Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? - page 40.

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Quote from: Slow death on April 20, 2023, 03:49:34 PM

regardless of whether you or other people put money in, the game will still be a gamble, you can go to a casino and watch your friends play, and when they ask you where you were with your friends? you will answer that you were with your friends at the casino, but you at the casino did not play anything, but just for the simple fact that you are at the casino you have to say that you were at the casino.

I disagree, as long as you don't stake anything it is not gambling. You are not gambling with your friend when you watch him gambling, you are accompanying your friend while he is gambling. There is a huge difference when you are putting stake on something with your friends and watching your friend gamble.

Quote from: Slow death on April 20, 2023, 03:49:34 PM

anything you do that involves physical or mental competition that has specific rules are considered games, even without money you can play, have you never played cards with friends? Have you ever played any computer games? any game in which to win depends on luck or is considered a gamble, when you bet on a soccer game even if you don't put money, you just bet with your friend that the team will win, then you are betting on the gamble

So in sports, are you saying that athletes are gambling when they are playing their games? I never heard any commentator say that team A is gambling against team B rather I always heard that Team A is playing against Team B. And on the card game, when you are playing without any stake, it is considered playing and not gambling, that is the reason why you already stated "played cards with friends" not gambling with cards with your friend. Cheesy

Quote from: Slow death on April 20, 2023, 03:49:34 PM

now if people played gamble without money then casinos would not exist, we would not see many addicts in gambling and many things would not exist, and gamble despite having a negative part also have a positive part, many casinos sponsor leagues and teams and contribute to the growth of tourism in a country and also pay taxes to governments so casinos are welcome but people need to moderate in games

People who do not put any stake while playing a game in a casino is labeled.. just playing and not gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

could be called a giveaway or something similar to that? I mean it's basically the same thing as some of the gambling sites/sportsbooks do on games and rounds where you have a chance of winning money or free bets just by predicting something without spending any money.

^I think this is the correct answer.
Something like a giveaway that you can play for free and win real money but only for those who will have high points on predicting the sports.
So to your question, if that is gambling, I think it is YES, why?
This would still be considered a form of gambling because there is an element of chance involved in predicting the scores of the matches. Although no money is being exchanged to enter the contest, the potential prize of N50 million is a huge amount of money, which makes it similar to other forms of gambling where people risk money in the hopes of winning a larger amount. That is only my opinion.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Yes, a game can be considered gambling if it involves a bet where it could be a property, a material thing, or any condition. Anything that involves a bet where there is a competition happening could be a gambling. It can be situational or conditional gambling. As far as we can remember, we're used to creating conditional gambling games when we were a kid. One example is, the last to eat will wash the dishes, or something like that.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

if you don't have anything at stake then you can't call it gambling, for example free money from a faucet, it can't be called gambling but when you get money for free you will definitely use that money to gamble and it's like bait

Apart from that, when I opened the site, I saw that we were directed to Betking, it seems that these two sites are interconnected and are one of the gambling sites originating from the African continent

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I've seen a site like this before and it's much better than this one but unfortunately I forgot the name, but I've registered and bet without using capital or money but I can get money, well the wins are like points that can be exchanged for money, but not much the money that is found there, after all this system works basically to train its users to gamble so when they feel they are mature of course they will confidently go to sports betting sites and deposit money to bet.

I just saw it from the outside but I will think of this site as a training ground to practice our skills in predicting football sports betting, guessing scores and others but it seems interesting registering on this site to know more about how the system works, maybe I'll try it later looking for experience There's nothing wrong with trying it right, as long as it's free and doesn't require money to get started Wink

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

You can compare it to games and rounds in this forum, do you consider most of the games there gambling? Whatever you're answer is that's the answer to your question.

In addition since you're not putting your money and also you're not going to lose your money even if your prediction does not go according to plan then you can't consider it as gambling it's more like a giveaway where only those with the correct predictions gets to win the price nothing else.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 20, 2023, 02:39:33 PM

If you are not wagering any money or reputation, then you are not gambling IMO.

Hmm... I would not be so sure about that. What about gambling using things other than money? Lets say for example: time.

If you are forced to invest a specific amount of time into something, then obviously you are using that time as a bet input. So instead of investing that time into your job to earn money, you are investing it into your bet.

I think that might be an unexplored, interesting concept, don't you? Lets say for example such a time gambling casino exists. And the money you can win by gambling your time comes from ad revenue. The advertisers are interested in advertising on that casino website because the casino forces the gamblers to spend a specific amount of their time there. This means they are also forced to take in the ads during their time in that casino.

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regardless of whether you or other people put money in, the game will still be a gamble, you can go to a casino and watch your friends play, and when they ask you where you were with your friends? you will answer that you were with your friends at the casino, but you at the casino did not play anything, but just for the simple fact that you are at the casino you have to say that you were at the casino.

anything you do that involves physical or mental competition that has specific rules are considered games, even without money you can play, have you never played cards with friends? Have you ever played any computer games? any game in which to win depends on luck or is considered a gamble, when you bet on a soccer game even if you don't put money, you just bet with your friend that the team will win, then you are betting on the gamble

now if people played gamble without money then casinos would not exist, we would not see many addicts in gambling and many things would not exist, and gamble despite having a negative part also have a positive part, many casinos sponsor leagues and teams and contribute to the growth of tourism in a country and also pay taxes to governments so casinos are welcome but people need to moderate in games

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I think yes as you are predicting the future and predicting the future it is called gambling because no one can predict the future correctly always,sometimes we see and choose the favorite team to win in a sport event but most of the time everybody is on a losing run.

This can also increase your desire to start real gambling with real money once you get used to it so even if it is not called gambling in the beginning,it has super high chances leading you to gambling so I would put this in the gambling category.

