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Quote from: niothor on January 03, 2014, 06:13:57 AM

Quote from: BunworthBanshee on January 02, 2014, 07:33:12 PM

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People cling to memories here ...like people saying the nokia 3210 is the best phone ever made.

Wohoo Wo Wo!!!!

Now your getting serious. The 3210 was and still is a legend. how dare you dis the greatest bit of tech ever made, Wink

with that statement, you just lost your argument.

I bid you goodnight sir Cool

Would you trade your phone for a 3210? Would you still use a 3210?

I loved that phone , and the 3330 , and I kept a t68i for 4 years repairing it two times after I dropped once and my dog bite it once , refusing to switch to a new one for a long time but... I wouldn't use them again.
Just like you said they are legends , nice to remember but in practice... useless.

So , would you trade your phone for a 3210? I think i still have it somewhere , and it was functional the last time I checked.

Oh man so many memories with that phone...thanks for the flashbacks.

Having said that, I couldn't trade my HTC One for it.

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Quote from: BunworthBanshee on January 02, 2014, 07:33:12 PM

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People cling to memories here ...like people saying the nokia 3210 is the best phone ever made.

Wohoo Wo Wo!!!!

Now your getting serious. The 3210 was and still is a legend. how dare you dis the greatest bit of tech ever made, Wink

with that statement, you just lost your argument.

I bid you goodnight sir Cool

Would you trade your phone for a 3210? Would you still use a 3210?

I loved that phone , and the 3330 , and I kept a t68i for 4 years repairing it two times after I dropped once and my dog bite it once , refusing to switch to a new one for a long time but... I wouldn't use them again.
Just like you said they are legends , nice to remember but in practice... useless.

So , would you trade your phone for a 3210? I think i still have it somewhere , and it was functional the last time I checked.

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 03:49:36 PM

Some bryant.coleman says here that Russia is having the largest number of nuclear weapons in the world which make the best intercontinental ballistic missiles out there as well as the best air-defense systems in the world...

Do you really think I would rather believe you after you faked the Chinese landing on the Moon?

Yes. I said that and I stand by firmly over what I said. Russia is another game altogether. China and Japan can't match Russia. China has manpower, Japan has technology. Russia has both.

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People cling to memories here ...like people saying the nokia 3210 is the best phone ever made.

Wohoo Wo Wo!!!!

Now your getting serious. The 3210 was and still is a legend. how dare you dis the greatest bit of tech ever made, Wink

with that statement, you just lost your argument.

I bid you goodnight sir Cool

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 06:33:19 PM

Yes, since its barrel is almost 4 inches longer. A sniper rifle would still be better...

'Struth, but sniper rifles don't get issued to just anybody, and we were using the 5.56mm rounds with the M16s so the 7.62mm rounds for the sniper rifles would have been a supply issue.

AK's were locally abundant, and the quartermaster could get ammo easily from the black market, which meant he didn't have to go through top brass and we could often have ammo in hand faster than if he had. That had its down side too; some of the guys used AK's, which were sort of 'invisible' to paperwork for us, for ops that top brass definitely would not have approved.

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Quote from: Cryddit on January 02, 2014, 06:29:01 PM

During daylight engagements, everybody wanted the M16s because they were a hell of a lot more accurate and more effective at longer ranges.

Yes, since its barrel is almost 4 inches longer. A sniper rifle would still be better...

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 04:27:23 PM

Even US special forces used captured AK-47's in Vietnam, lol

That was mostly about how distinctive the sounds of the weapons are. US soldiers with M16 Rifles were easily identifiable in a firefight, but AKs sounded like the locals. Because the US had better Infrared/Nightvision/C³I, we were confident of being able to tell friend from foe regardless of the sound, but hoped the Viet Cong wouldn't be able to tell who was whom in the dark.

During daylight engagements, everybody wanted the M16s because they were a hell of a lot more accurate and more effective at longer ranges.

