Topic: Whats happening with Betnomi? (Read 4359 times)

Yes that's how important it is to choose a good casino for ourselves, but I don't mean that today's big casinos don't do the same, I'm sure everyone definitely doesn't feel safe now to put big money in casinos because this case is quite attracting people's attention people on forums, luckily I'm not a big gambler and only a small gambler so never had a problem trying to play at small and new casinos even though they went missing and cheated us.

I'm sure everyone doesn't want something like this to happen, maybe this will be a lesson for gamblers not to put big money in casinos because they are worried that the problem will be the same as betnomi, they just leave and disappear without any confirmation to all their users, it's very strange if There are still users who are still expecting them to come back, I think let it go and try to let it go and also take important lessons from this case. I'm sure they will never come back again 

Thank you for your warming words, @Fivestar4everMVP!

Indeed, one should stop torturing themselves and move on at some point. What's lost is lost. As someone wise have rightly said: "If you can't do anything about it, then let it go. Don't be a prisoner to things you can't change".

Sorry for your loss on that  exchange. I feel you, mate. Earn thousand times more in the near future!

unfortunately I must agree with you, 10 years ago when PTC (paid to click) sites were very popular on the internet, many scammers started to create many PTC sites and they had a very common form that made it easier to identify them, which was a lot of promotions and a lot of bonuses, so when people saw a ptc site with a lot of promotions and a lot of bonuses, then people already knew that it was a ptc scam site. Of course, there were other scammers who were much smarter and managed to do things so that people couldn't discover earlier that their website was a scam. By this I mean that this also happens with casinos, for example for a new casino that appears offering a 1000X bonus with few wagering requirements and places a deposit of $10,000 as the minimum amount to be eligible for the bonus.

Looking at this red flag and other red flags that will be in the new casino, then experienced people in the world of gambling will know that they are facing a casino scam. But when the casino has already been on this forum for many months, it becomes more difficult to observe the signs that it is going to become a scam, mainly because the casino representative hires a good campaign manager, keeps making promotions and fulfills when someone wins, does not delay payment. So he creates a scenario in which everyone looks at him and trusts him.

just see that even when the OP of this casino disappeared, people were still waiting for him to come back, a week with the website written that it was under maintenance, and people were still hoping, two weeks with the website under maintenance and the casino representative really disappeared So no one accused the casino of being a scam, because since the casino had been operating for so long, people started to trust them blindly.

In other words, you're saying see them brewing their exit scam strategy by witnessing all of the "evidence" you said above? Because honestly, I can't. Maybe I am naive, because I think when a platform participate so much on the forum and spend so much on promo etc., I'll think they're building a nice reputation. My measurement of questionable platform usually came from their unresolved issues, which they didn't have [much] back then.

Are you implying there is a percentage of the guilt which belongs to the gamblers who decided to trust Betnomi? Because I would highly disagree with that point of view. The fact some service (not only limited to a casino) decided to invest big in their advertisement, promotions and sponsorships; should not be considered to be a red flag of some scam or future exit scam brewing behind the scenes.

In this industry there are so many players which could easily pull such campaigns off, for the sake of their reputation, and there would not be way for them to be considered scammers in the making.

The only ones af fault are them, for both mismanagement of money and theft.

This was a scam and they're not coming back to give you back your money. You could see it brewing by the amount of promo events they were making, sponsoring everything that was happening on the forum like bitcointalk awards, pizza baking competition and all that. They had their fingers in every pie. They had a signature campaign with good rates, their logos and art pieces all around the forum, gave away  hardware wallets with their logos for free...
Usually when this happens you get that voice in the back of your head that they're wasting to much money to build a brand and at the same time another voice tells you that maybe they have a lot of money to spend and are serious about their business. We don't want this to be a scam so we try not to think about it and keep going, like when the car  starts overheating and you keep driving thinking "maybe I can make it home and then I'll fix it."

Yeah when using a service,  most especially online services,  the best thing to do is not to trust them with 100% assurance of maintaining a stable and steady reputation and that is the reason one needs to be careful and not to leave your large funds on such platforms,  because of you don't have too much at stake in such closed projects in form of balance holding it can be easy for you to move on when the going gone bad and also being able to quickly locate and settle for another platform since there are no string attached.

Betnomi one case is one among the many cases that we have come across as per exit scams but then of and when we have full evidence and proof that the casino indeed pulled an exit scam on they clients.

Sure very embarrassing mate, but then, stuffs like this happen to almost everyone from time to time, the best is to learn from it and make sure it doesn't happen to you again. And another thing is to try and look away from what is gone and move on with your life, feeling down and sad will not bring what is lost back, but rather, it will make you unproductive in your work or business, because that time you spend regretting, is a time that would have been used for something more important and productive.

