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Quote from: Synchronice on January 18, 2025, 04:22:30 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 17, 2025, 02:39:50 PM

No waaaay. Wtf. Arman? How can you spoil such a chance on day before your biggest fight? Damn. It was such a huge fight…

There are rumors that he failed to make weight but was ashamed to admit that, so he called and claimed a false problem. I don't know how true that is but there are these rumors.

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 18, 2025, 04:31:45 AM

I don't know if Arman will get a shot at the title next, when he recovers or is the chance wasted.

Well, Arman did a terrible thing to Dana White. We all know that Dana is a money addict, Arman ruined his plans and instead of generating money, generated a huge loss because now Dana White has to beg and pay tons of money to Moicano.

If it's true that he faked an injury to cover for his weigh-cutting failure, then yeah, Dana will not be happy about it and there surely be some consequences.

Quote from: Synchronice on January 19, 2025, 05:22:11 AM

I'm very happy also because he disappointed Dana White. Dana hates Merab, put Umar in front of him with the hope of Merab losing against him and Umar becoming a new star but this plan failed. I'm simply so excited, I can't find words to write it better, I'm extremely happy. I won a up to $4000, what a nice day it is Cheesy

Congrats and well done.

Merab delivered big time. His cardio was simply amazing and he's got that entertainment factor many fighters are missing. It could be heard by the support he received from the fans, who were cheering him super loudly whenever he was successful.
Very good fight overall, I think we'll see a rematch, maybe not immediately but at some point in the future.
I'm not sure what's next for Merab though, there aren't many worthy opponents for him in the bantamweight at the moment. Maybe a rematch with O'Malley or Yan? I don't know.

I expected Moicano to last a bit longer, but Islam is just that good. Props to Moicano for stepping up and saving the show. To his credit, he did a nice left and put Islam down, but I think it was more of a lost balance that a proper knock down, as Islam did not seem much affected by that.
For those who missed that, here's the full fight (2.5 mins video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0jt3LN8G8

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^ Good bet.. I never saw it coming. Lol. I have always thought Umar Nurmagomedov was gonna be the future champ at 135 the day he set foot in the UFC. I guess Merab Dvalishvili proved that thought wrong. Cheesy

But it was a good fight. Can't really fault Nurmagomedov for losing in this spot. The dumb thing I ever did was bet blindly on him without any value.

But yeah... It is what it is. I just place my bet and let the chips fall where they may. Looks like cardio will be an issue for all of Dvalishvili's future opponents.

Here are the results.

Lightweight: Islam Makhachev def Renato Moicano SUB R1
Bantamweight: Merab Dvalishvili def Umar Nurmagomedov UD
Light Heavyweight: Jiri Prochazka def Jamahal Hill TKO R3
Heavyweight: Jailton Almeida def Serghei Spivac TKO R1
Middleweight: Reinier de Ridder def Kevin Holland SUB R1
Bantamweight: Raoni Barcelos def Payton Talbott UD
Middleweight: Azamat Bekoev def Zachary Reese KO R1
Light Heavyweight: Bogdan Guskov def Billy Elekana SUB R2
Lightweight: Grant Dawson def Carlos Diego Ferreira UD
Women's Bantamweight: Ailin Perez def Karol Rosa UD
Bantamweight: Muin Gafurov def Rinya Nakamura UD
Bantamweight: Bernardo Sopaj def Ricky Turcios UD
Flyweight: Tagir Ulanbekov def Clayton Carpenter UD

UFC 311: Post-Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qosDH0RQyR0

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I'm extremely happy today, I feel so euphoric words can't explain. I didn't sleep yesterday because in last minutes, I decided to place a bet on Merab Dvalishvili, the odd was very exciting and I believed with my whole heart that Merab would win. So, yesterday, I placed 0.012 Bitcoin on Merab's win by decision and I'm extremely happy with the outcome.

Guys, you can't imagine how I wanted to fly in LA and watch the fight in live but oh my god, it's such an expensive experience. Flight is expensive, hotels are expensive, fight tickets are expensive. I hope that Dana White will make some UFC fights in Europe too or Abu Dhabi is good option too.
Guys, I told you many times, Umar is nothing compared to Merab, every fighter is nothing against Merab. My boy Merab won again, he proved everyone wrong, guys, Merab is amazing, the life he went through, he was destined to win.