This is kinda funny because how would you say that "you predicting the future and predicting the future is called gambling", what if I predict that there is going to be rain tonight and the rain eventually falls which means I have predicted the future but does actually mean that I have gamble ? Answer=NO, because gambling has to be involved with taking of risk and predicting an unknown outcome with a possible result of you losing something that is involved which is the risk so even you predicting games with no risk involved is actually not gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

could be called a giveaway or something similar to that? I mean it's basically the same thing as some of the gambling sites/sportsbooks do on games and rounds where you have a chance of winning money or free bets just by predicting something without spending any money.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Their slogan is Play for free. Win for real!
This cannot be considered gambling as there is nothing at stake. I’m very skeptical of freebies, I believe there is a gambit somewhere in all of this. The website is relatively new and hasn’t got much of a reputation compared to other gambling sites in Nigeria, I suspect this is their own way of promoting their casino and trying to get people to create an account.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Yes, it is all gambling since you have to make predictions whatever means you are using to place the bets does not matter, some gambling sites still give free bets and game seasons if you win you are free to withdraw your money.

Just lack lottery also, some lottery tickets are free and so many players have benefitted from them all, I know someone who won an American lottery that gave his family a permanent stay in the United States, so this person can still be referred to as a gambler.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

To answer the question we need to identify the factors that make an action a gambling. Gambling (also known as betting or gaming) is the wagering of something of value ("the stakes") on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted.[1]
Wikipedia stated that gambling needs 3 elements to be present which are

consideration (amount wagered)
risk
and prize.

In the given situation of @OP where there is no consideration (amount wagered) and risk involved only prize, the action won't be considered a gambling.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?
if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com
My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

OP from what I understood from you post here is this; you predicted a game and it happens that the game was a success and you were paid for it, I assume that to be a work and pay exercise where your expertise was brought into function and that I really think I not gambling as you were paid for your expertise which you Serviced them with compared to when you use your own money to gamble, you bet in the sense that you either win or you loose your bet that is what I can tell you is gambling.

So therefore, gambling involves you placing a bet with something tangible in course of gaming and without anything in your name for gaming to win o see that as expertise brought in play so that is not gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

For me, I wouldn't even call it or think of it as gambling because it is only when money is staked and the chance of losing it or winning more money is involved, that it can or should be called gambling.
It is just a prediction game after all, the wrong answers are sure to not lose anything except to not win. I believe one can also try as much times as they want to unless if there's a limited try.
Anyone who goes into gambling after trying out this prediction game, simply wanted to gamble all the while.

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I guess that gambling has many definitions, and one of them is this one:

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Take risky action in the hope of a desired result.

Crossing a street can be described as a risky action, and the result would be getting to another side, some didn't make it... sad truth. We gamble from a young age, and we are not even aware that we are thrown into this game off chances and odds. If we risk something (anything) in the hope of a desired result we are gambling... doesn't matter do we risk our bodies or souls, we risk something to gain something more, and that is gambling. As I wrote many times...

If you are not risking anything, then you are not gambling! Simple as that... you can't gain/lose anything, you are just killing the time with something you like, and that is far away from gambling, and those feelings that gambling (risking something to get something else or more) can produce!

Good luck all gamblers!

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Gambling involves money, so without this I don’t think its gambling.
Just make sure not to bet any with money or else you’re doing gambling and you have to be more responsible on that and avoid being greedy. There are site who have this options, and this is also their way to attract gamblers, this is actually where I started, from the free wager until I deposited my first capital.

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Quote from: Johnyz on April 20, 2023, 02:42:21 PM

It may be free at first but for sure you will be tempted to bet more as this site allows you to earn at first, and that is still gambling.
This is a gambling site anyway so whatever their strategy to attract gamblers, once you visit the site and created an account with them, you are expected to gamble with them and you cannot deny the fact that you are playing with the site, if you are being careless worse case might happen to your money.

If it is a gambling site, that does not mean that free predictions are gambling. If you do not use money or anything to gamble, it is not gambling. That is just it. Although I understand what you are saying, that it is a gambling site, that some people will later gamble on the site. Yes you are right, but the free offer is not gambling, people gamble with something like money or property.

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Quote from: Stedsm on April 20, 2023, 02:21:48 PM

It's showing "Access denied".
Is it a country-specific website? If yes, do you know which ones are restricted?
However, yes I'd call it gambling because you're predicting something and not getting the money directly, I mean for doing nothing. Even though you're not putting your own money on it, you're getting a reward for staking your 0 money bet through your prediction and you win if what you predicted comes out to be true.
I'd compare it with the free spins that we get on websites, or the no-deposit bonuses with which we can play some specific games and even keep as well as cashout our winnings (some websites need just 1x wagering to withdraw). So it's just the same, you're gambling but without including your money there.

It's a Nigerian site. Here's what you can see when you get access:
"Correctly predict the score of 6 soccer matches to win up to N100 million!"

So, you can win $200 in Nigerian currency if you pick 6 scores in a row, which is pretty hard. Anyway, if they're for real, people might want to play. They aren't losing anything by doing it.

I feel like playing for free isn't gambling. The way I understand gambling is you're risking something to potentially win more. With no risk there's no gambling.
If you play mortal kombat with your friends and the person who beats all the others gets free beers paid by the losers, it's not really gambling. It's more like a good idea for a party Cheesy

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

It may be free at first but for sure you will be tempted to bet more as this site allows you to earn at first, and that is still gambling.
This is a gambling site anyway so whatever their strategy to attract gamblers, once you visit the site and created an account with them, you are expected to gamble with them and you cannot deny the fact that you are playing with the site, if you are being careless worse case might happen to your money.

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