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legendary
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October 28, 2023, 11:26:53 AM
#72
Those not taking action contribute as much as those trusting him to preserve Ratimov in DT and allow him make more and more such abuses.
That's simply not true and I don't think that this guilt tripping technique is the right approach and might even create the opposite effect of the one you want.

One more thing, this "Ratimov" thing that you keep doing is neither funny or smart but instead childish as that's what kids do (make fun of name of the person they dislike or when in argument) and should be beneath you, despite his insults towards you.

With that being said, I do agree with many things that you presented in this thread (not with everything though) therefore I added him to my distrust list.
legendary
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October 28, 2023, 11:02:22 AM
#71
Thank you for bumping this thread, BitcoinGirl.Club!

While I am also eager to see if any of the above mentioned ones will reply, I also want to add that Cryptopreneurbrainboss, at least, deleted Ratimov from his Trust list.
Besides, one more DT1 user -- holydarkness -- distrusted him. The changes are also visible on bpip.

At same time, let's not forget that, since he was just caught by LV deleting his evidence of plagiarism with the help of his personal garbage men (the Russian mods -- which were bribed with hundreds of merits by him), Ratimov did not have the guts anymore to say something in this thread or in LV's thread. He simply defied everybody and any limit of common sense by doing what he just did in plain sight, without caring anymore about DT users' opinions. And, guess what? Even so, DT users are not yet convinced to act! This is shocking!
legendary
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October 28, 2023, 10:51:13 AM
#70
This topic really needs to continue hence this bump.

I would like to hear opinion from the following members. mprep, wwzsocki, LFC_Bitcoin, klarki, The Sceptical Chymist, DarkStar_, Hhampuz, imhoneer, CryptopreneurBrainboss, Xal0lex, Best_Change, andy_pelevin , KTChampions, Coin-1, Bitcoin_Arena, tranthidung, tvplus006, dkbit98, witcher_sense, DdmrDdmr, madnessteat, 1miau, FontSeli, YOSHIE, jokers10, zasad@, bullrun2020bro, light_warrior.

These are the people who Ratimov trust in his trust list. I will yet to see which of these already had their opinion in this topic [will mark it later] but most of these members either are not aware of this topic or ignoring the topic because one of their vote may reduce if they give an opinion and if goes against Ratimov. I really hope that's not the case. If it is not, then I would like your opinion [Please read the first topic carefully and make a response. Let's hope Ratimov was not using you all too as he was using the local moderators to achieve his evil goal].
legendary
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October 26, 2023, 11:01:00 AM
#69
I have expressed my opinion about @Ratimov several times in the past and I have received nothing but ad hominem attacks and insults, which is why I put the same member on ignore a long time ago.
Guess what?
How many thousands of active members we have on the forum? 100K? More or less but it's obviously a large number. From all these users only one person who is Ratimov in my ignore list. No one else! Not even JollyGood [Not saying he is any better, I am sure some day someone will get everything together about JollyGood too and they will clearly show how harmful this user is too for the community. I just have no enthusiasm for any of it].

As far as I remember, Ratimov and some other members were is my ignore list from long ago and then in the new year, as the new year resolution, I cleared it all and wanted to have all to be good. After some day or week or I guess it could be month too, in one posts Retimov was criticizing it [it was like your removed me from ignore but your feedback is still on my feedback page] and he was expecting his neutral tag to be removed too. I am not sure if that was at that time or later, there was an escalate situation, things were not looking even good personally to me. I was feeling like I was the reason for this escalation so I thought to remove the feedback. [Oh] In the mean time he was also offering the solution of removing my feedback and he will remove his too. Anyway, feedback removed and I think at that time or later, I put him in my ignore list again. I feel ashamed that I failed to understand his evil technique at that time and I am sure many others too. We all had only one thing in mind which was to deescalate the situation. We were wrong.

One thing always crossed my mind is since when Ratimov started to dare old reputed members of the community and was using his slags. I do use slags [I don't think the people who had conversation with me have missed my F** words.] but I don't do it to hurt a person [except for a selective group of people who are threat to the forum].
legendary
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October 26, 2023, 08:00:33 AM
#68
I have expressed my opinion about @Ratimov several times in the past and I have received nothing but ad hominem attacks and insults, which is why I put the same member on ignore a long time ago. As if it was yesterday, I remember that one day I saw the already famous topic about the first newbie who became Legendary and I was surprised that I had never seen it on the forum before, only to realize that it was actually a product of a Russian local board.

