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legendary
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September 18, 2023, 01:35:28 AM


I'm just not a bootlicker for gambling sites. Didn't you also 'promote' for Betnomi at one point?
I did and decided to move on as I had some disagreements with the owner and their timetable for paying staff. Same goes for me though, I had an agreement with Betnomi at the time that all promotion would cease if a legitimate scam popped up against them. While I was working with the site, no scam accusation was ignored to my knowledge.

I don't want you to be a bootlicker or whatever. I would rather a user post their opinion, positive or negative, so i'm not necessarily getting on your case but I feel your blame is misguided partially.

I'm not aware of the details of all the deals people working with Betnomi had, but I know they weren't out to try and help users get scammed. An argument could have been made that they maybe should have stopped a few weeks sooner I suppose, but I think it's fair to say that they were not 100% an exit scam was about to happen. They had faith that the owner would make it right as that was his pattern for a couple years. Late or delayed, but always came through.

You are entitled to your opinion though.
jr. member
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September 18, 2023, 01:28:37 AM
No one was paid to defend them
icopress was. Zero responsibility taken of course. Grifting in the crypto world must be the easiest job in the world.

Well, Ico was paid to promote them, not to defend them, it's a big difference... and through some promotions & bonuses, signature campaigns & sponsored events, we all promoted Betnomi, but all that was a positive experience we had while we participated in all of that attractive stuff on the site. Who could have guessed that they would disappear just like that?

It wasn't up to me or anyone from here that things went the wrong way... some of us lost more or less with this as well. From each of us, you could see many warnings about responsible gambling, and even we get into problems from time to time. Nobody is "bulletproof" here.

You just need to check the betnomi thread to see it wasn't exactly promoting rather than defending. And they can answer for themselves if they weren't ducking this thread. Like I said, funny how everyone is absolved of responsibility when it all goes wrong.
You're just a bundle of negativity in everything you comment in aren't you. When someone is promoting a site, they cannot and will not be held responsible if the site scams as long as when a big scam is proven they stop promoting. It's impossible to know if/when a site can or will scam.

Now by big scam I mean more than a few accusations in the scam section because we all know that 90% of the accusations in there are total bs. Big scam like what's going on now, the exit scam.

Being a regular user on betnomi for a bit, I really don't see how very many lost a bunch period. I barely ever seen anyone playing there unless it was a poker tourney sponsored or they did dumbass VIP transfers. Other then that, the site was pretty dead. Doesn't make it ok for them to exit on everyone who had a balance, but I'd bet the legitimate scam total was barely 20k IMO.

I'm just not a bootlicker for gambling sites. Didn't you also 'promote' for Betnomi at one point?
legendary
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September 17, 2023, 03:42:36 PM
No one was paid to defend them
icopress was. Zero responsibility taken of course. Grifting in the crypto world must be the easiest job in the world.

Well, Ico was paid to promote them, not to defend them, it's a big difference... and through some promotions & bonuses, signature campaigns & sponsored events, we all promoted Betnomi, but all that was a positive experience we had while we participated in all of that attractive stuff on the site. Who could have guessed that they would disappear just like that?

It wasn't up to me or anyone from here that things went the wrong way... some of us lost more or less with this as well. From each of us, you could see many warnings about responsible gambling, and even we get into problems from time to time. Nobody is "bulletproof" here.

You just need to check the betnomi thread to see it wasn't exactly promoting rather than defending. And they can answer for themselves if they weren't ducking this thread. Like I said, funny how everyone is absolved of responsibility when it all goes wrong.
You're just a bundle of negativity in everything you comment in aren't you. When someone is promoting a site, they cannot and will not be held responsible if the site scams as long as when a big scam is proven they stop promoting. It's impossible to know if/when a site can or will scam.

Now by big scam I mean more than a few accusations in the scam section because we all know that 90% of the accusations in there are total bs. Big scam like what's going on now, the exit scam.

Being a regular user on betnomi for a bit, I really don't see how very many lost a bunch period. I barely ever seen anyone playing there unless it was a poker tourney sponsored or they did dumbass VIP transfers. Other then that, the site was pretty dead. Doesn't make it ok for them to exit on everyone who had a balance, but I'd bet the legitimate scam total was barely 20k IMO.
legendary
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September 17, 2023, 03:26:44 PM
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You just need to check the betnomi thread to see it wasn't exactly promoting rather than defending. And they can answer for themselves if they weren't ducking this thread. Like I said, funny how everyone is absolved of responsibility when it all goes wrong.

