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legendary
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August 26, 2023, 07:50:25 AM
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Well, I don't see the point as well. It looks like some fictional scenario, but even if that is the case here that "someone's life" is in danger he could inform at least someone about what's happening. And "months" are passing... At this point, does anyone here really believe we will see Betnomi online again? In the near or distant future?

I do. As others have said in this thread above, since recently we are seeing this message again:



I made this screenshot today, and I think it means they are not abandoning their  site, they are trying to fix it, whatever happened with it. When they are back, they may explain to us what happened and they may not. What's important to me personally is that they come back with all our funds intact and let us play on their site, that used to be one of the best gambling platforms on the internet.
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August 24, 2023, 05:18:57 PM

This can be very annoying and no one thought this can ever happen with this kind of casino that most gamblers had been using for a while now. If they are having a scheduled maintenance then that shouldn't be so long like that.

This is taking over many days now and it make no sense to be doing maintenance for a very long time. I think there is something wrong with the casino that we don't know about. If things can be adjusted then it will be fine if the problem can be stated rather letting there customers to be waiting for too long for us making people to be having the wrong thought of whether it has trashed.
I think,  betnomi situation have gone beyond maintenance since there was not even any prior notice on maintenance how then can we base this crisis on maintenance,  so I don't think so and my personal observation points to the direction of a planned exit from the market deciding to walk away with everyone money and closing the door on the face of those who left the money on the casino.

This is not good at all,  and with the level things have gone,  I don't think we will see anything positive coming from them soon or even forever,  feel bad for those who fall victim to Betnomi's actions being affected directly.
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August 24, 2023, 04:43:51 PM
Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.
If that happens they should be ready to answer some hard questions, and it is not going to trust them again.

Scheduled maintenance that lasts a month? Not something that's likely to happen to a legit site. I will be amazed to see them come back to even explain this.
Running a business is like borrowing money. You have people's money and you don't let them know what's up? You just disappear for weeks? Normal people don't act like this.

It's over and the team is compromised. There's no chance for a relaunch after this disaster.
This can be very annoying and no one thought this can ever happen with this kind of casino that most gamblers had been using for a while now. If they are having a scheduled maintenance then that shouldn't be so long like that.

This is taking over many days now and it make no sense to be doing maintenance for a very long time. I think there is something wrong with the casino that we don't know about. If things can be adjusted then it will be fine if the problem can be stated rather letting there customers to be waiting for too long for us making people to be having the wrong thought of whether it has trashed.
legendary
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August 24, 2023, 03:59:52 PM
Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.
If that happens they should be ready to answer some hard questions, and it is not going to trust them again.

Scheduled maintenance that lasts a month? Not something that's likely to happen to a legit site. I will be amazed to see them come back to even explain this.
Running a business is like borrowing money. You have people's money and you don't let them know what's up? You just disappear for weeks? Normal people don't act like this.

It's over and the team is compromised. There's no chance for a relaunch after this disaster.
Why they even bother to put that message up again? Could it be that it's just for causing more confusion and potentially slows down processing time for legal approach people are taking. It's hard to say as this is such a clear scam that any attempt to signal it's not wouldn't fool anyone.

I am hoping people get some of their money back but i wouldn't count on it. If they exit scam they must have to avoid getting immediately caught. Would be strange if they haven't covered their tracks and just had winged it.
legendary
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August 24, 2023, 02:18:50 PM
Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.
If that happens they should be ready to answer some hard questions, and it is not going to trust them again.

Scheduled maintenance that lasts a month? Not something that's likely to happen to a legit site. I will be amazed to see them come back to even explain this.
Running a business is like borrowing money. You have people's money and you don't let them know what's up? You just disappear for weeks? Normal people don't act like this.

It's over and the team is compromised. There's no chance for a relaunch after this disaster.
legendary
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August 24, 2023, 02:15:54 PM
Yep, they have brought back the maintenance message again. The maintenance message was removed on the 25th July, and they have added it again on 24th August. Let's wait and see the next move of Betnomi team. If Betnomi goes live again, then Sorsis will say that they did a sloppy job, not scammy Cheesy.
Wait for how long? One month? Two months or more?
Maybe sorsis will come back and say that he and all his betnomi team was on long summer vacation and they forgot to write any announcement for that  Grin
I see no good explanation why they would keep maintenance message, than remove it and than bring it up again.
legendary
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August 24, 2023, 02:05:02 PM
Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.
Yep, they have brought back the maintenance message again. The maintenance message was removed on the 25th July, and they have added it again on 24th August. Let's wait and see the next move of Betnomi team. If Betnomi goes live again, then Sorsis will say that they did a sloppy job, not scammy Cheesy.

I will admit we did some pretty sloppy job with our canceled ICO but, that was all it was sloppy, not scammy.
legendary
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August 24, 2023, 01:07:18 PM
Anyone checked Betnomi website today?
Sorry, we're down for scheduled maintenance - message is back again, so there is still some hope they could come back with some incredible story to tell.
If that happens they should be ready to answer some hard questions, and it is not going to trust them again.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 08:16:33 AM
At this point, does anyone here really believe we will see Betnomi online again? In the near or distant future?
We all believe even though they will come back and come back online will they gain trust again in this forum after they disappeared without a word and left people waiting all this time, I think it will be another waste of time to build their reputation in this forum, for sure people will immediately withdraw then leave this site and never gamble on this site again.