I can say that he was a completely different person then (in a positive sense), and that he completely changed after many accused him of plagiarism, which of course he never wanted to accept as a fact and be grateful to all those who overlooked it (intentionally or by chance) and also rewarded him with a bunch of merits and make him merit source.

What I would conclude is that @Ratimov is actually a product of the Russian board, a good part of the members who generously rewarded his "In this topic post I would like to touch upon" and, of course, the forum's administration, which, despite everything, promoted him to merit source.

The fact that the majority has been silent for years and considered that there is nothing controversial anymore speaks volumes about how we either don't care or maybe we are afraid that every reaction will be retaliated against.

Although I welcome the fact that some things are finally cleared up, I will also say that I would prefer that it had been resolved a long time ago and that this whole case had not come to the surface as a result of personal differences between two members.
legendary
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October 26, 2023, 05:11:24 AM
#67
In this topic post I would like to touch upon the people who trust Ratimov 😂

You just wrote what I had on the tip of my tongue! Smiley



Ok, let's try this again:

In this article I would like to touch upon [...]" DT users which still trust Ratimov: YOSHIE, zasad@, bullrun2020bro, Stalker22, jokers10, madnesssteal, Bitcoin_Arena, Best_Change, imhoneer, tvplus006 and klarki.

At same time, I also want to touch upon remaining DT users.

Ratimov just made one more Trust abuse, by accusing BitcoinGirl.Club of plagiarism, in another feedback full of insults and presenting no proof!

Question to DT and non-DT users: is this the way Trust system should be used? Are these the kind of feedbacks which should be left by a DT user?

How long are you still going to protect this imposter, by not excluding him from your Trust lists?

Those not taking action contribute as much as those trusting him to preserve Ratimov in DT and allow him make more and more such abuses.

In all this time, Ratimov is proactive and, besides abusing Trust system, he also works hard in deleting plagiarism evidence, together with Russian mod, which states he has no authority to ban him and became his personal garbage man instead.

How long DT users will still tolerate this?
hero member
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October 25, 2023, 11:26:27 PM
#66
56. Despairo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (736 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Would you all be more responsible? Please read the OP. You are directly supporting an evil knowingly or unknowingly. You now have a chance to understand the whole situation better, don't keep yourself blind anymore.
Since I'm being mentioned here and after I read the topics that related to Ratimov, I have to remove Ratimov in my trust list, but not necessary to exclude him.

I was trust Ratimov because I see how he contributed in this forum and almost all of his feedback are appropriate. But since his recent activity deleting other people posts without any explanation and he leave few inappropriate feedback, that's why I remove him.

I hope I would see something good in the future, I believe Ratimov will learn from this.
legendary
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October 25, 2023, 04:00:43 PM
#65
@BitcoinGirl.Club: it seems that he accused you again of plagiarism, again with no evidence, LOL! Just the usual. At least he did not use a negative tag this time. His feedbacks actually become more and more hilarious as time passes.
It proves the point again that you were making in your first post of this topic.


