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Jones is an anti-hero and he doesn't care about the morals and desires of some UFC fans because he only cares about himself. On the other hand it seems like Jones' fans know his sneaky nature. The fight against Miocic is 99% an easy win for Jones. But he just wants to be able to claim to be the GOAT who beat another GOAT. After this fight it seems like he will fight Pereira. Chama has a lot of fans with his unique character. And for now Pereira is still weak on the ground. This is the same weakness that Gane has. If Jones chooses an easier opponent then it is Pereira. But if suddenly Jones wants to surprise and negotiate a bigger payday for himself then a fight with Aspinall is what everyone wants right now.

Of course Yan and Ulberg are the favorites and they have the edge on paper over their respective opponents and the possibility of Figueiredo being able to steal points from few rounds to get decision victory is also very small because Yan is much more aggressive and he will not give Figueiredo the chance to have an advantage even for just one round.
For Oezdemir vs Ulberg the bookies give odds of @2.90 for Oezdemir and @1.39 for Ulberg, in this fight I think there will be surprise with Ulberg winning faster by KO.

It seemed to me like Bones was going to give Tom the shot everyone wants him to have. I think the whole duck thing is a negotiation tactic. Jones even seemed to hint after his last win that he was going to talk to Dana and give the people what they want soon. The man just wants a massive payday on his way out.

Because he's DUCKing Tom. That's all.


Yan is x1.33 favourite and I think rightfully so. He may have lost 3 out of his last 5 fights, but he lost in a good style against very solid fighters (+ I think he was robbed in the O'Malley fight). He's also younger than Figueiredo (31 Vs 36), so Yan should have some cardio advantage if they are to go for a full 5 rounds.
The problem is it's been a while since the last time Yan managed to finish his opponent (2020), so it's very likely it will go to the judges where anything is possible.

^  I don't get the duck reference.  Why is Jones called a duck again?  Is it cos he has a gut now?  Lol.  

Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.

Lol, quack-quack. I imagined Bones talking with Donald Duck voice

Btw, we havent discussed gloves choice on UFC 309 Why there were no golden gloves, but everyone wore old black gloves? Because Bones asked for them (to make eye-poking more easy) and UFC agreed to that?

Here is an article about it Dana White explains decision to bring back old gloves before UFC 309. I find it suspicious, that they took decision to bring old gloves back exactly when Bones was having a fight KO ratio excuse did not work. As there were only 2 KO's by punches on UFC 309, and for example week before that on UFC Fight Night: Magny vs. Prates 4 KO's and 1 TKO with old golden gloves

Yup, I've seen it and I took it as the fight will happen. But who knows, maybe it's just Dana saying he will try to make it happen, but it'll be down to Jon to sign the contract or not.

Assuming Jon will stick to his word and not retire, he has only 2 options: fight Tom, as he should, or move back down to the light heavyweight to try to win his old belt back from Pereira. I don't think Pereira moving up to the heavyweight is a viable option, as Jones would have to vacate the belt which would make him look really bad and would reduce the prestige of such fight.

I hope they'll get things moving quickly and that we won't have to wait till the summer or later to see them in action. Tom is in his prime and should be fighting at least 2-3 times a year if his goal is to build a solid legacy. He has last fought in July and a year in between the fights is a long time.

UFC matchmaker sure would agree Jone vs Aspinall should happen, Dana would agree as well but it seems like Dana doesn't want that to happen. We saw him force someone to fight another he can even make a fight on short notice, more than likely it's not just Jones who decides not to fight Aspinall.

Even if he insists on fighting Pereira, I think it may not also happen. But who knows. If he can get a huge pay when Jones vs Pereira is hyped, I think Jones would prefer this fight and then retire.
 

I think Jones is as smart as he is a good fighter. He said he wanted more money to fight Aspinall and he made a remarkable argument... However, Aspinall deserved this fight as the interim belt holder. So, I think Jones preferred trash talk instead of fighting Aspinall in the octagon. Anyway, maybe that's an success and Jones has achieved that too...

