Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? - page 38.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

In my opinion, this is the same as gambling because there is a part where we make predictions, it's just that we won't lose anything if our guess turns out to be wrong, but it will actually be profitable if it's right.
This is like an event that has been held at several bookmakers that I have ever known, and participating in it is quite fun especially if we can get a prize, because everything that is free entry and can get real money is what many people like because there is no risk in participating, also the emotions involved are not the same as when we use real money in gambling, and both give pleasure if we can win the prize.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

If you value your time and effort with equivalent money then it can be considered gambling because despite you're not using money directly on your picks, You are wasting time on choosing picks instead of using it on jobs or side hustles that will give you extra cash. There's no guarantee that your pick will so technically you are still gambling your time on this betting prediction unless you literally doesn't have job at all.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Gambling might not be necessarily played with money alone. Somebody can use anything of value to gamble. I have seen people gamble with their belongings such as clothing or even food items. For me, it is gambling when you are risking something of value. So when nothing is at stake, it is not gambling. The issue you raised OP could be called a giveaway because it is only one party that is giving or losing something of value. In my country, we call it "try your luck". Even religious institution that frowns at gambling organizes these giveaways to assist members that are not well-to-do. It is also advisable to look into the laws concerning gambling in your country to get the definition of gambling. This is because different nations define or see gambling from different perspectives.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 21, 2023, 07:21:17 AM

Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I'm sure every user here has a different opinion on your question.
If in my opinion even though you make and give predictions to win prizes without the money you give to bet or you can call it free then it is still included in the scope of gambling.
You yourself make predictions and risk them in a free betting contest with the expectation of winning when the predictions you make are correct, whereas gambling is an activity that risks something for the purpose of getting some profit.
So in conclusion, even though the predictions that you give without spending a penny, because there are prizes that can be obtained, it is a gambling bet.

This view is quite analytical and I think what op has asked is part of gambling even though the site is to lure more people who don't want to directly bet with money or something of value in betting. When you visit the site and make such prediction that requires accuracy of 6 games you are invariably expecting a reward for such emotional exercise, that to me makes it gambling. Take for instance in more critical analysis, you go to work for your employer and at the month end or weekend you expect to be paid for your labour, such expectation comes because you have worked for it. So in the case of the op discussion, when you make prediction then you are gambling the outcome of something that you are not sure of unlike when you have laboured for your employer and sure to receive salary or wages at the end.

I checked what is gambling

I found out that the focus is the end result which is the reward. When you have invested your time and emotion in expectation of a reward IMO it can be regarded as gambling. Moreover, non gamblers won't visit such site as they will also see it as gambling

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Prediction is one of the main tools of gambling. and many sites have prediction quiz on their site where you can win some money by making correct prediction without betting any amount. It can also be called a part of gambling. but since there is no possibility of financial loss and no huge amount of income can be earned from here and there is no risk, it does not fulfill gambling requirement on the other hand. therefore, earning money from any place without stake money cannot be termed as complete gambling

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Quote from: tusandii on April 21, 2023, 07:21:17 AM

Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I'm sure every user here has a different opinion on your question.
If in my opinion even though you make and give predictions to win prizes without the money you give to bet or you can call it free then it is still included in the scope of gambling.
You yourself make predictions and risk them in a free betting contest with the expectation of winning when the predictions you make are correct, whereas gambling is an activity that risks something for the purpose of getting some profit.
So in conclusion, even though the predictions that you give without spending a penny, because there are prizes that can be obtained, it is a gambling bet.

Well, I respect that opinion as well. But talking about gambling and that kind of activity can be considered as gambling when the is money involved when there is betting happening. While in the situation with DSTV is not gambling but just a sort of making fun of the people who is also a fan of predicting the future. Might not see yet any betting involve but was not sure how it runs in a few days because if there is a casino involved here where to claim your prizes, not that far that this will become gambling as betting will possibly start.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I'm sure every user here has a different opinion on your question.
If in my opinion even though you make and give predictions to win prizes without the money you give to bet or you can call it free then it is still included in the scope of gambling.
You yourself make predictions and risk them in a free betting contest with the expectation of winning when the predictions you make are correct, whereas gambling is an activity that risks something for the purpose of getting some profit.
So in conclusion, even though the predictions that you give without spending a penny, because there are prizes that can be obtained, it is a gambling bet.

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This whole predicting a possible outcome on games to win some kind of rewards, either money or some gadgets is a marketing strategy used by many casino to actually lure their customers to predict the games for free and maybe eventually putting their money in their next time prediction and its very effective in Africa because most people just get interested by these kinds of free offers but if am to classify this act I wouldn't called it gambling but a promo on gambling.

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Quote from: jeraldskie11 on April 21, 2023, 06:32:41 AM

In my perspective, even if you do not release money while playing, anything associated to the casino is always gambling. It's also a means for others to force you to use their software or play games in order to entice you. The term gambling does not stop there; even if you are not actually gambling, as long as there is no security and the risk is significant, it is still referred to as gambling. It's the same with trading; if you have no knowledge of trading and then enter, you're clearly gambling because you're relying solely on luck.

you have a point there , and yeah we may not risking money but our mind is set to expect at least to win so for me this is already a form of gambling?
but in literal way this is not because there are nothing in risk but time.
but it is sad that this offer is only for african people in which I believe that mostly a good kind of advertising to increase their possible supporters .

