Topic: Service Discussion > New sections. - page 2. (Read 2002 times)

I think it's a good idea. Lots of posters start threads about online wallets in the wrong parts of the forum. An onlime wallet discussion sub section would clear up the spam/shit posts.

An exchanges discussion only would also be good.

Yes, yes, yes! The service discussion board is used to discuss services that you are interested in or want to share your knowledge about. It's hard to do that with a dog's breakfast of a board.

A board for worthless response high activity threads would be useful. The discussion forum is clogged with the same old threads that nobody will read. I've taken to ignoring most threads with over 100 responses.

I do frequent that sub-section and also move a lot of threads in there regarding individual exchanges and online wallets.


We're not making a section only for those announcement threads, but rather for all the discussion about those services. Similarly, this is what happened with Micro-earnings, Collectibles and even Investor-based games. In all three cases I've went through hundreds of pages of threads and moved them in the newly created sections. In the long run it turned out to be a beneficial addition to the forum. It's a big forum and branching out(in a slow, calculated pace) is not a bad thing.
Discussion about exchanges is found in Service Discussion(individual exchanges) and in Trading Discussion(general discussion), not counting announcement threads in Service Announcements and off-topic threads in Bitcoin Discussion and Currency Exchange(moving them as I see them). Here's a list of threads based on the first 5 pages of Service Discussion only(block of text incoming). The list comprises about half of the threads in the first 5 pages(similar to the number of threads I've moved in Micro Earnings and Collectibles in the first few pages back then), and around half(or under) have a paid sig:

Online Wallets(36 threads):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-signing-wallet-feature-is-gone-1525092
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/best-online-wallet-1508202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-contact-xapo-support-please-use-our-faqs-httpssupportxapocom-902526
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchain-transaction-dissapered-1416222
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchain-negative-balance-1506618
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/help-cant-login-to-xapo-wallet-1519100
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtf-huge-coinbase-error-1520757
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/help-cant-login-to-xapo-wallet-1519100
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-multisig-vault-bug-unable-to-withdraw-1519988
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/questions-about-blockchaininfo-1518003
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchain-wallet-hacked-and-all-fund-has-been-taken-out-1516588
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xapo-wallet-safe-1508879
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/about-recovering-bitcoins-1477531
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-cancel-or-bump-fee-with-multi-sweep-address-transaction-1516825
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/problems-with-coinjar-1439729
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/helpproblem-with-non-confirmed-transaction-from-blockchaininfo-wallet-1514959
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-igotcom-is-either-running-a-scam-or-is-out-of-cash-1065373
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/helpproblem-with-non-confirmed-transaction-from-blockchaininfo-wallet-1514980
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-importexport-on-blockchaininfo-1513739
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-blockchain-wallet-does-not-support-paper-wallets-1508604
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-it-just-me-or-is-something-wrong-with-yunbi-1513395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/you-know-why-the-wallet-greenaddress-is-no-good-1512984
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-blockchaininfo-wallet-1510800
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-just-scammed-me-of-10k-usd-1483640
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchaininfo-wallet-dont-work-their-support-didnot-reply-i-cannot-use-money-1508171
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchaininfo-wallet-query-limit-133213
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-help-me-install-api-blockchain-1506661
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-cancellation-issues-are-not-resolved-145797
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-should-i-know-before-changing-to-the-new-blockchaininfo-wallet-1505823
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/telegram-and-telebit-1504769
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchaininfo-questions-from-a-noob-help-1502258

