problem of depositing and using a site tons, they wanted my driving license to withdraw anything then later said it wasn't enough and wanted the original birth certificate to be provided to their address internationally.   After that they disappeared in an exit scam when the market went through its next cycle and they were doing less business, this isn't a rare thing.  The site I used was a sponsor of tier 1 teams at least briefly but weren't a long term operation.  I was fortunate in that I hedged my bets and gained a balance elsewhere by betting against bets I took on the site that had refused my withdrawal but I still lost some.    I'm really not keen on overly high fees that occur to withdraw for that reason.
sr. member
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our habit is lazy to read T&C Cheesy

I do this when I want to try a new gambling site, because the site may suggest KYC for withdrawals or make a minimum withdrawal. reading the terms of service is very important and should not be missed.
That's how it was written, to not be read by the users so they can get their consent, have you ever wondered why they use that kind of language? That's because they want to make sure that you get bored and they can slip some terms that is disadvantageous to you. If you have the patience then good for you because you know what you're going to get. Also, a lot of T and Cs is your gateway to accessing the website so in the end it doesn't matter if you've read it or not.
legendary
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First and foremost, gambling shouldn't be treated as a source of income. Treating gambling as a source of income would be one of the biggest mistake any gambler could commit. It is a perfect recipe for bankruptcy. Quite the contrary, gambling should be treated as a way to waste your income.

Secondly, it is unusual for an ordinary gambler to read all the site's terms and conditions before finally opening an account and making a deposit. While it is advisable to do exactly that, I understand if people just proceed ticking on the I read and understand box and create an account. But in lieu of going through detail by detail a gambling site's ToS, I guess it is enough to read client-based reviews.
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Generally, it's already a basic rule of thumb nowadays to always read the Terms and Service, not just in gambling site but to other sites as well.

But for me, on some gambing sites, I admit I rarely read the TOS especially if the site was already built their name. That's I called I played on that site because of self-reviews by their users.

I only read TOS on new sites especially the section about Know-Your-Customer, using Virtual Proxy Network and prohibited regions.
sr. member
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But if one player agrees to play in a particular gambling site, those terms of services shall be followed as the site has the rights to control your withdrawals and can not fully access the site.  

Some gambling site doesnt force you to do some KYC but I know one site that has benefits if you do some KYC for both players and site owners. As those bonuses increases when you do KYC for players. On the other their side it is for assurance that player will not abuse the site system and making sure the player is not underage.
hero member
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Usually, we just sign up and just go whatever the terms are. But if you're a meticulous person and you're hearing some not so good reviews to that casino that you're about to sign up then you'll have to read those important parts of the TAC that casino has.
And mostly, we're looking to the withdrawal option and the KYC if they're requiring it as per sign up each person or they have some limits for withdrawal despite no need to comply to KYC.
hero member
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I guess 99% (if not 100%) of people don't fully agree with the terms that the casino provides but finally, when you want to gamble, there is no other choice but to agree with the offered terms.
So, most crypto casinos share the same Terms & Conditions and Curacao license. But what happens now? Now people should start to look at whether this or that casino easily asks for KYC in certain cases. If the user finds that casino A doesn't ask for KYC when you win and doesn't really ask if there isn't anything suspicious, then the user will stick with casino A, especially if it has good promotions and bonuses.
Luckily, there are really a lot of good casinos out there that really match the criteria of my casino A example.
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites


Not only reading it and accepting it after sign up, but you should check for any update about their terms of condition, this is very important you should follow and check if there are new updates you can do it by subscribing to their newsletter or channels if you are betting heavily on one casino, you should fully be acquainted of their status, if they are still legit and if they are still a non KYC and will let you withdraw a big amount, if ever you won a big amount, you should consider this scenario.
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our habit is lazy to read T&C Cheesy

I do this when I want to try a new gambling site, because the site may suggest KYC for withdrawals or make a minimum withdrawal. reading the terms of service is very important and should not be missed.
sr. member
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check

Every gambler has the responsibility to check every terms and conditions, this is very important so they'll avoid serious circumstances when there's changes made. Losing fund through the site rule implementation is disappointing, so I am advising all those who haven't withdrawn their tokens earned to do it now. We need to secure funds before anything else happens, one example is the maintenance of gambling site which is really a potential problem that's going to exist.
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