That's what their gamblers might do if they come back online in the near future or later, but everything returns to each other and I'm sure on average they don't trust this site anymore, because they just disappeared without a team who clarifies or whatever in this forum. it's obvious their site name has been busted in this forum
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 04:19:54 AM
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You are not mistaken, that's right. But then you remember that someone's life was in danger, not someone's money.

Umm... point?

If you're proposing that in the fictional scenario, the situation is more dire than what happened here [life v. money] and thus their staffs are more motivated to reach the founder to solve the situation, I'd like to remind you that the founder of this platform knows what happened before he disappeared.

If he's in an emergency [that's what inferred from one of his last communication with icopress, not traveling] and intended to keep the integrity of his platform, given he's aware of the situation, he can point one or two of his staffs to be the acting director.

Well, I don't see the point as well. It looks like some fictional scenario, but even if that is the case here that "someone's life" is in danger he could inform at least someone about what's happening. And "months" are passing... At this point, does anyone here really believe we will see Betnomi online again? In the near or distant future?
legendary
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August 19, 2023, 02:09:54 PM
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Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, [...]

If I am not mistaken, the crisis in that episode ended in less than one day, if not mere hours, and definitely not weeks. And if we take a second to suppose that's what happened, Sorsis took a month-off, it still doesn't explain the other situation where the entire website slowly dissipates into void, admins of tg goes frenzy, social medias followed the website into the void, etc.

You are not mistaken, that's right. But then you remember that someone's life was in danger, not someone's money.

Umm... point?

If you're proposing that in the fictional scenario, the situation is more dire than what happened here [life v. money] and thus their staffs are more motivated to reach the founder to solve the situation, I'd like to remind you that the founder of this platform knows what happened before he disappeared.

If he's in an emergency [that's what inferred from one of his last communication with icopress, not traveling] and intended to keep the integrity of his platform, given he's aware of the situation, he can point one or two of his staffs to be the acting director.
hero member
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August 19, 2023, 09:12:05 AM
Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, namely: you create a big and very profitable business, make a lot of money, and decide to take a rest in some remote place with no mobile or internet for 2-3 months. Unprofessional? Very much so. But humanly it can be understood. It may be a lifetime opportunity to spend couple of months like that. You are making big money, but you've noticed that you can't rest peacefully, you are always getting phone calls and messages needing your attention, even on holidays. So, one day ypu decide, I have to do it at least once in my life. You put everything on auto-pilot, take your family and friends, and disappear for a summer.

I have to say, I am not a businessman. I'm just a regular guy trying to understand this world. Smiley
Lmao. This is one crazy theory. I have never seen that TV show, but I heard about it and my interest in it has risen thanks to your example. Anyway, I don't think the same happened with Betnomi.

Why would some of their employees delete telegram messages if that were the case? They just bolted plain and simple.

As I said, they "put everything on auto-pilot". Their employees are doing what they think they should be doing, but they can't contact the board to check if it's right.

Haha, you're one persistent dude! But seriously, where on earth do you even find employees willing to work for months without getting paid? I'm curious! Also, deleting customer comments asking about their money with no explanation? That's a total scam company move!

It might be not him. See above.

He is still active on Telegram. See above.
legendary
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August 19, 2023, 05:26:27 AM
Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, namely: you create a big and very profitable business, make a lot of money, and decide to take a rest in some remote place with no mobile or internet for 2-3 months. Unprofessional? Very much so. But humanly it can be understood. It may be a lifetime opportunity to spend couple of months like that. You are making big money, but you've noticed that you can't rest peacefully, you are always getting phone calls and messages needing your attention, even on holidays. So, one day ypu decide, I have to do it at least once in my life. You put everything on auto-pilot, take your family and friends, and disappear for a summer.

I have to say, I am not a businessman. I'm just a regular guy trying to understand this world. Smiley
Lmao. This is one crazy theory. I have never seen that TV show, but I heard about it and my interest in it has risen thanks to your example. Anyway, I don't think the same happened with Betnomi.

Why would some of their employees delete telegram messages if that were the case? They just bolted plain and simple.

As I said, they "put everything on auto-pilot". Their employees are doing what they think they should be doing, but they can't contact the board to check if it's right.

Here's my theory. <...>

That theory wouldn't explain why he would need other people's money if he simply wanted a break from it all. Moreover, you can still spot him online on Telegram, even though he refrains from posting anything in the official Betnomi group. Instead, he seems to be deleting messages from people who are voicing complaints.

Here's my theory: he's a scammer!

It might be not him. See above.

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My man Betwrong... I hope that we are far from a Black Mirror reality. And even if that is the case here, in what I really doubt, running a casino is not just any kind of business where you can just decide to close the doors and disappear for a few months.