Well, I was active in that thread, and I had a good time playing poker on Betnomi with some other forum members... and it was the only place where I could play "Farkle". I take responsibility, I played there and I had some quality time, and I wrote about that... like many others. Their disappearance was a surprise for all of us here.

Nobody is "ducking" this thread, it's pointless to discuss it more... I think that only some serious legal action against the Betnomi team can finish this story. But who is eager to spend money on that? That's why crypto gambling is like a "wild west", we all gamble with crypto casinos.
legendary
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September 17, 2023, 03:10:25 PM
From all you points, I believe the third one is the most likely to hold anyone from buying his account, because there are real chances much people around here being clueless on this situation and also, as far as I understand how the trust system works, it would take someone to be logged on to appreciate their negative feedback, some potential buyer without an account and seeing Betnomi's posts could be fooled.


Nope, the type-1 flag will still be there and welcoming them once they see betnomi's post. After all, that's the specific purpose of the flag, to warn newbies and guests.



Though, the name  of the account should, at least, raise a red flag and prompt anyone to search for it on the internet.
But if they do not intend to sell their account, what other reason would they have to do such apparently meaningless move...?

Boredom? Or, the digital equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes.
jr. member
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September 17, 2023, 02:49:39 PM
No one was paid to defend them
icopress was. Zero responsibility taken of course. Grifting in the crypto world must be the easiest job in the world.

Well, Ico was paid to promote them, not to defend them, it's a big difference... and through some promotions & bonuses, signature campaigns & sponsored events, we all promoted Betnomi, but all that was a positive experience we had while we participated in all of that attractive stuff on the site. Who could have guessed that they would disappear just like that?

It wasn't up to me or anyone from here that things went the wrong way... some of us lost more or less with this as well. From each of us, you could see many warnings about responsible gambling, and even we get into problems from time to time. Nobody is "bulletproof" here.

You just need to check the betnomi thread to see it wasn't exactly promoting rather than defending. And they can answer for themselves if they weren't ducking this thread. Like I said, funny how everyone is absolved of responsibility when it all goes wrong.
legendary
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September 17, 2023, 02:09:28 PM
I also noticed they were active on 6th of this month, I tried to see if they posted anything regarding all this mess, but I could not find anything when I checked.

By the way, what is even the point of doing such a thing like trying to manipulate trust in such way, knowing it wont solve anything?
Is there a possibility there are trying to make all the trust not to appear for themselves, so they can sell the account to someone who is unaware of their scam? It would make sense if they are trying to deceive someone who believes to be buying a neutral-trust high rank account here...

No, it would not make sense for three reasons.

One, the chaos that ensue when they left lingered for a quite long time and echoed probably to a lot of boards on this forum. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of users heard about the case.

Two, even if someone happened to be clueless about the case and interested to buy the account, they will appraise the account from their own, or from a guest account, and not from betnomi's own [I extremely doubted betnomi will, "here's the account, here's the password, see our trust score for yourself and then kindly return the account to us"] and the trust [and newbie flag] will still be there.

Three, I don't see a reason for buy an account with such a specific name tied to a brand. Never buy an account here, so I wouldn't know, but I assume they'll prefer an account named "popcorn123" or "rachel_something" than a "betnomi"

From all you points, I believe the third one is the most likely to hold anyone from buying his account, because there are real chances much people around here being clueless on this situation and also, as far as I understand how the trust system works, it would take someone to be logged on to appreciate their negative feedback, some potential buyer without an account and seeing Betnomi's posts could be fooled.

Though, the name  of the account should, at least, raise a red flag and prompt anyone to search for it on the internet.
But if they do not intend to sell their account, what other reason would they have to do such apparently meaningless move...?
legendary
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September 17, 2023, 06:50:12 AM
I also noticed they were active on 6th of this month, I tried to see if they posted anything regarding all this mess, but I could not find anything when I checked.

