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Topic: Terms and condition a must read before signing up any online gambling site - page 11. (Read 2325 times)

hero member
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I think more important than any T&C's are the reputation of the casino in question.

The fact of the matter is that T&C's are simply theoretical constructs that have no real implication in real life. Most crypto casinos have very similar T&C's when it comes to KYC & AML regulations, but the way enforce these rules are what decides their usability to someone who isn't willing to provide this information.

If a casino has a history of cherrypicking pedantic details in their T&C's, it's best to avoid them altogether. Whereas I'd trust sites like Bitsler and Justdice to not ask for KYC even if it is in their T&Cs.
sr. member
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Whether it is a trading platform, gambling platform or something else. It is a must to go through the terms and conditions page, but one out of thousand will do this. Most of the users while signing up just agree and complete the registration. When there arises some issue with the withdrawal or fund transfer people gets response citing the terms and conditions from the support team. By that time people realise the mistake and that time things might've gone out of their hands.

Actually, that's true. Most of us will just check the box stating that "I agree with Terms and Conditions" , without even opening this page. But if you have a lot of money to spend on a site, it is always better to at least read their terms so you will not be caught off guard when the site just suddenly froze or suspend your account. It is your money, so be responsible about it because not many people can help you if the fault is on your side.
legendary
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Whether it is a trading platform, gambling platform or something else. It is a must to go through the terms and conditions page, but one out of thousand will do this. Most of the users while signing up just agree and complete the registration. When there arises some issue with the withdrawal or fund transfer people gets response citing the terms and conditions from the support team. By that time people realise the mistake and that time things might've gone out of their hands.
legendary
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I'm also one of the few players here that don't bother reading the Terms and Conditions. I let the reviews to other users before I play on that site. I'm sure I will see and read anything about KYC at those reviews if that site is implementing it.

But if there's a time that I don't find any reviews about the site, it's a common thing for me to read the Terms and Conditions. Just everyone else, I don't like the KYC part of the gambling site especially if it will be asked right away.
legendary
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Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
Who in the right sense will take gambling as a major source of income, i would say the opposite until you have a magical recipe that no one knows considering there are a few big time players who live solely on gambling but not everyone has that kind of skill level to make a living with gambling.

I do agree with the part that you need to read all the terms and conditions before registered to a site and then the major aspect is whether the site can be trusted and whether they have any issues in the past.

Stake is a great site and they do not enforce KYC but there are a few sites that enforced KYC after winning big and you need to check everything if you are not willing to provide your identity to a gambling site.
sr. member
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This is actually a basic thing to do before registering on the gambling site, actually not only on gambling sites but on any site or platform. Sometimes, there are many important rules and also information o the T&C. However, some people may not care about the T&C. And they will care or read the whole T&C after they found some problem,s or issues during the gambling or using the platform. ANd because ignoring any T&C, they can make some mistakes, don't know the rules, and also lose some money.

Never regret anything if we don't pay attention to the T&C in a certain platform if something happens.

Doesnt really only limit out on gambling platforms but any sites or service on where you should really be needing on reading up the terms so that you wont really be having some headache later on in case you had committed something.

There are instances though that there are some alterations or changes in terms suddenly which would really be in result into those sudden problems.

Its just part of reality that majority of us wont really be minding much about reading up Terms and conditions and just easily skip out and play directly.
hero member
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This is actually a basic thing to do before registering on the gambling site, actually not only on gambling sites but on any site or platform. Sometimes, there are many important rules and also information o the T&C. However, some people may not care about the T&C. And they will care or read the whole T&C after they found some problem,s or issues during the gambling or using the platform. ANd because ignoring any T&C, they can make some mistakes, don't know the rules, and also lose some money.

Never regret anything if we don't pay attention to the T&C in a certain platform if something happens.
legendary
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I don't know why you still have make this post in the gambling section. I bet everyone is already aware of all that. I just want to add that some of the terms and conditions changes over time and it can happen long after you signed up. There are also cases when casinos made sudden changes after they were accused of something.
If a casino changes its playing terms and conditions even slightly in such a way that it affects the players then I am sure an email or an on-site notice would be given to the players because they must agree to the terms before they play.

These days I am seeing most crypto gambling and all other services like exchanges also keep updating their terms and user agreement to comply with latest government norms. I guess if we need a place which is fully licensed environment then we must need to accept those terms and conditions time to time.
legendary
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Newbies makes these mistakes  a lot which must be avoid in order to prevent lose of funds.

So not reading anything related to KYC is a mistake by newbies? What if they played on a famous site already wherein they do their homework that there's no such thing as KYC for a winning?

We should not take the blame that they are newbies why there's an event of losing funds. In reality, there are really new sites that take the KYC terms as a reason not to grant or allow the winnings of a certain user. Unprofessional at its finest.

The best thing to do would be, newbies should not entertain new sites even how legit they are. Or if they really want to test it, then face the risk.
sr. member
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The rate at which people are involving in gambling this days is alerming without them having thorough understanding in what they are into just because of the haste of making money. Alots of newbies had lost their funds just because they were not ready to read or not informed about the terms and conditions of a game or gamble before venturing into it.

