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You are right, it’s good to read the terms and conditions of any contract before signing up for it, most users always look away from the terms of services and in the end call out the site for not allowing them to carry out some services. This has resulted in many issues in the gambling environment where some users cannot withdraw from the winning because of non-compliance with the platform terms and conditions.
legendary
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Who reads? I guess not even 1% read the terms and conditions. However, I would put more importance on reading reviews everywhere before reading terms and conditions. Sometimes, casino follows the fair play and allow withdraw even if some users by chance break any of their rules. While, some other casino just look for faults to seize the fund.
So, it’s important to know how they handle issue than what terms and conditions. Apart from that, most of the terms and conditions are same as other casino.
Lots of gambler give a look into T&C page before making deposits at any new casino. And I believe the amount is more than 1%. It's better to choose old reputable casino for gambling. Those casino always have some common rules in their T&C. Popular gambling sites don't want to make complicated rules for their gambler. They also process the withdrawal if gambler doesn't break any strick rules. But occasionally they have to follow some conditions of their license provider. Checking the reviews might not be helpful always. Cause lots of review making sites give fake reviews for money.
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There are a lot of people today finds out a gambling platform and if they saw some bonuses they keep trying to register without having thinking the priority of reading the terms and condition also with the FAQ this is the most important part not all the time we need to just see the box with checked box and click the I agree on the button. This might risk your funds because you can not fully understand the rules of their platform.

This might be a good tip to the newbies who want to join the different platforms of gambling. Well, most people don't want to read tons of words unless they need really is because of their curiosity.
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I don't know why you still have make this post in the gambling section. I bet everyone is already aware of all that. I just want to add that some of the terms and conditions changes over time and it can happen long after you signed up. There are also cases when casinos made sudden changes after they were accused of something.

Well the problem with most terms and conditions is that they are worded very vaguely to the point that it conceals the true intention of the message. Another thing, most terms and conditions come with long paragraphs that are a chore to read. But I do think that it is worth the hassle and the stress of reading such terms compared to facing unprecedented conflict and issues with payments.

I think that there must be an innovation that could be implemented in showing the terms and conditions. Instead of concealing its messages in long paragraphs, gambling websites can make it short but concise. In this way, not only does it exert professionalism but it also gives security to the gamblers that the website is genuine compared to others.
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Who reads? I guess not even 1% read the terms and conditions. However, I would put more importance on reading reviews everywhere before reading terms and conditions. Sometimes, casino follows the fair play and allow withdraw even if some users by chance break any of their rules. While, some other casino just look for faults to seize the fund.
So, it’s important to know how they handle issue than what terms and conditions. Apart from that, most of the terms and conditions are same as other casino.
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For those who gamble in large amounts and are really looking for profit in gambling, then of course reading all the terms and conditions is a priority before making a deposit. But for mediocre players who are just looking for fun and making deposits with money ready to lose, I think reading those things can be put aside first and this is what I usually did in the past and it's proven, I've never had problems with withdrawals. Although sometimes I get problems like account frozen etc, in the end the problem can still be solved as long as we are on the right track and maybe it depends on the service they have too, so be careful.
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Yeah, but, I mean, do you really read them? You'd be like the first person I've ever seen who's reading T&C "at least once in a month".

Yes, it's very important, but with that many words to read only a few people can do that. A good solution would be limiting the number of words in T&C by law, which was discussed earlier in this thread.

Actually it is very important to read the terms and condition of every gambling site that you are going to join in but honestly speaking I am one of those people who used to skipped to read some information written in the T&C. I know that every details written in the Terms and Condition has a significance but to much too be read I mean I bet that some or many of us skipped many words specified in it. It is boring to read such T&C composed of how many number of Terms and a lot of words that sometime you may not really understand why it is written here.
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Your intention is indeed Best mate but let's admit the reality here mate that T&C is a trap , actually gambling site use this as hiding place to take advantage of their gamblers , I know that not all of them but the truth is? by chance they already Knew these things but not even making action to Help players understand easily the terms .
This is quite a worrying thing because many gamblers are trapped
reading T&C is boring but it's very important

we have to get used to ourselves every time we want to try a gambling site we have to read the T&C first
if not then the regret at the end is just in vain
legendary
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To fully understand the site, reading the terms and conditions is a must and not just on gambling site as much as possible, make this one as a habit every time you create an account on any site. The important informations  that you may need , you can see here so I think this is very important. Some gambling site made changes on that without informing the players or the users, that’s why read it at least once in a month to see if there’s a changes that may affect your activities, you can prevent it by reading the ToS.

Yeah, but, I mean, do you really read them? You'd be like the first person I've ever seen who's reading T&C "at least once in a month".