I'm very happy also because he disappointed Dana White. Dana hates Merab, put Umar in front of him with the hope of Merab losing against him and Umar becoming a new star but this plan failed. I'm simply so excited, I can't find words to write it better, I'm extremely happy. I won a up to $4000, what a nice day it is Cheesy

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Rinya Nakamura SMH.......what a let down, such a huge fav.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 17, 2025, 02:39:50 PM

No waaaay. Wtf. Arman? How can you spoil such a chance on day before your biggest fight? Damn. It was such a huge fight…

There are rumors that he failed to make weight but was ashamed to admit that, so he called and claimed a false problem. I don't know how true that is but there are these rumors.

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 18, 2025, 04:31:45 AM

I don't know if Arman will get a shot at the title next, when he recovers or is the chance wasted.

Well, Arman did a terrible thing to Dana White. We all know that Dana is a money addict, Arman ruined his plans and instead of generating money, generated a huge loss because now Dana White has to beg and pay tons of money to Moicano.

Quote from: l99l on January 18, 2025, 12:28:10 PM

We saw that Arman's muscle mass was increasing, as muscle mass increases, muscle spasms and injuries may be more, Arman Tsarukyan may have pushed his limits a bit for this match.
I was disappointed, I was waiting for this fight to happen. Since it is martial arts, should always keep in mind that there will be such setbacks, in order not to be disappointed, honestly.
Moicano is a good substitute as you said and he is currently in a good position. Islam's entire training and camp process was designed according to Arman. Now, there will be a retreat and he will compete with a completely different fighter.

Muscle Mass takes lots of time to grow and I think Arman didn't have that timeframe but there were speculations that he was on PEDs. I don't know how true it is but I know that it's easy to manipulate muscle by changing lighting and increasing pump, I'm manipulated it multiple times. Overall, it's impossible to gain muscle when you lose fat.

I think that Moicano is a good substitute, I really want to see this fight. It's just sad that probably many Armenians would fly from Armenia to US and it all got wasted in the end because Arman doesn't fight. I also don't like when you pay for X and get Y show, it upsets me.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 18, 2025, 04:31:45 AM

That's a bummer.
I don't know if Arman will get a shot at the title next, when he recovers or is the chance wasted.
Moicano is a decent replacement. On paper, he's not as strong as Tsarukyan, but the fact that Islam training camp was all set for Arman could work in his favour, and maybe he'd be able to throw something at Islam that he's not prepared for.
I guess Beneil will be skipping this one, but hopefully the UFC will pay him some compensation.

We saw that Arman's muscle mass was increasing, as muscle mass increases, muscle spasms and injuries may be more, Arman Tsarukyan may have pushed his limits a bit for this match.
I was disappointed, I was waiting for this fight to happen. Since it is martial arts, should always keep in mind that there will be such setbacks, in order not to be disappointed, honestly.
Moicano is a good substitute as you said and he is currently in a good position. Islam's entire training and camp process was designed according to Arman. Now, there will be a retreat and he will compete with a completely different fighter.

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Quote from: tokeweed on January 18, 2025, 06:42:10 AM

^ Yup, total bummer. The winner of this whole event is Moicano. Pretty sure his pay got bumped up to save this event. And the guy wants to win. But no way he'll get the belt from Makhachev.

That depends on how big the pay boost is. It could be that Moicano signed a contract to be a back up that is not so favourable to him at all. Fighters pulling out on such a short notice for main events are rare, so I don't think he's manager negotiated hard for something that was unlikely to happen.

Now, Moicano was on an uptrend and a win over Dariush would further boost his hype up, increasing his earning potential for future fights. If Islam beats him up with ease, the hype will be over.
Career-wise, Renato has to at least give a good fight and give Islam some challenge tonight and not get finished early.

I don't give him much chances, but maybe he's more likely to defeat Islam than Arman was, just because of the element of surprise and that Islam strategy was set for Arman.

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^ Yup, total bummer. The winner of this whole event is Moicano. Pretty sure his pay got bumped up to save this event. And the guy wants to win. But no way he'll get the belt from Makhachev.

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 17, 2025, 09:27:17 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on January 17, 2025, 07:02:05 AM

^ Dunno guys... We have yet to see any real weaknesses from the top guys who train under Khabib's tutelage. And these are his cousins. So until we see either of those guys lose then I guess we'll start to have some doubts.