In this topic post I would like to touch upon the people who trust Ratimov 😂

Ratimov's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (358 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. silversurfer1958 (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. peloso (Trust: +1 / =3 / -5) (187 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. wwzsocki (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (1402 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Gianluca95 (Trust: +7 / =2 / -1) (196 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. rby (Trust: +0 / =4 / -1) (360 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. SiNeReiNZzz (Trust: !!!:  +4 / =2 / -11) (793 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. owlcatz (Trust: +45 / =0 / -0) (904 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. thandie (Trust: neutral) (360 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. tmfp (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (737 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. klarki (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (1) 2073 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. s0nix (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. WhiteManWhite (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. nimogsm (Trust: neutral) (148 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. SPQRCoin (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. my luck (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (645 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. FutureBitcoin (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (126 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. Wapfika (Trust: neutral) (271 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. dimonstration (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (146 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. whyrqa (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. giammangiato (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1135 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. BtcMan2009 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (90 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. CarnagexD (Trust: neutral) (110 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. imhoneer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1226 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. JollyGood (Trust: +15 / =3 / -2) (1355 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3713 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. Chrystora123 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (128 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. Best_Change (Trust: +27 / =8 / -1) (DT1! (2) 1770 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1626 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. Smartprofit (Trust: neutral) (1347 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. Coin-1 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1959 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. Julien_Olynpic (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (2264 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. Removed sheenshane (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1095 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. Bitcoin_Arena (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1645 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. tvplus006 (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 1622 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. witcher_sense (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (4075 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. sky999 (Trust: neutral) (673 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. Ridcan (Trust: neutral) (31 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. nakamura12 (Trust: neutral) (646 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. bubbalex (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (339 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. XEOP$ (Trust: neutral) (171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. taikuri13 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1585 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. madnessteat (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1739 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. Snork1979 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (1331 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. DabLjat (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. FontSeli (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (858 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. YOSHIE (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1735 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. jokers10 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2315 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. elmanchez (Trust: !!!:  +2 / =4 / -16) (143 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (6) 4042 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. KOPHEP Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. WEX-SCAM (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. Stalker22 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1238 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. bullrun2020bro (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 4048 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. ajanwalker (Trust: neutral) (362 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. Charles-Tim (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (4310 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. Despairo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (736 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. execijutiere (Trust: neutral) (1093 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. Zilon (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (421 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. _BlackStar (Trust: neutral) (1192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. Shamm (Trust: neutral) (332 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. KingsDen (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (931 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. Nathrixxx Banned! (Trust: neutral) (128 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. Synchronice (Trust: neutral) (582 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
64. SatoPrincess (Trust: neutral) (605 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
65. Silence Scream (Trust: neutral) (789 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
66. SmartGold01 (Trust: neutral) (546 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
67. Jossque (Trust: neutral) (1152 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
68. light_warrior (Trust: neutral) (830 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Would you all be more responsible? Please read the OP. You are directly supporting an evil knowingly or unknowingly. You now have a chance to understand the whole situation better, don't keep yourself blind anymore.
legendary
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October 25, 2023, 02:40:34 PM
#64
What’s even more surprising is that several authoritative users have stuck their tongues up their ass. Some either say that they will watch the situation, while others don’t even write anything here so as not to take sides. The funny thing is that this kind of neutral status is a sure sign of cowardice.

In part, I understand them. And I explained that in OP:

it seems that he obtained so much power that he intimidates everybody to dare to say anything contrary to his opinions. When such things happen, the respective users get distrusted by him or receive baseless negative feedbacks, in some cases also with no reference links and usually consisting only in insults, which is against the correct use of Trust system. I spoke to many users about Ratimov's behavior and, although they agreed that his behavior is not normal, nor according to a fair DT user, they felt intimidated by him to stand against him.

For example, take these 3 feedbacks left by him, full of insults, with no reference link, 2 being negative and 1 neutral:



Now you may understand why he intimidates so many people. [...]

So all these helped him obtain his actual position, the position from which he manages to intimidate almost everybody. Most people look at users with tons of merits with respect, although in Ratimov's case they have no idea that they actually respect various authors which wrote the texts from Ratimov's texts. Those addicted to his sMerits always talk nice about him, in order to receive merits. Those which disagree with him don't dare to speak, in most of times, as they know that if they do it he can add them to his distrust list, leave them negative feedbacks or they risk to lose the precious merits they may earn from him.

However, in part, I hope though that those which acted correctly, without letting themselves intimidated by him, will also influence those still hesitating because of being intimidated by Ratimov's abuses of Trust. Maybe one after one more and more will not let themselves be intimidated anymore, will open their eyes towards all his abuses of DT power and will distrust him, just like it happened in TimeLord's case. TimeLord has been eliminated from DT and now he can leave tons of negative feedback -- nobody cares anymore.



The funny thing is that this kind of neutral status is a sure sign of cowardice.
These things usually happen. The coward who writes from an alt account speaks of cowardice.

airfinex, be it an alt or not, was the first user which ever dared to expose Ratimov for plagiarism. What happened immediately after?

One of his first such miserable attack was against airfinex, the user which exposed him for plagiarism. On September 8th, 2021, Ratimov created a topic, hunting airfinex and attacking him as being someone's alt or a bounty cheater. DireWolf and The pharmacist were very vocal against him and scared him enough thus he deleted all his posts inside that thread and hid the thread in Archival board, hoping that nobody can see it anymore and people will forget about it.

So stuff like that happen when you confront this imposter.

Is airfinex to be blamed for using an alt account? I guess not. LoyceV believes the same:



^Last 2 images are words of wisdom from LoyceV. First of all he also notices the way Ratimov leaves retaliatory feedbacks. Ratimov wrote on airfinex's Trust page the following: "Stupid troll &shitposter. An errand dog [...]".. Again, a feedback consisting in insults, with no reference link.. But after LoyceV's post he deleted it. Why? Because he is also intimidated by a very few users, such as The Pharmacist or LoyceV.
Then LoyceV highlights another negative feedback left by Ratimov for revenge, this one being on wool_loow's profile. In fact, he left also a neutral feedback. What happened? Ratimov deleted these feedbacks as well.