Yes, it's very important, but with that many words to read only a few people can do that. A good solution would be limiting the number of words in T&C by law, which was discussed earlier in this thread.
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Sometimes I am surprised by gamblers who get angry when crypto gambling sites update their TOS, it's a natural thing to do in my opinion.
Because crypto gambling sites have to make some adjustments to the latest situation, they are platforms created for business purposes.
Surely the crypto gambling site will make rules in their favor, if we don't like it, there's no need to be angry. We just have to look for a crypto
gambling site that suits our needs, because each crypto gambling site must have a different TOS.
We don't know whether it's profitable or not for players, but gambling sites should not make updates that harm the players. I mean, if the update suddenly occurs the gambling site must confirm the players whether they agree or not, so that he can secure their money from the site.

The fact is that usually updates made by gambling sites are often detrimental to gamblers, sometimes they change the rules suddenly and that
makes some gamblers angry. Therefore we cannot force gambling sites to make updates according to our wishes as users. Because they only think
about what benefits their platforms, and if we find this, don't argue with these gambling sites, it will just freeze our money. Just make
a withdrawal according to their rules, and once our funds have been successfully withdrawn from these gambling sites, don't play at those
gambling sites again. Because we as users do have to read the TOS for each gambling site, look for the TOS that is exactly what we need.
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Yes I know that but hoping if they are that regulated and if they are that licensed then these regulators should do some more extensive requirement to even just make this a priority somehow. The fault may come to these sites but if the player/s has no intention of even just do a simple scanning onto the T&C then they are missing something too. I know this is taken for granted by most players but if they somehow make it easy to understand even on when you signing up on the site then it makes more sense that they (gambling site) may not be at fault at all when time comes a problem arises.
Well, that's why it's probably a grey area as to who's really at fault or not? Since fr, most issues with T&C accusations is literally lined in a single line in a wall of text. Yes, the casino isn't necessarily at fault, but how would it become the fault of the user in that case as well? It makes me look like I'm siding with users here (which I am) since casinos just take advantage of T&C as an excuse. They could easily put up a warning sign or two to indicate the whats and whats not in the game itself. A single line of warning is all it would take. It's not like users are using bots or scripts that are not allowed by T&C, it's just that they aren't able to follow the right procedure since it's hidden.
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Your intention is indeed Best mate but let's admit the reality here mate that T&C is a trap , actually gambling site use this as hiding place to take advantage of their gamblers , I know that not all of them but the truth is? by chance they already Knew these things but not even making action to Help players understand easily the terms .
Yes I know that but hoping if they are that regulated and if they are that licensed then these regulators should do some more extensive requirement to even just make this a priority somehow. The fault may come to these sites but if the player/s has no intention of even just do a simple scanning onto the T&C then they are missing something too. I know this is taken for granted by most players but if they somehow make it easy to understand even on when you signing up on the site then it makes more sense that they (gambling site) may not be at fault at all when time comes a problem arises.
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Apart from high rolls and big wins, one should be careful when using bonuses and it's better to go through the terms and conditions once again and check what rules apply in order to withdraw after using them. I think this is the trickiest part, even with respected casinos there can be unpleasant situations where you'll be required to play a lot in order to withdraw.

From now on, to somehow keep everything safe and fair, when participating in a deposit bonuses, promotions, events, always read the Terms and Conditions about it and not just be blinded by that awesome offer.

If possible screenshot and make an archive of that terms so that in case of "unusual approach", users have a reference.

We can't really deny the fact that sometimes it's on the user's fault why they ended up violating the terms. Now to deal with that, make a habit to read the promotion's TOS.
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

If you are playing heavily on one gambling site, and there's an option to do KYC then do it early to avoid getting into the trap of decline KYC later, withdrawals have been the biggest issue here, some gambling sites started to accuse you and give you a lot of reasons why you cannot get your earnings, so being familiar in a gambling site that you are playing is very important, and always checking for any withdrawal complaints this could also happen to you.

Most gamblers don't read TOS before signing-up that is why some complain of funds or accounts being frozen. Reading it carefully will not consume much of your time to avoid any hassle of having your funds on hold because of breaking the TOS. Some casinos require KYC, some don't. Each gambking site has their own rules and requirement you must abide.
TOS is made long for us not able to understand it carefully, actually, who bothered to read for the how many pages, it is time-consuming. And instead of spending time reading the whole story and sites policy, it is much better to familiarize the site. Because I believe that most of the gambling sites are of the same TOS( there might have some changes but probably the same as of the others) so, what we did in the other sites could still be the same.
Well, asking KYC sometimes happens when your account got compromised or if you have a huge transfer that to stop money laundering, that is a sort of verifying who does the transfer or someone got hack.
This is a true statement. In some gambling sites it'll be mentioned in such a manner it should not be understood by the users. In a much complicated way the terms and conditions will be. Some platforms even make the user provide details on the source of fund. These are all some form of trap. In a short and precise manner the TOS can be mentioned in the page, but they won't do it. Anyhow it always has the statement everything is subject to risk and the firm has the right to make any decision without prior notice. So, if they plan to scam or trap an user they has the ability.
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

If you are playing heavily on one gambling site, and there's an option to do KYC then do it early to avoid getting into the trap of decline KYC later, withdrawals have been the biggest issue here, some gambling sites started to accuse you and give you a lot of reasons why you cannot get your earnings, so being familiar in a gambling site that you are playing is very important, and always checking for any withdrawal complaints this could also happen to you.