What about Makhachev loss? What about Khabibs best friend Zubaira Tukhugov record 20-6 (5-3-1 in UFC) and release from UFC? What about Abubakar Nurmagomedov (went to same class with Makhachev Cheesy

) with 17-4 (2-2 in UFC), left UFC. All of them train with Khabib, under Khabib and his father coaching. Tagir Ulanbekov also trains with them and will be performing at UFC 311, he also does not have a perfect record. And remember that Islam vs Arman first fight was not a beating, not close, but not a total dominance. It was Armans UFC debut and it was a short notice vs a guy who had 7 fights in UFC already.

I was talking about the top guys... And Makhachev was young at that time and no way Tukhugov is a top guy. Lmao. The guy has no cardio. The top guys at Khabib's camp are those ones holding the Nurmagomedov name. I think Makhachev's mom is a Nurmagomedov... But yeah, you get the point.

I mean how could we deny Makhachev's greatness. Who could beat him at 155 rn?

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That's a bummer.
I don't know if Arman will get a shot at the title next, when he recovers or is the chance wasted.
Moicano is a decent replacement. On paper, he's not as strong as Tsarukyan, but the fact that Islam training camp was all set for Arman could work in his favour, and maybe he'd be able to throw something at Islam that he's not prepared for.
I guess Beneil will be skipping this one, but hopefully the UFC will pay him some compensation.

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Quote from: Jinetics1111 on January 17, 2025, 02:13:16 PM

Arman Tsarukyan is officially out of UFC 311 and will be replaced by Renato Moicano.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5BclluLkk

Well that really changes things now.

Islam is going to destroy Moicano, it’s going to be total domination.

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Quote from: Jinetics1111 on January 17, 2025, 02:13:16 PM

Arman Tsarukyan is officially out of UFC 311 and will be replaced by Renato Moicano.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5BclluLkk

Damn. No one saw that coming. At short notice Moicano still accepts this challenge. It's a big chance though. He suddenly gets a title shot.

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Quote from: Jinetics1111 on January 17, 2025, 02:13:16 PM

Arman Tsarukyan is officially out of UFC 311 and will be replaced by Renato Moicano.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBJLJp23Oog

Oh, what a pity, Merab Dvalishvili and Arman Tsarukyan were together in this fight, and they planned to win it together, Arman, who is Armenian but born in Georgia, planned to bring his UFC belt back in Georgia at first with Merab Dvalishvili.
I pray for Merab, I hope nothing bad happens to him and he will be able to fight Umar. Umar has been talking lots of shit about Merab, he called him a coward, which is not true. It's a pity that Magdi left Dvalishvili's gym and trained with Umar because Dvalishvili saved him, took him to his house and helped him.
Umar is confident that Dvalishvili is afraid of him, he will prove that he isn't afraid of anyone. I don't watch UFC but our people are getting champions and very famous in UFC, so I can't skip this moment.

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No waaaay. Wtf. Arman? How can you spoil such a chance on day before your biggest fight? Damn. It was such a huge fight…

Now its Moicano vs Islam. Either a huge upset (not likely) or a fourth title defence and a record of lightweight title defences. If Islam wins, his contribution will be much cool than Khabibs.

P.s. Poor Beneil Grin

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Arman Tsarukyan is officially out of UFC 311 and will be replaced by Renato Moicano.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5BclluLkk

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 16, 2025, 10:30:29 PM

@pawel7777. Arman should not be underestimated. I predict that there might be occurrences in this fight where Arman might appear to be winning the fight. I am very much aware that has lost to Islam already, however, Arman has presently very much improved and he has very much a similar stamina with Islam. This will be a 5 round show similar to a final episode of a television series on who will be the winner because no one will now until the judges has declared the winner. This might end with a split decision and a declaration of an immediate rematch by uncle Dana.

Arman has improved a lot compared to Islam, he seems much more prepared for this match or he has reached his best levels because physically he really looks much better compared to the first match, I think Arman will push Islam more in this fight with his strength and condition increasing, it seems a little more likely.
Everyone sees Islam as if he will keep the belt for a long time, maybe he can, but rivals coming from below like Arman will make a big effort to take the belt from Islam, maybe Arman will even take the belt in this fight.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 16, 2025, 06:39:25 PM

I don't expect any surprises in the main event. Tsarukyan is a solid fighter, but Islam is just slightly better in every aspect of the game. Unless Arman lands some lucky counter-punch, I don't see him winning.