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Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 05:32:37 PM

Common , the ak is just another myth , like the migs and that damn T I ~~spent~~ wasted 12 months cramped in.

People whose life is at stake aren't easily taken on myths. Try selling your shit to someone else, I'm definitely not the right type to apply to...

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 05:17:57 PM

I wouldn't expect people choose garbage if their whole life depended on it. You seem to be very far from reality and still parting. Just quoting below one american SpecOps guy

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99.99% of soldiers do not have a choice in what they carry, the ones that do choose the AK 99.99% of the time

And yes, I'm more than familiar with AK-74, lol

God damn , you're Russian if i'm right , and since conscription is still mandatory , you should have fired one .
What was your hit rate , and at what distance?

Common , the ak is just another myth , like the migs and that damn T I ~~spent~~ wasted 12 months cramped in.
Take the MIGs for example , they went fast and furious in the beginning and now they have more crashes due to failures than the enemy shot down.
And if we talk about how many enemies the migs did hit lately.....
Times are changing and the Russian and Chinese weapons are falling behind.

People cling to memories here ...like people saying the nokia 3210 is the best phone ever made.

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Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 05:02:46 PM

Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 04:27:23 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 04:03:23 PM

Just like the Kalashnikov is a very good gun , works in snow mud water , too bad that when it comes to actually hitting something you have to empty 3 rounds to hit the damn elephant.

I don't ignore anyone, but this would be enough to put you there, since this would overwhelm the amount of garbage you produce here. I think that the choice of millions of rebels, insurgents, and whatnot who can part with their life any day speaks louder than your words...

Even US special forces used captured AK-47's in Vietnam, lol

Common don't be a moron , the ak is one inaccurate piece of garbage.
It works wonders in close combat and in ambushes but when the targets gets beyond 200 you have to switch weapons or dig your way to hell.

It's one simple weapon and you can even pee on it and it will work (did that with one of my fellows's ak) ,but there are tons more which I would prefer if my country would send me to the battlefield.

Have you ever fired with one?

I wouldn't expect people choose garbage if their whole life depended on it. You seem to be very far from reality and still parting. Just quoting below some American SpecOps guy

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99.99% of soldiers do not have a choice in what they carry, the ones that do choose the AK 99.99% of the time

And yes, I'm more than familiar with AK-74, lol

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 04:27:23 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 04:03:23 PM

Just like the Kalashnikov is a very good gun , works in snow mud water , too bad that when it comes to actually hitting something you have to empty 3 rounds to hit the damn elephant.

I don't ignore anyone, but this would be enough to put you there, since this would overwhelm the amount of garbage you produce here. I think that the choice of millions of rebels, insurgents, and whatnot who can part with their life any day speaks louder than your words...

Even US special forces used captured AK-47's in Vietnam, lol

Common don't be a moron , the ak is one inaccurate piece of garbage.
It works wonders in close combat and in ambushes but when the targets gets beyond 200 you have to switch weapons or dig your way to hell.

It's one simple weapon and you can even pee on it and it will work (did that with one of my fellows's ak) ,but there are tons more which I would prefer if my country would send me to the battlefield.

Have you ever fired with one?

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Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 04:03:23 PM

Just like the Kalashnikov is a very good gun , works in snow mud water , too bad that when it comes to actually hitting something you have to empty 3 rounds to hit the damn elephant.

I don't ignore anyone, but this would be enough to put you there, since this would overwhelm the amount of garbage you produce here. I think that the choice of millions of rebels, insurgents, and whatnot who can part with their life any day speaks louder than your words...

Even US special forces used captured AK-47's in Vietnam, lol

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 03:49:36 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 02:22:56 PM

Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 01:50:22 PM

I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

Unless it comes back with some martian super weapon , Japan will still kick china's ass in a war

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Unfortunately for me I've lived too much in a communist country to know what propaganda is , I still can't HODL my laugh when people I meet and talk with tell me how advanced and powerful the Russian army was

, too bad it lacked weapons , fuel, fighters that managed to land twice without crashing and people that won't run away with the enemy. =)).