I am just a regular guy as well, and I think it's too late for any excuses...

I think it's never too late. Germany, as a nation, still apologizes for the Holocaust. Well, Betnomi team disappearing without a word isn't Holocaust, but as my favourite comedian Ricky Gervais would say, it's almost as bad. Smiley At least for some of us it's really bad if we lose all that money on the site. I hope it won't happen.

[...]
Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, [...]

If I am not mistaken, the crisis in that episode ended in less than one day, if not mere hours, and definitely not weeks. And if we take a second to suppose that's what happened, Sorsis took a month-off, it still doesn't explain the other situation where the entire website slowly dissipates into void, admins of tg goes frenzy, social medias followed the website into the void, etc.

You are not mistaken, that's right. But then you remember that someone's life was in danger, not someone's money.
legendary
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August 12, 2023, 08:08:16 PM
[...]
Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, [...]

If I am not mistaken, the crisis in that episode ended in less than one day, if not mere hours, and definitely not weeks. And if we take a second to suppose that's what happened, Sorsis took a month-off, it still doesn't explain the other situation where the entire website slowly dissipates into void, admins of tg goes frenzy, social medias followed the website into the void, etc.
legendary
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August 12, 2023, 12:57:43 PM
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With all due respect (and you know I like and respect you a lot), you have got to be kidding here, no?  Huh

Thank you, @efialtis. I respect you a lot too.

Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, namely: you create a big and very profitable business, make a lot of money, and decide to take a rest in some remote place with no mobile or internet for 2-3 months. Unprofessional? Very much so. But humanly it can be understood. It may be a lifetime opportunity to spend couple of months like that. You are making big money, but you've noticed that you can't rest peacefully, you are always getting phone calls and messages needing your attention, even on holidays. So, one day ypu decide, I have to do it at least once in my life. You put everything on auto-pilot, take your family and friends, and disappear for a summer.

I have to say, I am not a businessman. I'm just a regular guy trying to understand this world. Smiley

My man Betwrong... I hope that we are far from a Black Mirror reality. And even if that is the case here, in what I really doubt, running a casino is not just any kind of business where you can just decide to close the doors and disappear for a few months.

I am just a regular guy as well, and I think it's too late for any excuses...
legendary
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August 12, 2023, 12:25:41 PM
Did sorsis also created that channel?
Yep, Sorsis was the creator of Betnomi's telegram channel too. The first message (check it) in the telegram channel was also from Sorsis, some previous messages are deleted though.

Here's my theory ~snip~
Your theory is interesting, but funny. The admin of Betnomi isn't in the dark world where the internet isn't available. He has closed the website with the funds of the user without saying anything.
hero member
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August 12, 2023, 07:21:27 AM
Here's my theory. <...>

That theory wouldn't explain why he would need other people's money if he simply wanted a break from it all. Moreover, you can still spot him online on Telegram, even though he refrains from posting anything in the official Betnomi group. Instead, he seems to be deleting messages from people who are voicing complaints.

Here's my theory: he's a scammer!
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August 12, 2023, 07:04:11 AM
Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, namely: you create a big and very profitable business, make a lot of money, and decide to take a rest in some remote place with no mobile or internet for 2-3 months. Unprofessional? Very much so. But humanly it can be understood. It may be a lifetime opportunity to spend couple of months like that. You are making big money, but you've noticed that you can't rest peacefully, you are always getting phone calls and messages needing your attention, even on holidays. So, one day ypu decide, I have to do it at least once in my life. You put everything on auto-pilot, take your family and friends, and disappear for a summer.

I have to say, I am not a businessman. I'm just a regular guy trying to understand this world. Smiley
Lmao. This is one crazy theory. I have never seen that TV show, but I heard about it and my interest in it has risen thanks to your example. Anyway, I don't think the same happened with Betnomi.

Why would some of their employees delete telegram messages if that were the case? They just bolted plain and simple.
legendary
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August 12, 2023, 06:04:10 AM
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With all due respect (and you know I like and respect you a lot), you have got to be kidding here, no?  Huh

Thank you, @efialtis. I respect you a lot too.

Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, namely: you create a big and very profitable business, make a lot of money, and decide to take a rest in some remote place with no mobile or internet for 2-3 months. Unprofessional? Very much so. But humanly it can be understood. It may be a lifetime opportunity to spend couple of months like that. You are making big money, but you've noticed that you can't rest peacefully, you are always getting phone calls and messages needing your attention, even on holidays. So, one day ypu decide, I have to do it at least once in my life. You put everything on auto-pilot, take your family and friends, and disappear for a summer.

I have to say, I am not a businessman. I'm just a regular guy trying to understand this world. Smiley
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August 12, 2023, 04:20:27 AM
I think there should be something called owner badge in telegram for person who created telegram group, this is different from admins.
Only owner can delete it.

There is, but I think it's only visible to other admins/mods. Not sure about it tho, but if any GOSU could go into the group chat and scroll the member list until you see what it shows for efi... (I can see him as admin on the chat, but owner on the member list)
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