By the way, what is even the point of doing such a thing like trying to manipulate trust in such way, knowing it wont solve anything?
Is there a possibility there are trying to make all the trust not to appear for themselves, so they can sell the account to someone who is unaware of their scam? It would make sense if they are trying to deceive someone who believes to be buying a neutral-trust high rank account here...

No, it would not make sense for three reasons.

One, the chaos that ensue when they left lingered for a quite long time and echoed probably to a lot of boards on this forum. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of users heard about the case.

Two, even if someone happened to be clueless about the case and interested to buy the account, they will appraise the account from their own, or from a guest account, and not from betnomi's own [I extremely doubted betnomi will, "here's the account, here's the password, see our trust score for yourself and then kindly return the account to us"] and the trust [and newbie flag] will still be there.

Three, I don't see a reason for buy an account with such a specific name tied to a brand. Never buy an account here, so I wouldn't know, but I assume they'll prefer an account named "popcorn123" or "rachel_something" than a "betnomi"
sr. member
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September 17, 2023, 06:36:29 AM
thus the negative won't shown on their page from their perspective.
The digital equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes.

I also noticed they were active on 6th of this month, I tried to see if they posted anything regarding all this mess, but I could not find anything when I checked.

By the way, what is even the point of doing such a thing like trying to manipulate trust in such way, knowing it wont solve anything?
Is there a possibility there are trying to make all the trust not to appear for themselves, so they can sell the account to someone who is unaware of their scam? It would make sense if they are trying to deceive someone who believes to be buying a neutral-trust high rank account here...

Elite forum users will easily notice that if there's sudden changes on forum activity and that will not be missed if there's possibilities of selling high ranking account here. And also many already know about past incident happen so if there's attempt to deceive people I'm sure that it will not succeed here. To many people have excellent minds towards such schemes so I also think that there's nothing to.worry about that.
legendary
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September 16, 2023, 06:49:15 PM
thus the negative won't shown on their page from their perspective.
The digital equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes.

I also noticed they were active on 6th of this month, I tried to see if they posted anything regarding all this mess, but I could not find anything when I checked.

By the way, what is even the point of doing such a thing like trying to manipulate trust in such way, knowing it wont solve anything?
Is there a possibility there are trying to make all the trust not to appear for themselves, so they can sell the account to someone who is unaware of their scam? It would make sense if they are trying to deceive someone who believes to be buying a neutral-trust high rank account here...
legendary
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September 16, 2023, 01:19:00 PM
No one was paid to defend them
icopress was. Zero responsibility taken of course. Grifting in the crypto world must be the easiest job in the world.

Well, Ico was paid to promote them, not to defend them, it's a big difference... and through some promotions & bonuses, signature campaigns & sponsored events, we all promoted Betnomi, but all that was a positive experience we had while we participated in all of that attractive stuff on the site. Who could have guessed that they would disappear just like that?

It wasn't up to me or anyone from here that things went the wrong way... some of us lost more or less with this as well. From each of us, you could see many warnings about responsible gambling, and even we get into problems from time to time. Nobody is "bulletproof" here.
legendary
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September 16, 2023, 12:11:07 PM
Betnomi was an exit scam from the beginning. There were manys cam accustions but these stupid paid muppets with high rank defended this scam site, royse and yahoo*** get paid to defend this scam, its their fault also that there are many victims now. You see what happens when you are naive and dont listen

How does royse get paid to defend them, again? Far as I know, he doesn't even have any business with them, not even as a campaign or competition manager?

No one was paid to defend them

icopress was. Zero responsibility taken of course. Grifting in the crypto world must be the easiest job in the world.

As a campaign manager, not to defend them. And that duty was long finished before the situation happened. Their campaign ended before all of this clusterfuck. In fact, if you read and follow the discussions about betnomi, you'll learn that icopress also suffered a damage from their act and he's been trying his best pursuing betnomi's representative to clear things up, so that can be considered as taking some responsibility.
jr. member
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September 16, 2023, 11:03:19 AM
Betnomi was an exit scam from the beginning. There were manys cam accustions but these stupid paid muppets with high rank defended this scam site, royse and yahoo*** get paid to defend this scam, its their fault also that there are many victims now. You see what happens when you are naive and dont listen

How does royse get paid to defend them, again? Far as I know, he doesn't even have any business with them, not even as a campaign or competition manager?