By the way, Jones continued to mock the whole controversy by changing his social media profile to a duck wearing a belt...


I think he's trying to look like he doesn't care about the criticism against him...

Years before Jones decides to fight?  Lol.  Well if Jones delays the division then the UFC will strip Jones off his belt and officially make Aspinall the title holder of HW.  What else could they do..?

But overall, all the things we're seeing now are all smoke and mirrors from what's really happening behind the scenes.  I think they're def fighting at the international fight week.  That's around June...  So that's 7 months from now.  I think it's perfect timing imho.

Here's the roster for the next event...

Date:  Saturday, Nov 23
Main Card (PPV):  6:00am EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  3:00am EST
Venue:  Galaxy Arena, Macau



Main Card (PPV)
Petr Yan vs Deiveson Figueiredo            
Yan Xiaonan vs Tabatha Ricci            
Song Kenan vs Muslim Salikhov         
Wang Cong vs Gabriella Fernandes            
Volkan Oezdemir vs Carlos Ulberg            
Zhang Mingyang vs Ozzy Diaz

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Xie Bin vs Zhu Kangjie         
Baergeng Jieleyisi vs You Su-young      
Kiru Singh Sahota vs Choi Dong-hun      
Shi Ming vs Feng Xiaocan      
Nyamjargal Tumendemberel vs Carlos Hernandez            
Lone'er Kavanagh vs Jose Ochoa            
Xiao Long vs Quang Le            
Maheshate Hayisaer vs Nikolas Motta

I didn't say he doesn't look healthy, no, he looks very healthy from the outside but we don't know what's happening inside but that's not our interest at the moment. By the way, what I'm saying is that gaining weight is not healthy, he is in a great shape and if he gains weight, I believe that it will be harder for him to cut because with weight gain and loss, metabolism gets struck.

He won't retire, he said it after the fight that he doesn't plan to retire and if he retires after announcing of Tom Aspinal - Jon Jones, it will be a huge strike on his reputation and the GOAT status. He has no other chance but to fight Tom Aspinal.

Because DANA wants money. Jones's last fight was very boring, he finished the guy in a minute, that's not what fans come for. Fans want to see lots of rounds and lots of punches. Imagine paying a thousands dollar to see a fight that lasts some second? That's a huge disappointment for a fan.

I like how Dana avoided those sharp corner in Aspinall vs Bones next fight On one hand it is yes they are fighting, and on the other he can always say that is how he see situation, but match makers and fighter performance decide who fights who next And if I was Aspinall, I would not be so happy about all that and call it success. It is a success but when he is fighting Bones? next summer? In a year? Wait till Bones finally decides to fight. It can last for years. And he would turn in Chandler, who was waiting for Conor for years. Depends on what contract they both will sign. With known opponent and date, or only agreement to fight.

This would be headshaking if everyone is beginning to speculate that the chicken legs of Jon Bones Jones is running away from Tom Aspinall hehehe. We can be certain that this is very much Jon Jones' tactic to get more money from uncle Dana because Jon has clearly observed that the fight against Tom the moonface Aspinall is what the fans has been demanding.

I predict that this will certainly be a victory for the chicken legs Jon of the bones of the Jones heheheh. Everyone is believing in this hype on Tom Aspinall, however, the contrarian me certainly disagrees.

I think people will remember the co-main event more than the main event at UFC 309. There was nothing exciting about someone wanting to fight a 42-year-old UFC retiree. And what was even more surprising was that at UFC 309 they legalized elbows 12-6 and went back to the old gloves. It was like the UFC gave Jones everything he wanted. I remember the new gloves made it harder for fighters to get eye pokes. Yeah the Chandler vs Oliveira fight saved UFC 309. It was a really interesting fight. Oliveira couldn't really submit Chandler. And the fight got interesting when Chandler took Oliveira to the canvas. I thought it was over but Oliveira survived. Respect to the referee for not stopping the fight right away.

