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December 27, 2024, 11:44:05 AM
Dunno. Took first random fight from PFL, Ngannou vs Ferreira. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7WwjSPKvU for the PFL super fight heavyweight worlds championship. And before that fight, Ferreir "Won the PFL vs. Bellator Champion of Champions" Super Fights World Heavyweight Championship.". Doesnt it mean that they also claim their guys a champions of the wooooooorld? Cheesy

But I dont care much about who is more champion of the world, who deserves that title, or who should be simply a champion. I pay more attention to two guys trying to figure who is better Cheesy And who is not and who is a champ of the world, galaxy, universe, school, office, topic, that has stopped bothering me when I stopped arguing who is stronger, Terminator or John Rambo Cheesy

It should have been that way only. Only fighters fight each other but when DDP and then the rest of the Africans have issues, it makes it evident of this issue especially if Izzy waves the Chinese flag.  Grin  The nobility in bringing the flags they represent is thier pride. Have you noticed sportsmen meet their president when they become the pride of their country?

Ngannou vs Jones should be booked. It's not up to us though.  If Dana doesn't do it, ONEFC and PFL should do it and let thier champions fight each other.
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December 27, 2024, 08:52:37 AM
Everyone now will want a fight against Fury Cheesy He is beaten, probably in depression and crying somewhere, or destroying himself with alcohol and illegal stuff. Fury has a hit mark on his head, as previously undefeated champion now is in bad shape and easy target. Fury can now accept any challenge to restore or reset his career, but for many his is a big bag of money.

Enough of this boxing thing in this topic Cheesy Here are some year 2024 highlights in UFC https://www.ufc.com/news/a-year-of-style-and-storytelling-ufc-venum-unrivaled-fight-kits
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December 27, 2024, 08:01:57 AM
^  The PFL has Ngannou...  Why don't they make some noise by saying Jon Jones can't win vs him..?  Which could be true imho.

They could even play old Dana's interviews when he hinted that Jones was afraid to fight Ngannou. That would be a great PR play and it would be hard for Dana to respond to.
But maybe the PFL is hyping Francis up but we're not getting any feeds because of how algorithms work, i.e. they would only show you the UFC related news because that's what you were interested in the past, effectively creating a bubble.

Or maybe it's just that the PFL doesn't really have any idea for Francis, i.e. they simply don't have any suitable opponents after he demolished Ferreira. I'm reading that Francis is seeking for a rematch with Fury:
https://businessday.ng/sports/article/ngannou-rules-out-anthony-joshua-rematch-eyes-fury-showdown/
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“A rematch with Joshua? I felt very off and not comfortable in that fight. It’s something that could happen, but what I do know for sure is I want the rematch with Fury,” Ngannou said.

I can't find any info on any plans for his next mma fight.
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December 27, 2024, 07:46:49 AM
^  The PFL has Ngannou...  Why don't they make some noise by saying Jon Jones can't win vs him..?  Which could be true imho. 

I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better. 

I do like to watch MMA also, but I care a lot about promotion Cheesy For me this is UFC and the rest. And those rest often dont match level of UFC. How many times I have seen when undefeated champion or a guy with perfect record is just beaten, but humiliated by UFC guy.




I know what you mean, but it's more about good match ups for me and the thing like 'styles make fights'.  That's why I find ONE FC more entertaining than Bellator or the PFL sometimes.  At ONE FC, Asian fighters mostly like to do stand up and less wrestling.  So there's more KO's and violence.  Bellator and the PFL is like the UFC but at a much lower level which is just hard to watch most of the time.
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December 27, 2024, 05:25:16 AM
Dunno. Took first random fight from PFL, Ngannou vs Ferreira. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7WwjSPKvU for the PFL super fight heavyweight worlds championship. And before that fight, Ferreir "Won the PFL vs. Bellator Champion of Champions" Super Fights World Heavyweight Championship.". Doesnt it mean that they also claim their guys a champions of the wooooooorld? Cheesy

But I dont care much about who is more champion of the world, who deserves that title, or who should be simply a champion. I pay more attention to two guys trying to figure who is better Cheesy And who is not and who is a champ of the world, galaxy, universe, school, office, topic, that has stopped bothering me when I stopped arguing who is stronger, Terminator or John Rambo Cheesy
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December 26, 2024, 12:32:32 PM
I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better.  