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In my perspective, even if you do not release money while playing, anything associated to the casino is always gambling. It's also a means for others to force you to use their software or play games in order to entice you. The term gambling does not stop there; even if you are not actually gambling, as long as there is no security and the risk is significant, it is still referred to as gambling. It's the same with trading; if you have no knowledge of trading and then enter, you're clearly gambling because you're relying solely on luck.

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you are gambling nothing but a chance to win? how can this be considered as gambling ? we are only using few second of our time to put our prediction so still this is not a gamble .
if we are not putting single amount of money or other important things or at least longer time , then we are not gambling in anyway.

Quote from: ufaiz50 on April 21, 2023, 04:48:56 AM

Of course not, gambling composed of something that you would risk in order to win something right?

that is right mate.
so this is not gambling in any way .

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

If there's no money involve into what you are doing on that site it cannot be called as gambling, It can be categorized as playing where you can earn a prize in return. So there's nothing to worry about that if you are worried for someone who's participating on such prediction game since they cannot be categorized as a gambler in my opinion. Gambling will be consider if there's money involve since you are risking some amount of money but in that situation nothing will be lost to you and its made just for entertainment.

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Making predictions and winning money without using your own money is nothing new online anymore, some crypto exchanges like Huobi and BitGet always do something like this, you might ne be asked to predict what Ethereum price will be tomorrow at a given time and they will give up some USDT, BTC or other altcoins for the winners.

Huobi is very popular for this, but most of their questions is always about price of a token, and predictions without asking a penny from their customers.

Since you are going to predict the price, which is about the future I would say it's nothing but a gamble.

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gambling or not , this is still considered as advantage to those who will participate , this is nothing different to those prediction events here in forum , that the site offers all of us to give prediction in what would be the price of bitcoin or things similar to this and this cannot be considered as gambling because there is nothing bet happened .

Quote from: ufaiz50 on April 21, 2023, 04:48:56 AM

Of course not, gambling composed of something that you would risk in order to win something right? but if there's no risk involve than it is just a free money or free chance to win something good and actually that thing could really attract a lot of players. The only problem they will encounter with this is that they would probably be target of the users who will create many accounts and tried to cheat on this kind of tournament.

But others says that it is about the time? that they are risking mate?

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

In this, we can say gambling is of two kinds, maybe the one you make use of money and the other you don't but all involves you getting paid for risking your opinion as stake on something, if you look into lotto as well, it is regarded as not gambling because of the nature, anything you stake money for in a bid to predict something and have a better chances of making back your money with extra profit is gambling, also you gamble mostly on sports activities and this may involves use of casinos live or online.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

for me everything related to predictions can be called gambling (for me).
because even if you use free money and you can guess correctly, of course you will make deposits on several gambling sites and make bets or bets.
the prediction site that you listed in this thread can trigger someone who doesn't like gambling to like gambling. after all, even though these predictions are free to get real prizes, it's the same as gambling when you predict for free and earn money if your predictions are correct.

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Quote from: Stedsm on April 20, 2023, 02:21:48 PM

It's showing "Access denied".
Is it a country-specific website? If yes, do you know which ones are restricted?

What I know is that DSTV is located in South Africa and it provides services to countries in Africa.

I have no problem accessing this website even though I'm from the EU - so it's not true that the service is limited to Africa only, although maybe some countries are blocked. What you should pay attention to in case you play and win a prize is that there is a mandatory KYC when paying out the winnings.

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We will notify you if you have won a prize through your Account and we may request certain documents from you at this stage in order to verify your identity and your eligibility to enter the Contest and win the prize. You must provide these documents within the timeframe specified in your prize notification in order to be eligible to receive your prize. You represent and warrant that any documents that provide to us in the course of the verification process will be true copies of the original documents to which they relate.

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Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

In a way, yes - because gamblers don't gamble only for money, but also for excitement. Therefore, although there is no financial component, we could say that people are still gambling with their time, which in this particular case is quite negligible if we take into account how much time it takes to choose the outcome of several matches.

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Of course not, gambling composed of something that you would risk in order to win something right? but if there's no risk involve than it is just a free money or free chance to win something good and actually that thing could really attract a lot of players. The only problem they will encounter with this is that they would probably be target of the users who will create many accounts and tried to cheat on this kind of tournament.

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Quote from: QueenVera on April 21, 2023, 03:19:41 AM

As much as there is nothing to lose then I don't see it as a gambling basically because the concept of gambling is staking and when there is staking involved, then there is risk and from the link you presented, it shows the pick is absolutely free and there is nothing to lose from the angle of the player and the fun and enticement of gambling isn't felt.
I think the games over there are just fantasy sports and merely just for entertainment and that isn't gambling.
Looking from the other hand, there are games that looks competitive but has no monetary attachments and just because a game seems competitive with maybe a prize to win doesn't make it gambling.

In as much as gambling involves staking, it also involves the risk of uncertainty as an end outcome of an activity one gets him or herself involved as a result of their commitment through finance or otherwise. For gambling to take place there must be a financial commitment or a collateral of good value in place of the estimated value of the money to pay. With this, then you can say or call it gambling and one thing is that you can not determine the end result as it is probably fair enough for transparency and credibility.

Like I said in my previous post, you predicting the end game result does not mean you are gambling. I believe you are just bringing your knowledge and expertise in play for the benefit of others to get a good profits from your prediction or knowledge.

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Never heard of it but that is actually nice that you don't need money to play, I think we can consider it as a competition. Usually in competition you don't need to spend anything right, but in reality you can consider it as gambling as you will take chances though there is no risk the risk I see is wasting your time or spending it on the prediction. But it's really nice that they have that kind of promotion.

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