Instead of talking about Jones running away from Aspinall, we are talking about Jones wanting to fight Perreira. I think Jones got what he wanted both inside and outside the ring. Inside the ring he beat a 42-year-old fireman, outside the ring he directed the discussion to where he wanted it to go. We understand the importance of decentralized systems in this kind of organization. We could have seen a fairer fight for the belt if it was a decentralized organization...

By the way, Charles Oliveira had a great finish that saved 309's honor. Michael Chandler tried hard to throw Charles Oliveira off his back, but Charles saved the night by kissing Chandler...

Some people say Jon Jones is a loser for choosing to fight Miocic and I think everyone already knows that Miocic has only a 1% chance of beating Jones. Honestly I don't see any fighting spirit in Miocic. He seems to think about fighting, getting paid and then going home to enjoy time with his family. Yes Miocic should retire and leave his legacy as one of the GOATs in UFC.

And for the match against Pereira, of course Chama is one of the best fighters today. And that is a worthy opponent for Jones. But I think Jones is better off fighting Aspinall to prove himself as one of the best fighters in UFC. If he fights Pereira I think Jones knows Pereira is weak on the ground and Jones is a fighter with very good striking and grappling. This is similar to the Jones vs Gane fight where Jones can apply the strategy of grappling and playing on the ground with Pereira. As far as I remember Pereira is a kickboxer and not very good at Jiujitsu even though he is from Brazil.

IMO Chandler is the most entertaining fighter right now. He really gives the fights that fans are waiting for. I think Chandler has managed to get appreciation from fans including me. All of Chandler's fights in UFC are really not boring. His fights against Oliveira 1, Porier, and Justin were very interesting even though he lost. Especially his fight with Justin which was like watching a Gladiator fight. And his wins against Hooker and Tony with brutal knockouts also made everyone crazy. I think so far Chandler's fights will always be awaited by UFC fans. Because he doesn't seem to want to give a boring fight. On the other hand Chandler is a good company man. And of course Uncle Dana really likes him.

Tom Aspinall has a YT channel.  Go watch his 309 video.  He kept filming til after the event when he was still around the arena waiting for Dana White and the top brass of the UFC.  After the meeting and the way the video ended, it looks like Jones vs Aspinall is next.  

Aspinall said 'success'.  So I guess we'll see it happen at international fight week next summer.    I'm gonna bet on whoever is gonna be the underdog.  

Oliveira vs Chandler was the only good match from all top fights in main card. Despite that one punch and those falls on the back while Oliveira was on the back (seems more entertaining than effective), Chandler did not show anything. With such form, McGregor is the only one who Chandler could beat. Many think that Chandler is so cool, but he has 1-4 in last 5 fights and the only guy he has beaten was old Ferguson. My question is, should Chandler really be so high in ranking?

Not the best way to end Stipe's career, but at 42 years old, we already know that it's time for him to hang his gloves, and he said it straightforward when Joe Rogan asked him. No further explanation - straight to the point he said that he's retiring. I think this is expected already that Jones will win, but I didn't expect that it will last 3 rounds. I mean I expected that it will end in just 1 round. Nevertheless, it's an impressive win still. Some UFC fans want Jones and Aspinall to fight, but if I remember correctly, Jones already stated that he wants to fight Pereira. I don't know which is which at this one, but whoever Jones will be fighting, for sure it will be a blockbuster fight yet again.

Not being said here, but I'm amazed on how friendly Oliveira is with his opponents. I mean it's not the usual that we are seeing on a fighter. He's shaking hands his opponents and his team - something that most of the UFC fighters aren't doing. I wonder if Charles has a beef with other fighters with how friendly he is with them.

It was a total domination of Jon Jones.
I expected to see more from Miocic but we badly hurt in first round and everything went down the hill for him.
Maybe long break was the reason but at 42 years I think it was the right decisions for Miocic to finally retire from MMA.
Jones is not young as well but I think he has few years of good fighting in him.
Who is next for Jones? Aspinall? Gane? Alex Pereira?