No one was paid to defend them

icopress was. Zero responsibility taken of course. Grifting in the crypto world must be the easiest job in the world.
legendary
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September 11, 2023, 02:42:27 AM
thus the negative won't shown on their page from their perspective.
The digital equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes.
legendary
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September 10, 2023, 11:42:20 AM
I agree that this topic should have been locked like... since few pages ago and not trying to beat the dead horse here, also it's not my habit to check someone else's trust list, but... recent case that I read made me curious, and one thing lead to another...

It's been made known that betnomi was online on 6th of September for no apparent reason, but I think I just found out why and that's because betnomi tried to "clean" their trust feedback. At least cosmetically, or whatever you like to call them. Their current feedback as per this post being made is:



and it seems they tried to "remove" the negative score by distrusting all who leave negative feedback on them, thus the negative won't shown on their page from their perspective.

legendary
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September 10, 2023, 06:15:37 AM
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And why there's no news about their "exit scam"? It's big news, isn't it?
I mean... it's crypto, it's not like any big international news agency will catch the story of a small crypto casino closing shop...

Thank you for your reply! It's a meritable stuff for sure. Smiley

Now. I must say I didn't know it was a small casino. I thought tens of millions of dollars were kept on the site. And it would be a world news an exit scam like that. Was I wrong? I don't know, but at this point I'm starting losing my hope.
legendary
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September 08, 2023, 03:25:32 PM
Not sure why people are still posting in this thread. It has now been months and we know that Betnomi is not retuning at this point. I don't even encourage victims to post here at this point, I would ask that they post a scam accusation and open a flag. @ligz close this thread as anything posted here is just sig spam at this point.
full member
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September 08, 2023, 03:11:28 PM
This thread has old and this happened since June or July that means by now betnomi would have be resolved their problem I have not checked the recent comment or discussion of people if they have resolved their site problem, but sometimes when platform especially gambling websites is having an issues continuously that means that maybe they want to take their leave and go or their on maintenance, so this two things are involve in any gambling websites, but betnomi have firm already and I don't expect them to leave like that, what i suspected that may be the issues is maintenance, i will read other comments to verify, sorry that I did check the last page before giving my own suggestions

Next time, may I suggest to read at least one or two last page? Or if that's quite difficult to do, several of the latest post to get ahold of the situation instead of just posting for --what I can only assume as-- meeting a weekly quota?

Here's some highlight: They left, not a maintenance.
In my statement i accepted my mistakes by not going down on the pages and mostly the last pages to check the last discussion, but this is taken as correction,  for the aspect of the maintenance, i assumed that if it's a new comment or a new post maybe the went for maintenance not knowing that they have left, i think I even make similar suggestions that some of the platform use to leave not to exit through having issues with their platform and later they will not return again, so my wrongs is that have not read the current discussions to know the down part of the discussion but I'm sorry for that.
legendary
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September 08, 2023, 02:40:59 PM
This thread has old and this happened since June or July that means by now betnomi would have be resolved their problem I have not checked the recent comment or discussion of people if they have resolved their site problem, but sometimes when platform especially gambling websites is having an issues continuously that means that maybe they want to take their leave and go or their on maintenance, so this two things are involve in any gambling websites, but betnomi have firm already and I don't expect them to leave like that, what i suspected that may be the issues is maintenance, i will read other comments to verify, sorry that I did check the last page before giving my own suggestions

Next time, may I suggest to read at least one or two last page? Or if that's quite difficult to do, several of the latest post to get ahold of the situation instead of just posting for --what I can only assume as-- meeting a weekly quota?

Here's some highlight: They left, not a maintenance.
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September 08, 2023, 02:24:51 PM
Anyone know what is happening with Betnomi?
the sportsbook has not been working for over a week
and withdrawals have been pending for even longer.
Not just for me but for everyone.


This thread has old and this happened since June or July that means by now betnomi would have be resolved their problem I have not checked the recent comment or discussion of people if they have resolved their site problem, but sometimes when platform especially gambling websites is having an issues continuously that means that maybe they want to take their leave and go or their on maintenance, so this two things are involve in any gambling websites, but betnomi have firm already and I don't expect them to leave like that, what i suspected that may be the issues is maintenance, i will read other comments to verify, sorry that I did check the last page before giving my own suggestions
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