I've always been an advocate of investors not leaving their money on any crypto exchange, but a couple of months ago, i had left $440 dollars on Bkex exchange for over 15 days before they stopped processing withdrawals, they promised that withdrawals will be processed later but its been over 4 months now, i thought about it for a while, but later on decided to just forget about that and move on with my life.

Its always very shameful and embarrassing when one falls a victim to something he or she usually advice other people against, but all the same, that is the irony of life.

I don't get my hopes up much anymore. Too much time has passed. It's just hard to say good-bye to my $400 on the site and sometimes I hope out of desperation. And what else am I supposed to do? Sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy with my false hopes. Sorry, guys.

I always keep saying, "don't risk more than you can afford to lose". And here I am, risking like 20 times more that I can afford to lose. How embarrassing.

Everyone can only speculate and in the end Betnomi is the one who knows why they stopped their business, there are many possibilities that they went bankrupt and suffered huge losses so the only way is to leave without a trace and without prior notification to their users so they have to take their users' money with them. there may still be some left there and I'm sure that won't be enough to cover their losses.

But it's still a crime where taking users' money can't be justified whatever the case, I'm sure they won't come back to this forum again with their betnomi site but maybe they build another new business that we'll never know their next goal, a lot of casinos have been coming in lately after some casinos went out of business as well. Always be careful when playing at a new casino, worried that there will be a second version of betnomi. 

As long as the site have remained down for this long to this very moment, i personally have my strong doubt that the site is never coming back, like you said, they have hit the rocks, what i feel they are waiting for right now is for people to stop talking and all move on, once every of us stop talking and move on now, they will quietly close the site completely without making any noise.

They probably do not want their downfall to be publicized all over social media and news outlet, so this is a strategy they employed to help make sure they quietly exit the gambling industry without raising much dust.

Anyways, this is just what I think, I could be wrong, they might have a different motive of plans altogether, but for now, we just keep watching to see where this all leads to.

You have to first ask yourself that with the level of damage that Betnomi has done, if they return to the forum and pay people that lost in their casino due to their disappearance. They eventually starts operations again, will you be very confident playing with Betnomi again? I think my guess is your answer.
Betnomi cannot return if they have not find a way to earn more or steal more. Having known that their reputation is already ruined, they might not return again even if they had the intention to return.

This is bad for the industry.

I agree with you.If they were to come back and to make things right for everyone I don't think they would wait this long,a really long period has passed which means they intentionally have waited this long for people sadness and anger to have cooled down somewhat,of course if they are ever coming back online,logging a few times does not mean anything except they are just having a look at the situation here.

For me this is another one who has hit the dust and I have strong doubts that the dust will get away and they will come back.

Its funny they did this, i was a streamer for them in theyre early days won 80k and has to beg for 40k to call it even and sorsis paid it out but i took a 40k loss to not eat the whole thing

Nah, that's still a bullshit thing to do because there are other casinos that are paying their players fairly rain or shine, it's not an excuse even if it's a plausible reason to keep your business afloat. If the market is unstable, that would also mean that they're going to be paid in fluctuating prices so that excuse isn't really a good hill to die on.

Let's be serious for a sec here. Let's say Betnomi comes back online, do you really think they will magically start processing wd and make everything right? Look at how well they have communicated with everyone to this point. The owner has logged in a few times as well and i'm sure is well aware of this thread and comments made in their announcement thread.

Don't get your hopes up people.

This must be one of the longest scheduled maintenance I ever seen in my life 
And I dont understand what kind of games are they playing with this message, one week they have this, next week error page, and all over again in circles.
Betnomi is dead, so I am suggesting everyone to stop posting here and moderators to finally lock this topic to avoid more spam.

I don't think that these things means something. After so much time already passed, I wouldn't keep my expectations high that Betnomi will return. These things that you posted only gives false hope.
Personally, I already accepted fact that they made exit scam and I don't expect any positive outcome of this story.

I think that nobody here knows what's really going to happen next with Betnomi after their unexpected exit. Their website went into maintenance in the first days of their disappearance without any further notice on their social media or from their representatives in BTT.
A few days after showing the maintenance message in their website we saw another error and possibly because of deletion of all data inside their server. Surprisingly now as users have been reporting that the past week the maintenance message is back. So perhaps it's a sign that the team has decided to return? Or were they under pressure or afraid of being arrested? Regardless of the reasons for this message return it also indicates that the team is still making changes in the servers and casino data still with them.
Maybe is there still a possibility for users to recover their money stuck inside?