You want to know what happens when you confront him from your main / single account? Look at my Trust page.

Or look at BitcoinGirl.Club's Trust page.



@BitcoinGirl.Club: it seems that he accused you again of plagiarism, again with no evidence, LOL! Just the usual. At least he did not use a negative tag this time. His feedbacks actually become more and more hilarious as time passes.
member
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October 25, 2023, 02:23:01 PM
#63
The funny thing is that this kind of neutral status is a sure sign of cowardice.

These things usually happen. The coward who writes from an alt account speaks of cowardice.
full member
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October 25, 2023, 01:36:47 PM
#62
It's quite surprising to see those who usually avoid drama. What’s even more surprising is that several authoritative users have stuck their tongues up their ass. Some either say that they will watch the situation, while others don’t even write anything here so as not to take sides. The funny thing is that this kind of neutral status is a sure sign of cowardice.

legendary
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October 25, 2023, 12:05:49 PM
#61
I didn't actually want to be involved in this, but it's been a while since I've been unnecessarily involved in one of these Default Trust dramas and this one looks like it has good potential.

legendary
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October 25, 2023, 11:56:14 AM
#60
I also thank to Foxpup for involving in this and I encourage all other users to do the same.
I didn't actually want to be involved in this, but it's been a while since I've been unnecessarily involved in one of these Default Trust dramas and this one looks like it has good potential.
legendary
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October 25, 2023, 08:27:22 AM
#59
I think everyone who is responding on this topic should read the main thread first before writing anything else. My mistake was, I too was like you and ignored the wall of text but last night I was on my phone and had the time to read the whole topic. It took me a full half an hour but I am glad that my time was not wasted.

Thank you, BitcoinGirl.Club! I had confidence when I wrote this long topic that, once users will read everything they will all see the undeniable proof that (1) Ratimov is a plagiarist which fooled the entire forum for years, to merits him for stealing others' work (intellectual theft); (2) Ratimov is a Trust abuser, threatening anyone confronting him with negative tags, containing only insults, with no ref links, which he later deletes when DT eyes are on him; (3) Ratimov deletes all the evidence exposing him for being a plagiarist and Trust abuser (the tactic here being to move threads to Archival, deleting his own posts then begging mods to delete his topics incriminating him).

Later on he returned, offering me a deal: to delete the feedback I left him and he will delete the feedbacks he left me. Meaning his usual behavior.
The same deal was offered to me and unfortunately there were some other uses too who were supporting it. I now realize those some other users who supported it and me were not aware that it was just a tactic. We simply thought it was a way to deescalate the situation. Ratimov was successful in his evil spell.

It's true. And I already highlighted this in OP:

So for that feedback  Ratimov left him another retaliatory feedback, accusing BitcoinGirl.Club of being a trust abuser, writing false feedbacks, a two faced person with double standards and, aaaaand (the best part comes here!) a plagiarist! LOL! So as you see, once more, he accuses the one stating something about him for the same thing. The same ridiculous way of trying to distract the attention from him towards the one he is talking to, as I explained above. And, of course, presenting no evidence. [...]

Eventually, BitcoinGirl.Club deleted his feedback then Ratimov also deleted the feedback he left to BitcoinGirl.Club so once again he got away, without more evidence incriminating him of Trust abuse.

You have done a great job @GazetaBitcoin, I am sorry all those days I was ignoring it. Sometimes you feel alone and then you give up. I was having such time.

I thank you! I hope that your post will be incentive for others as well, to read all OP's material.
P.S.: you should also take a look at my list of questions to which Ratimov will never answer.

Ratimov should not be in entire DT. ~Ratimov has done.

My original feedback for him is going back again.

Great decision! And also thumbs up for adding him to your distrust list!



Further evidence: Ratimov also deleted one of the threads where he used his infamous introduction "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]"

The above link is a quote from a post made by nullius, which quoted a post made by Ratimov where he used that expression. Now Ratimov's post is moved to Russian board and the topic is empty: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5296174



Even further evidence for the methods used by the rat for covering his plagiarism: Ratimov is deleting self-moderated topics. He now goes onto my Ignore list..

Great job, LoyceV!