I do like to watch MMA also, but I care a lot about promotion Cheesy For me this is UFC and the rest. And those rest often dont match level of UFC. How many times I have seen when undefeated champion or a guy with perfect record is just beaten, but humiliated by UFC guy.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

If you dont like that "of the wooooorld" thing and think that it should be "of the promoooootion" only, then go to any local martial art gym and you will find that world champ trains there. Each gym has a world of former world champ. Like world championships happen each weekend. Dont you find it confusing that there are so many active champions in same weight categories, and they all are called worlds champions? Cheesy

No, I don't have problems with their claims. I have problems with why PFL or ONE is not claiming their fighters as universe champions. If any promotions claim something else I guess its also their thing.

It somehow becomes an issue when some fighters are bringing their flags in having a grand entrance to the cage. That's why it was even stopped since then because it does create the idea that they are fighting for their country. These fighters wouldn't be doing it if Bruce Buffer won't mention the country they are from.
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December 26, 2024, 11:32:19 AM
Jon Jones almost crashed his $5m Bugatti. Jon Jones was a guest on Alex G Was Here and was in the driver's seat for a test drive.
He suddenly hit the gas pedal too hard and the car wobbled a bit. You could tell by the nervousness on his face that he was scared.
If he had a minor accident, he would have had to fight Tom Aspinall for the cost of the car. No one wants him to crash like that, for sure.
The Bugatti Chiron is not a car to be taken lightly. If I had the chance to drive it, I would probably think twice. Cheesy

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December 26, 2024, 07:41:56 AM
I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better. 

I do like to watch MMA also, but I care a lot about promotion Cheesy For me this is UFC and the rest. And those rest often dont match level of UFC. How many times I have seen when undefeated champion or a guy with perfect record is just beaten, but humiliated by UFC guy.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

If you dont like that "of the wooooorld" thing and think that it should be "of the promoooootion" only, then go to any local martial art gym and you will find that world champ trains there. Each gym has a world of former world champ. Like world championships happen each weekend. Dont you find it confusing that there are so many active champions in same weight categories, and they all are called worlds champions? Cheesy
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December 26, 2024, 07:23:48 AM
^  At the front of the camera, sure...  Behind it it's:  'Show me the money!'.  Wink

^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

^  And it just won't make any sense to do a co promotion with the B leagues of MMA.  It won't make enough money and it'll just ruin the UFC as a brand.  The UFC is obv fine as is.  They don't need the other leagues.  And if Dana White really wants to a talented PFL, Bellator, etc fighter to be in the cage vs a UFC fighter, he'll just acquire the fighter and let him join the UFC like he did recently with Asakura.  He also did it with Chandler and Michael Venom Page.  Grin

Anyway, the UFC won't be back til in a couple of weeks...  Hope the next event will deliver.  Already looking at  couple of underdogs.

Acquiring the talents from other promotions will cost him more than just fighting both champs, UFC champ vs Bellator Champ. No strings attached they need to agree on their cuts. Or there will be an organization just like how they did to boxing WBC, WBO, IBF, and so on.  

UFC can't just claim one fighter to be the GOAT or FW/WW/HW champion of the world when these fighters haven't fought the champ of other promotions. Because at the same time, other promotions are also claiming their champs as champions of the world like they live in  different world.

Maybe but from the UFC's point of view, doing a cross promotion event would hurt their brand as the organizations like Bellator, PFL, etc need the UFC more for a cross promotion events than the UFC needs them.  The UFC is just fine on its own and it's making a lot more money than the other organizations.  Now why would the UFC give them a favor by giving them a cut in the profit.

And as for claiming who's the best P4P fighter, the UFC doesn't choose who.  It's the journos that chooses in case you didn't know.  The UFC doesn't have direct influence in the process.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

The brand is always protected, UFC must have that sort of pride. The few other promotions are not catching up that's I guess the problem for those promotions and Dana is not going to just dive into any collaboration in the name of sport. As long as there are MMA fighters who need money that PFL or Bellator can't provide, UFC can always rescue them.