Some bryant.coleman says here that Russia is having the largest number of nuclear weapons in the world which make the best intercontinental ballistic missiles out there as well as the best air-defense systems in the world...

Do you really think I would rather believe you after you faked the Chinese landing on the Moon?

Depends which of us actually drove a Russian tank while in the army

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Which was supposed to be on of the best tanks in the world.. to bad nobody managed to get over 75% hit that piece of garbage when the auto loader didn't fail at least =))).

Just like the Kalashnikov is a very good gun , works in snow mud water , too bad that when it comes to actually hitting something you have to empty 3 rounds to hit the damn elephant.

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Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 02:22:56 PM

Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 01:50:22 PM

I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

Unless it comes back with some martian super weapon , Japan will still kick china's ass in a war

.

Unfortunately for me I've lived too much in a communist country to know what propaganda is , I still can't HODL my laugh when people I meet and talk with tell me how advanced and powerful the Russian army was

, too bad it lacked weapons , fuel, fighters that managed to land twice without crashing and people that won't run away with the enemy. =)).

Some bryant.coleman says here that Russia is having the largest number of nuclear weapons in the world which make the best intercontinental ballistic missiles out there as well as the best air-defense systems in the world...

Do you really think I would rather believe you after you faked the Chinese landing on the Moon?

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 01:50:22 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 01:28:26 PM

Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 12:41:47 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 12:28:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiten

I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

To the moon, that was your post.
Although I appreciate people who try to argue about how what they say are true , I hate people who twist their words to come to the same conclusion.

I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

Unless it comes back with some martian super weapon , Japan will still kick china's ass in a war

.

Unfortunately for me I've lived too much in a communist country to know what propaganda is , I still can't HODL my laugh when people I meet and talk with tell me how advanced and powerful the Russian army was

, too bad it lacked weapons , fuel, fighters that managed to land twice without crashing and people that won't run away with the enemy. =)).

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 02:05:40 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 01:28:26 PM

China is a fake one big fake and since we're here on bitcointalk , all that came from China were fake , fake and again fake numbers.
And , god help us when this Chinese bubble will burst (not bitcoin related).

If this Chinese bubble is fake, what then are you afraid of really?

I'm afraid of the people reacting like something serious is happening. Just like in the btc story.
I warned people since November that Chinese numbers are fakes , and even that it is proven now they were fakes . we had a crash , based mostly on speculation.

This will also happen when the Chinese dragon will reveal itself as being made of paper , cheap one 2. Lot's of people will make very wrong decisions influenced by the news and they will trigger an avalanche.

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Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 01:28:26 PM

China is a fake one big fake and since we're here on bitcointalk , all that came from China were fake , fake and again fake numbers.
And , god help us when this Chinese bubble will burst (not bitcoin related).

If this Chinese bubble is fake, what then are you afraid of really?

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Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 01:28:26 PM

Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 12:41:47 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 12:28:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiten

I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

To the moon, that was your post.
Although I appreciate people who try to argue about how what they say are true , I hate people who twist their words to come to the same conclusion.

I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

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Quote from: deisik on January 02, 2014, 12:41:47 PM

Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 12:28:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiten

I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

To the moon, that was your post.
Although I appreciate people who try to argue about how what they say are true , I hate people who twist their words to come to the same conclusion.

You can argue about the Chinese high tech but still:
They haven't been able to build a single nuclear factory by their own , they haven't been able to build an air carrier by their own , they haven't been able to build a commercial plane by their own. Their own bullet train was a total "success".
More bridges have collapsed since 2000 in China than in Europe since 1900.
Now really...

And you know the most humiliating stuff is ? That the best roads in China are actually built by Japanese and Korean companies.

China is a fake one big fake and since we're here on bitcointalk , all that came from China were fake , fake and again fake numbers.
And , god help us when this Chinese bubble will burst (not bitcoin related).

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Quote from: niothor on January 02, 2014, 12:28:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiten

I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

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