Most gamblers don't read TOS before signing-up that is why some complain of funds or accounts being frozen. Reading it carefully will not consume much of your time to avoid any hassle of having your funds on hold because of breaking the TOS. Some casinos require KYC, some don't. Each gambking site has their own rules and requirement you must abide.
TOS is made long for us not able to understand it carefully, actually, who bothered to read for the how many pages, it is time-consuming. And instead of spending time reading the whole story and sites policy, it is much better to familiarize the site. Because I believe that most of the gambling sites are of the same TOS( there might have some changes but probably the same as of the others) so, what we did in the other sites could still be the same.
Well, asking KYC sometimes happens when your account got compromised or if you have a huge transfer that to stop money laundering, that is a sort of verifying who does the transfer or someone got hack.
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

If you are playing heavily on one gambling site, and there's an option to do KYC then do it early to avoid getting into the trap of decline KYC later, withdrawals have been the biggest issue here, some gambling sites started to accuse you and give you a lot of reasons why you cannot get your earnings, so being familiar in a gambling site that you are playing is very important, and always checking for any withdrawal complaints this could also happen to you.

Most gamblers don't read TOS before signing-up that is why some complain of funds or accounts being frozen. Reading it carefully will not consume much of your time to avoid any hassle of having your funds on hold because of breaking the TOS. Some casinos require KYC, some don't. Each gambking site has their own rules and requirement you must abide.
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

If you are playing heavily on one gambling site, and there's an option to do KYC then do it early to avoid getting into the trap of decline KYC later, withdrawals have been the biggest issue here, some gambling sites started to accuse you and give you a lot of reasons why you cannot get your earnings, so being familiar in a gambling site that you are playing is very important, and always checking for any withdrawal complaints this could also happen to you.
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check

Nobody reads that crap mate. Do you read the ToS every time you update your phone's firmware or you install a new app? I don't think so.

I know everybody should but then you probably wouldn't install anything because 99 times out of 100 the ToS is there to protect them, not the consumers.

ToS is not above law. If you steal from them, they can sue you. If you don't play fair, they can stop doing business with you. They can't however seize your money, not more than the harm you caused otherwise that would be theft. They can always sue you for the harm you caused and try to get some more. That's legal.
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You have a point, but there's a reason people don't read ToS: they're extremely long and often written in a rather technical language, which normally people can't fully understand.


I'm a good example of that, I usually don't read the TOS as I'm thinking most TOS are all the same, it's more on technical but I believe the site would not make a stupid mistake to destroy their reputation, so my strategy is very simple, I usually play on a casino with a good reputation and has a big market as I know they'll ensure to keep that reputation intact.
^ Even though you are not reading the TOS but I think you must go first to the FAQ which is some of those questions come from the TOS. For me, reading TOS is a very important matter because you can read it there the DO and the DONTS which is causing possible mistakes every time you will use it. So if you have enough time to read the TOS much better. It is better if you want to protect yourself from possibly violating the rules and TOS is very important at all and nothing else matter.  

What Finestream wishes to say is that "DO & DONT's" are pretty much the same everywhere, if you follow the logic! And what can you possibly want to do in one casino that you can't do in any other?!

If you are an honest player you will not have problems... at least not some big problems! But this doesn't apply to high rollers and people who have good winning streaks (most often with sports betting)! People with a lot of money should think twice before choosing a casino, they can be robbed! And people with long/big winning streaks often have problems with cashing out! With reading or not their ToS!
Apart from high rolls and big wins, one should be careful when using bonuses and it's better to go through the terms and conditions once again and check what rules apply in order to withdraw after using them. I think this is the trickiest part, even with respected casinos there can be unpleasant situations where you'll be required to play a lot in order to withdraw.
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For sure no one really like to post up lengthy pile of text but they would really be needing to put up every single detail because that would surely be needed and for the users to know on what are the site rules thats needed to be followed and would able to avoid possible problems in the future.
It's a must to take time reading important information to avoid having any probem in the long run, Even it's a boring thing to do but if you

are a serious gamblers who put decent money inside the house, you don't want to messed up when you need to withdrawn huge amount of money.

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Its actually for our own good or sake but due to laziness of most gamblers then this is mostly been neglected or ignored to be
read up and even myself do really find this tiring and boring to be read up anytime i do make out some switch up from gambling site to another gambling site so i cant really blame off people on why they do really have this kind of behavior which is actually a common one.
yup! it's for the good of those gamblers who are using the platform, knowing the rules and be guided of everything will save time

if there's something wrong or some issue being raise to your account, if you know and understand the house rules you can easily

depend yourself too much quicker enlightenment of your case.
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