Then it's not the problem of the UFC and they don't have a problem.  The problem is with the other orgaanizations and other people who seem to criticize the UFC for what?  For being run by better people behind the scenes?  I mean if you hate the UFC just don't watch it and get the fck out.

And tbh, I'm not defending the UFC or Dana White.  I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better.  The thing I don't really like is all the whining.  I mean please...  Let's just talk about the match ups and try to make money from these fights,
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December 26, 2024, 06:59:34 AM
^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

But isnt it really like this? First Merab was saying, that Umar hasnt fought anyone good and dont deserve a title fight. Also he used to sound that Umar is still a nobody, and he got all attention due to Nurmagomedov surname. Then Merab sounded like "Ok, I will fight him if you want it so much".

I like how they make that artificial conflict Grin

A: Repeat what you said about me?
B: What did I say?
A: You dont remember?
B: Dont.
A: Repeat! I demand it. You will be sorry.

I had such 1 vs 1 conversations in kindgergarten Cheesy
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December 25, 2024, 12:20:27 PM
^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

^  And it just won't make any sense to do a co promotion with the B leagues of MMA.  It won't make enough money and it'll just ruin the UFC as a brand.  The UFC is obv fine as is.  They don't need the other leagues.  And if Dana White really wants to a talented PFL, Bellator, etc fighter to be in the cage vs a UFC fighter, he'll just acquire the fighter and let him join the UFC like he did recently with Asakura.  He also did it with Chandler and Michael Venom Page.  Grin

Anyway, the UFC won't be back til in a couple of weeks...  Hope the next event will deliver.  Already looking at  couple of underdogs.

Acquiring the talents from other promotions will cost him more than just fighting both champs, UFC champ vs Bellator Champ. No strings attached they need to agree on their cuts. Or there will be an organization just like how they did to boxing WBC, WBO, IBF, and so on.  

UFC can't just claim one fighter to be the GOAT or FW/WW/HW champion of the world when these fighters haven't fought the champ of other promotions. Because at the same time, other promotions are also claiming their champs as champions of the world like they live in  different world.

Maybe but from the UFC's point of view, doing a cross promotion event would hurt their brand as the organizations like Bellator, PFL, etc need the UFC more for a cross promotion events than the UFC needs them.  The UFC is just fine on its own and it's making a lot more money than the other organizations.  Now why would the UFC give them a favor by giving them a cut in the profit.

And as for claiming who's the best P4P fighter, the UFC doesn't choose who.  It's the journos that chooses in case you didn't know.  The UFC doesn't have direct influence in the process.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

The brand is always protected, UFC must have that sort of pride. The few other promotions are not catching up that's I guess the problem for those promotions and Dana is not going to just dive into any collaboration in the name of sport. As long as there are MMA fighters who need money that PFL or Bellator can't provide, UFC can always rescue them.

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December 25, 2024, 06:49:10 AM
^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

^  And it just won't make any sense to do a co promotion with the B leagues of MMA.  It won't make enough money and it'll just ruin the UFC as a brand.  The UFC is obv fine as is.  They don't need the other leagues.  And if Dana White really wants to a talented PFL, Bellator, etc fighter to be in the cage vs a UFC fighter, he'll just acquire the fighter and let him join the UFC like he did recently with Asakura.  He also did it with Chandler and Michael Venom Page.  Grin

Anyway, the UFC won't be back til in a couple of weeks...  Hope the next event will deliver.  Already looking at  couple of underdogs.

Acquiring the talents from other promotions will cost him more than just fighting both champs, UFC champ vs Bellator Champ. No strings attached they need to agree on their cuts. Or there will be an organization just like how they did to boxing WBC, WBO, IBF, and so on.  

UFC can't just claim one fighter to be the GOAT or FW/WW/HW champion of the world when these fighters haven't fought the champ of other promotions. Because at the same time, other promotions are also claiming their champs as champions of the world like they live in  different world.

Maybe but from the UFC's point of view, doing a cross promotion event would hurt their brand as the organizations like Bellator, PFL, etc need the UFC more for a cross promotion events than the UFC needs them.  The UFC is just fine on its own and it's making a lot more money than the other organizations.  Now why would the UFC give them a favor by giving them a cut in the profit.