I watched Tsarukyan's recent training videos and I think he is putting his life into it, he is getting very prepared for this fight. I'd love to see him win because Dagestan fighters dominate it for a very long time, I'd love to see something new, a new blood, a new nation. I have nothing against Dagestan fighters but I'd really love to see a new champ.
By the way, Islam is very skilled fighter. I rewatched Islam vs Volkanovski, both fights and I'd say that Islam wasn't in good condition, that's why he lost (for me he lost) first fight against Volkanovski but in second fight, he dominated him.

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 16, 2025, 06:39:25 PM

As for Merab Vs Umar, I think it should be a pretty even fight, despite Umar being a clear favourite. Merab is well-rounded and unpredictable with a really solid wrestling, which could neutralise Umar's biggest strength.

Hill Vs Prochazka - a KO (on either side) is almost guaranteed. Bookies seem to agree, for betting on it going the distance you can get x2.83, while betting on a "No", only x1.35.

To be frank, I haven't watched Umar's fights and it's strange that he is favorite in this match because Merab has been dominating this division for a long time. It's clear that Dana White hates Merab Dvalishvili and wants Umar to win, probably because Saudi Arabia pays him lots of money (they are Muslim fighters, so, it's a support from Muslim world).

I bet on Merab. He will win, he is the Champion and will be!
Hill vs Prochazka is a funny fight for me. If you ask why, then check SloppyMMA's channel on TikTok or Instagram.

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Quote from: tokeweed on January 17, 2025, 07:02:05 AM

^ Dunno guys... We have yet to see any real weaknesses from the top guys who train under Khabib's tutelage. And these are his cousins. So until we see either of those guys lose then I guess we'll start to have some doubts.

What about Makhachev loss? What about Khabibs best friend Zubaira Tukhugov record 20-6 (5-3-1 in UFC) and release from UFC? What about Abubakar Nurmagomedov (went to same class with Makhachev Cheesy

) with 17-4 (2-2 in UFC), left UFC. All of them train with Khabib, under Khabib and his father coaching. Tagir Ulanbekov also trains with them and will be performing at UFC 311, he also does not have a perfect record. And remember that Islam vs Arman first fight was not a beating, not close, but not a total dominance. It was Armans UFC debut and it was a short notice vs a guy who had 7 fights in UFC already.

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^ Dunno guys... We have yet to see any real weaknesses from the top guys who train under Khabib's tutelage. And these are his cousins. So until we see either of those guys lose then I guess we'll start to have some doubts. But right now... Makhachev - Nurmagomedov parlay at 1.77. I think that's good value for two undefeated guys who's prolly gonna remain undefeated in the UFC.

Anyway here are some vids to watch...

UFC 311 Embedded:: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRfK1M94z8o

This is a fun one. Cheesy

UFC 311: Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaoMh0iFz6E

Live weigh ins starts in 4 hours.

UFC 311: Live Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JnSPUcwYoM

Ceremonial weigh ins a few hours later.

UFC 311: Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEGCdaLNlUw

Enjoy...

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In a fight Umar vs Merab I see Merab as a winner. Look at their previous opponents. Umar beat Sandhager only, the rest were someone average level. Merab beat Yan, O'Malley, Tripple C, and did it perfectly, no one even doubted his victories. Maybe as a person Merab is not the most pleasant person do deal with, but in this fight I admire him more.

Islam vs Arman. Last fights show that Islams cardio is not his strength, he eats unnecessary damage. Arman have high chances to knock him out in late rounds. As to Arman, from his interviews (mostly to Russian media), he is not the person I would like to hang out Cheesy

He is twisted on the money. Maybe his wealthy parents spoiled him and his character, maybe something else. But he evaluate people by money, if you are not rich, you will have a special treatment. Dont like how he likes to flash his wealth.

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@pawel7777. Arman should not be underestimated. I predict that there might be occurrences in this fight where Arman might appear to be winning the fight. I am very much aware that has lost to Islam already, however, Arman has presently very much improved and he has very much a similar stamina with Islam. This will be a 5 round show similar to a final episode of a television series on who will be the winner because no one will now until the judges has declared the winner. This might end with a split decision and a declaration of an immediate rematch by uncle Dana.

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