I also thank to Foxpup for involving in this and I encourage all other users to do the same.
legendary
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October 25, 2023, 07:46:24 AM
#58
So the fact that Ratimov was not banned for plagiarism does not mean he did not plagiarize. He did plagiarize and this brought him tons of merits until he was caught (about 3000 merits or so). And with 3000 merits you build a solid image about yourself inside the forum.
To be honest, I haven’t read such a large wall of text in a long time and I think that the essence could have been presented more briefly.
I think everyone who is responding on this topic should read the main thread first before writing anything else. My mistake was, I too was like you and ignored the wall of text but last night I was on my phone and had the time to read the whole topic. It took me a full half an hour but I am glad that my time was not wasted.

Later on he returned, offering me a deal: to delete the feedback I left him and he will delete the feedbacks he left me. Meaning his usual behavior.
The same deal was offered to me and unfortunately there were some other uses too who were supporting it. I now realize those some other users who supported it and me were not aware that it was just a tactic. We simply thought it was a way to deescalate the situation. Ratimov was successful in his evil spell.

You have done a great job @GazetaBitcoin, I am sorry all those days I was ignoring it. Sometimes you feel alone and then you give up. I was having such time.

Ratimov should not be in entire DT. ~Ratimov has done.

My original feedback for him is going back again.
legendary
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October 25, 2023, 07:14:29 AM
#57
He deleted his own topic, my assumption is he want to get rid from users who say he's a plagiarist or he use google translate to write that? not really sure, but something like that.

This is common practice of Ratimov. He always tries to bury any evidence incriminating him. He deleted all the posts from the topic where he was hunting airfinex, after airfinex exposed his plagiarism; he deleted all his posts from AOBT thread where he was insulting all translators for incompetence and me, in particular, swearing about my family; he deleted also all his posts from this topic, where he was derailing the thread, hoping to distract users' attention from OP's content; he usually deletes also all his negative feedbacks which are baseless and contain only insults, after DT eyes are on him and so on. And, probably, he deleted dozens of other posts which contained evidence incriminating his Trust abuses or his plagiarism, in his futile attempts to cover his misery.

I already explained all these here.

legendary
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October 25, 2023, 06:57:25 AM
#56
I've seen several suggestions, and my favourite is still to require more than one DT1-vote to reach DT2, but I doubt there's a perfect solution.
Any change is better than what we have right now, but I don't see any real initiative for a change.

LoyceV is right, what you claim is completely contradictory. If we're talking about improving the forum, it's completely wrong to say, do something, and if I think it's good, I'll be a part of it. If all those who have the capacity to improve something are excluded, who can be expected to do it?
My opinion is not important, but if we do a vote I bet most of the members (including DT) would say that DT system is currently broken, but hey if you like it like it is now, enjoy.
Can it be improved? - Yes.

I'm curious as to how you would change it. I think its set up reasonably well, but perhaps what's more important is its a vast improvement over the old system.
Reducing number of DT2 members is first thing that came to my mind, but someone give me a good proposal and I will support it.

This is the crux of all politics... getting people to believe that their vote matters. Somewhat ironically, the fewer people that vote, the more their vote matters.
I learned that voting is not really that important, it's more important who counts the votes, and I think one well known communist said something like that.  Tongue
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October 25, 2023, 06:48:21 AM
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I wouldn't participate in any voting or elections if I know that results won't significantly change anything.

This is the crux of all politics... getting people to believe that their vote matters. Somewhat ironically, the fewer people that vote, the more their vote matters.

First improve DT system, than ask people to join or leave.

I'm curious as to how you would change it. I think its set up reasonably well, but perhaps what's more important is its a vast improvement over the old system.

I've seen several suggestions, and my favourite is still to require more than one DT1-vote to reach DT2, but I doubt there's a perfect solution.

I like that.. maybe 2 or 3. Would make trust padding more difficult to achieve. According to your lists in Meta, there's well over 600 DT1 + DT2 members in any given month. Perhaps that's too many.
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October 25, 2023, 06:25:33 AM
#54
I wouldn't participate in any voting or elections if I know that results won't significantly change anything.
First improve DT system, than ask people to join or leave.

LoyceV is right, what you claim is completely contradictory. If we're talking about improving the forum, it's completely wrong to say, do something, and if I think it's good, I'll be a part of it. If all those who have the capacity to improve something are excluded, who can be expected to do it?
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October 25, 2023, 06:20:41 AM
#53
If system is bad it doesn't really matter how many people in the system are ''good'' or ''bad''.
This comes to mind: “Democ­ra­cy is the worst form of gov­ern­ment, except for all the oth­ers.”.

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First improve DT system, than ask people to join or leave.
I've seen several suggestions, and my favourite is still to require more than one DT1-vote to reach DT2, but I doubt there's a perfect solution.
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