And as for claiming who's the best P4P fighter, the UFC doesn't choose who.  It's the journos that chooses in case you didn't know.  The UFC doesn't have direct influence in the process.
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December 25, 2024, 05:56:35 AM
I would start by saying that despite Bones, Dana lover O’Malley Cheesy Look at Sterling, he was a champ, got 4 title defences (that is a record for that weight division if I am not wrong), losses to O’Malley and already fight in prelims after. Now I think thanks to Danas background games and plans, Merab is forced to fight Umar, I guess he will lose, and as a man who beat O’Malley, will be forgotten by big boss Cheesy

Btw, I also saw somewhere that Chandler will fight Pimblett. That is also amazing, as Chandler will inactive for years waiting for Conor. Now had a fight against Oliveira, then Pimblett. So much of Chandler lately Cheesy Good for his and his family.
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December 25, 2024, 05:40:07 AM
Why do you guys say that Dana hates Merab and DDP? I was unaware of that, nor did I hear him bad-mouthing any of them. Is it just an assumption, or did he actually express his dislike towards those two?


In other news, Paddy Pimblett is rumoured to face Michael Chandler as his next opponent, which could happen on March 22nd when the event is scheduled to take place in London.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/12/23/paddy-pimblett-drops-major-hint-regarding-next-potential-ufc-opponent-as-fight-announcement-looms/
This is only a speculation at this point, but I think it's a good match-up. Pimblett has earned his right to fight a top guy and Chandler, given his only win in the last 5 fights was over Tony Ferguson, should be fighting down against someone ranked below him, and Paddy is a perfect guy for him, as, despite being only ranked 13th, is still a big enough name.
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December 24, 2024, 02:48:38 PM
After UFC 311 next event is also cool. We will have Adesanya vs Imavov. That will be a huge test for Imavov, and a first sign for Adesanya retirement and end of peak form, as this is first time he is facing highly above average opponent but not top of top.
Yes, UFC 312 will be amazing. Are you focused on Adesanya vs Imavov fight? Haha, I'm focused on DDP VS Strickland because DDP is one of my favorite fighter (partly because Dana hates him and I love everyone who scumbag Dana hates). By the way, DDP VS Strickland trashtalk was another level in UFC after Conor McGregor's trashtalks. DDP is a kind of guy who is silent and okay if you don't touch him but once you touch him, he becomes a savage. The way he trashtalked Strickland was brutal.

Here is the link to that legendary trash talk I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFPITR269U8
-Dricus-: Bro, why you so angry? Bro, you think your dad beat the shit out of you? Your dad doesn't have a shit on me, I'm gonna show you what it's like to beat you
-Strickland-: Dricus
-Dricus-: All, every childhood memory you have is gonna come back when I'm in there with you. Every single one, the one where you lie at bed at night and your dad comes in and beats the shit out of you...

This speech is forever in my memory after watching this trash talk for the first time and these guys here tell me that it's hard to remember 12 words seed phrase for Electrum wallet.
Okay, I had some fun Cheesy


Also we spoke about Shara Bullet, his eye and possible ban in fighting in US or UFC, but he ie fighting against Page Cheesy
Shara Bullet is phenomenal. Look at this video, what a double spinning backfist. The guy has only one eye but his eyesight is as great as of Bald Eagle.
Is he Khabib's cousin too? He is Magomedov (Khabib is Nurma|Gomedov) and he is from Dagestan too. By the way, I'm impressed that there is someone from Dagestan who is a striker and not a wrestler. This country probably is doing some scientific experiment to produce the best warriors in the world.
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December 24, 2024, 01:25:56 PM
Yup, the Fight Night on 1 Feb in Saudi Arabia looks really decent.
It will be a big test for Adesanya, after which we should know whether he still "got it" or has he lost it for good. He has lost 3 out of his last 4 fights, some say his decline started after that loss to Alex Pereira, but he took a successful revenge and knocked Alex out, which didn't seem like a big thing back then, but now, when Alex is dominating the light heavyweight, maybe we should give Izzy more credit for that.