It is very important for one to understand the level of risks that should be taken before involving in a gamble by not just focusing on the money that could be made. Newbies makes these mistakes  a lot which must be avoid in order to prevent lose of funds.
legendary
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It is always been our Obligation as gamblers/players to know whats the rules and i believe in everything that we will be entering has a need to read Terms and Conditions . or their rules.

though at first i am not a fan of reading TOS but eventually after many issues that i read in many gambling site then i put myself of checking every single details before i create accounts or at least deposit.
I think this is applicable only to those who wants to withdraw if they win in a specific casino online but for those who only deposit just to have fun and play, I think they tend to enjoy their money while playing until it's all gone but for some instances there are people who casually wins but didn't read the ToS will end up blaming the casino if they weren't able to withdraw. Although, this doesn't seem always to happen since most of the people who complained are doing something shady and get caught by the security of their system. So it's most likely the bettor's fault.
hero member
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i'll bet that 70% of online gamblers don't read the terms and conditions before making a deposit....but another thing that is annoying is that many gambling sites change their terms and conditions a few years after they were launched and there are already many users.  For example, if previously gambling site A did not require KYC before a withdraw but change it after users reached millions.
Yes, indeed. If you can accept whatever will happen later, you do not have to read the term and conditions and play without a problem. But if you often play gambling and can win many times on the other website and you want to test your luck, then read that things will be important to know what is needed to avoid the mistake. But for filling KYC, I do not think that many gamblers want to do that because when we use crypto, we care for our privacy by not giving it to the other party.
legendary
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Only newbie and fool gamblers does not able reading the TOS of every gambling site they are entering and play,
because in the end they are the cry baby in this forum becoming a victim of scam site that hiding in their TOS to take funds from players specially those who got to win big when they are withdrawing.

So you call me a "cry baby"?! Did you see me complaining and crying anywhere?Smiley

I don't read ToS before or after the registration! For all confusions, the first thing I do is asking support about it, they clear things for me... or at least they give me some contact (usually telegram) for more info!
In 7+ years in crypto gambling maybe I read a few lines here and there... and that's it! I never had any serious problems with any casino, some of them have some different rules, but I learn about it in the run... simple and small deposit and you check how everything works in practice! If I like the place I stay, if not I just leave them behind!

This thread reminded me of "South Park -  HUMANCENTiPAD"! What a crazy episode! 
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Only newbie and fool gamblers does not able reading the TOS of every gambling site they are entering and play,
because in the end they are the cry baby in this forum becoming a victim of scam site that hiding in their TOS to take funds from players specially those who got to win big when they are withdrawing.
Well, even if you read all the terms and conditions, most websites that requires a registration is probably requiring everyone to accept the Terms and Condition before registering an account which means that reading is pretty much futile.
legendary
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Only newbie and fool gamblers does not able reading the TOS of every gambling site they are entering and play,
because in the end they are the cry baby in this forum becoming a victim of scam site that hiding in their TOS to take funds from players specially those who got to win big when they are withdrawing.
I think that those who don't read the ToS first before registering aren't newbie or fool gambler, could be many are because when they first came to the gambling website, they were tempted by the promos and all the bonuses that made them a little negligent of the ToS. myself when reading the ToS focus more on the Deposit, Withdrawal and restriction areas.
sr. member
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Only newbie and fool gamblers does not able reading the TOS of every gambling site they are entering and play,
because in the end they are the cry baby in this forum becoming a victim of scam site that hiding in their TOS to take funds from players specially those who got to win big when they are withdrawing.
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i'll bet that 70% of online gamblers don't read the terms and conditions before making a deposit....but another thing that is annoying is that many gambling sites change their terms and conditions a few years after they were launched and there are already many users.  For example, if previously gambling site A did not require KYC before a withdraw but change it after users reached millions.
if they do that they should make an announcement for their players to know but reading the terms and condition at the start of your registration is a must because if a casino accuse you on something , you will have a proof that you dont violate any terms .
each has a reason on why they did not read the terms and condition , there is that laziness , there is they think the casino is trusted but if we play seriously with bigger funds , reading terms and condition should be a habit .
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i'll bet that 70% of online gamblers don't read the terms and conditions before making a deposit....but another thing that is annoying is that many gambling sites change their terms and conditions a few years after they were launched and there are already many users.  For example, if previously gambling site A did not require KYC before a withdraw but change it after users reached millions.
sr. member
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How I wish everybody could really take time not just to read but also to digest what is being stated in gambling sites' terms and conditions. But I doubt the high percentage of gamblers are really into this boring yet very important task. I myself don't read terms and conditions before using a gambling platform. But mine might be a different case because I don't make big deposits for gambling.

I have read a number of terms and conditions but it usually comes after an account has already been set up. When I read terms and conditions it is usually because there is a certain controversy or an issue which somehow compels me to check the site's terms and conditions.
hero member
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Some of them also likes surprises, you'll never know their KYC unless you have a big amount of profits in your account and they will suddenly requires it just for you, like they will require a lot of personal informations for you to pass their KYC but in the end, they still won't let you withdraw it, which is infuriating.

It will be a big issue if suddenly they want to change their terms just so you cannot withdraw your earnings because it is a big amount, this is a big warning sign, and worthy to create an accusation thread in the scam section, that is why you should only play with big online casinos if you are going to deposit a huge amount because the big and highly reputable gambling site will let you withdraw and will not play dirty by immediately changing their rules, always get updated on any changes on their rules so you can change shift in your playing whether you want to continue playing or go for other casinos.
at that point isn't that just plainly a scam? Doing the required procedures and then denying you of withdrawing even with it done seems to be wrong in their side, and they wouldn't really do it if they were a legitimate site. Besides, TOS changes should be given at least a week before it is implemented, rather common-sense imo. If it wasn't done like that, then leave the casino immediately honestly, it's just a waste of time. Even if they were to immediately implement the TOS in a single day, maintenance of an hr should be given and a notice of updates should be received by the users the moment they log back in.

The advent of online casinos (or any online business for that matter) has been in existence for way too long that missing these kinds of simple stuff is enough to be a red flag for that casino.
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