Shara Vs Page is guaranteed good entertainment, those two do not hold back. Shara is a x1.66 favourite, but anything can happen in that fight. Both are ranked 14th and 15th respectively, so the winner probably won't move up the ranking too much.

Although it is not an important match for ranking, it is a perfect match for entertainment.
We can always expect MVP to knock out by entering with an unexpected power shot, he did this in his matches in UFC.
Shara is younger and looks good right now, the double fist he threw in the last match was great, he can make such smart moves, and that is why page is a match that I really like, exactly the match I am looking for.
It is exactly the kind of match that UFC audience wants.
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December 24, 2024, 01:09:23 PM
Shara Vs Page is guaranteed good entertainment, those two do not hold back. Shara is a x1.66 favourite, but anything can happen in that fight. Both are ranked 14th and 15th respectively, so the winner probably won't move up the ranking too much.

These two will keep faking the strike until someone will do it. Shara may be the favorite but Page's strikes are cleaner. However, the way he fights is somewhat of a karate style and will need a distance, unlike Shara who can still be effective without distance. Shara is not a grappler though, this time I think he will lose as he keeps going forward without much caution.

Izzy would be fun to watch dance with MVP, it might be possible if Izzy still loses in his next fight.

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December 24, 2024, 08:11:00 AM
No one likes money more than Dana White, I think we all agree on that. Definitely, Dana White won't let his fighters to participate in other promotions because he puts some money in their marketing and his fighters' participation in another competition means that the competitor will gain marketing benefits, which at some point is Dana's work and resources.

I'm so excited for UFC 311. For me, Makhachev and Dvalishvili aren't the most interesting fighters but I love every fight where Merab fights. It's clear that Dana White hates Merab Dvalishvili and wants him to lose his belt as soon as possible and that's why I love Merab, he always proves everyone wrong. If he wins this fight against Umar, Dana White will feel awful.
It's disgusting how much hatred Dana White carries towards so many amazing fighters. One of them is DDP, the UFC even removed him from Youtube thumbnail.
I think Mr. Dana reminds me of Mr. Krab. Yes, Dana really loves money and he is not generous in giving big prizes to his fighters. On the other hand, UFC is the best and biggest MMA promoter today where fighters who enter the top 10 in their division will have the opportunity to be known to the world and get contract offers from various brands. So it seems impossible for Dana to let the fighters he has promoted to the world stage fight for other promoters even though it is a collaboration.

Regarding Merab, I don't know if this is a coincidence or not. Merab is a big-mouthed fighter like McGregor although he is not as brutal as The Notorius. The point is that Merab is an entertainer and he is able to create content that attracts many people. Actually, he is Dana's favorite type of fighter because he is able to promote the fight. But Dana hates him. And uniquely, this actually makes people want to watch Merab's fight even more because of this dispute. People are enthusiastic because they want to see whether Merab or Dana will win the "war" between the two of them. -CMIIW
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December 24, 2024, 04:07:39 AM
Yup, the Fight Night on 1 Feb in Saudi Arabia looks really decent.
It will be a big test for Adesanya, after which we should know whether he still "got it" or has he lost it for good. He has lost 3 out of his last 4 fights, some say his decline started after that loss to Alex Pereira, but he took a successful revenge and knocked Alex out, which didn't seem like a big thing back then, but now, when Alex is dominating the light heavyweight, maybe we should give Izzy more credit for that.

Shara Vs Page is guaranteed good entertainment, those two do not hold back. Shara is a x1.66 favourite, but anything can happen in that fight. Both are ranked 14th and 15th respectively, so the winner probably won't move up the ranking too much.

Pavlovich Vs Rozenstruik is also interesting, both have a good finishes ratio, including first-round finishes, so I don't expect it to go for more than one round.
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December 24, 2024, 03:27:59 AM
After UFC 311 next event is also cool. We will have Adesanya vs Imavov. That will be a huge test for Imavov, and a first sign for Adesanya retirement and end of peak form, as this is first time he is facing highly above average opponent but not top of top. Also we spoke about Shara Bullet, his eye and possible ban in fighting in US or UFC, but he ie fighting against Page Cheesy
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