Exchanges(56 threads):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/some-one-tried-to-hack-my-yobit-account-1523484
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-accepting-credit-cards-and-paypal-1525042
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deleted-1496194
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/disturbing-practices-from-bitstampnet-1523501
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfinex-cant-log-in-1524199
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deposit-fee-money-polo-1523290
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoincoth-reviews-testimonials-comments-156402
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/localbitcoins-1521538
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfinex-fraudulent-earnings-1521419
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/questions-about-bitfinex-1522828
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/discussion-of-kraken-exchange-lets-share-important-info-here-1515276
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/using-poloniex-trllbox-for-trading-1520821
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mtgox-withdrawal-delays-gathering-179586
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-many-traders-do-you-think-there-are-on-the-major-exchanges-1519637
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitnet-is-a-scam-1378867
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/best-bitcoin-websites-with-easiest-to-use-features-money-orders-1519348
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/campbx-is-it-worth-buying-btc-from-them-1519064
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kraken-trailing-stop-trailing-stop-limit-explanation-needed-1520410
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poloniex-got-hacked-1515871
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/did-paypal-approve-selling-bitcoins-for-paypal-1523376
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coin2palinfo-1519345
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-any-knows-about-bitbayscom-1103900
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poloniex-did-anyone-get-their-account-frozen-1261707
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wall-of-coins-instantly-buy-or-sell-bitcoin-direct-812397
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poloniex-fucked-up-1516097
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/help-few-tips-on-how-to-trade-on-poloniex-1516763
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-coins-yobit-1467061
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-exchanges-have-their-own-blockchain-1516565
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poloniex-freezing-deposits-throttling-stuck-emails-wtf-1516177
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/officialbitfinexcom-first-bitcoin-p2p-lending-platform-for-leverage-trading-229438
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lending-on-poloniex-1461564
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anyone-tried-to-buy-btcs-with-credit-card-on-bitnovocom-1514569
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wb21com-free-bank-account-with-also-deposit-in-bitcoin-1512385
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/did-you-try-bitsquare-if-not-why-1510097
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/which-bitcoin-trading-platform-is-easy-and-reliable-1510860
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/does-xbtcecom-is-from-same-owner-of-btc-e-1513927
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/indacoin-buy-bitcoins-litecoins-with-a-credit-card-from-all-over-the-world-708622
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbuyin-scam-1511961
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/using-online-exchanges-while-in-new-york-state-a-resident-to-buy-altcoins-1512485
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-exchanges-1512075
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/any-tried-xbtcecom-for-trading-1511995
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-safe-is-tethertousdt-1509034
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-exchange-practices-1508805
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bitcoinica-consultancy-abandons-customers-bitcoinica-to-enter-liquidation-97272
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/itbit-and-tax-reporting-to-the-irs-and-1099-forms-1160323
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/691-btc-gone-at-okcoincn-solved-1508454
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-hitbtc-a-scam-1120816
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wirexappcom-and-e-coin-safe-reliable-1508856
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wirexappcom-and-e-coin-safe-reliable-1508856
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-safecex-exchange-official-scam-1428790
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobit-service-down-service-up-again-1505595
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-bitcoinexchnager-supporting-perfect-money-or-okpay-1508363
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-this-site-a-scam-1503860
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitquickco-hows-it-doing-now-and-days-1502923
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-happened-to-liberty-teller-1373878
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-do-we-know-about-gonzague-gay-bouchery-of-mt-gox-500639

Neither do I. I'd imagine that it is a mess. However, someone should try making some statistics to check what kind of threads (what type) actually represent most of the threads on a decent number of pages. That way, it would be 'insured' that the best call is made regarding the choice of new sub-sections. An example would be:

This.

Yes it is.

I'm with the idea , however, I'm not sure about the "Stores" section and how active it's going to be. Moderators should be ready btw because we all know how much it's going to take users to start posting in the right section.

but I think that moving everything (including the posts in service announcements) to the new sections will bring some chaos , don't you think? It will be kinda hard to find announcements from anything else.

If I'm being honest, I don't completely think this is needed at all. However, I don't frequently browse that sub-section so perhaps I do not have the right idea.
Looking at the first page or two though, a significant number of the topics wouldn't fit in to either of the sections mentioned in the OP. I think that maybe a:

• Service Discussion > Mining (Discussion for both physical and cloud minimg services)

Could be useful, as I see a number of threads relating to that throughout the first two pages of the board.

Isn't that covered by the Micro Earnings section?

How about

• Service Discussion > Giveways (Faucets and other sites that give away coins)

There is only around 10 or so major-ish exchanges currently (and a large amount of the exchange discussion is done by the signature spammers), so I am not quite sure that there are enough demand for exchanges to have their own subsection. Plus there are really not active threads about all of the exchanges.

There are currently even less online wallet services, however online wallets are heavily used by (newer) users, and I believe that the number of online wallet services will grow over time. There are also often numerous active threads about individual online wallet services. So I think there is probably sufficient demand for online wallets to have it's own subsection.

Over time, there will be more and more bitcoin related stores as adoption grows, and there is currently too many online stores that accept bitcoin, both exclusively and along with fiat. I think it should be fairly clear that there is enough demand for bitcoin stores to have it's own subsection.

Regarding signature campaigns, I understand that many people are annoyed by signature campaigns, however I do strongly feel that many people are able to earn their first bitcoin, and to get involved in bitcoin from signature campaigns. I do think that signature campaigns having their own subsection would be overall beneficial to bitcoin

i would recommend the 'comparison' board, due to some of the people made a board and the people who are wanting such information, cannot classify it because the thread is not be easily seen.
like 'list of signature campaign' will fit that kind of board.

No. If a Stores section would be added, then all the threads relevant to that section would be moved there. Such as announcement threads from Service Announcements, or discussion threads from Service Discussion(the Goods section is where buying/selling occurs between members, not between a member and a service).
Same would go for Exchanges and Online Wallets or whatever.
Same thing happened when Micro Earnings was introduced.

If a stores section is added will that lead to the goods section merging with the stores section?

Yes vote for it. Same is the case for service section, if you want to find some specific service you will have to go through first 10-15 Sig campaigns and than hoping the best to find it at 2nd or third page.please make sub section about Signature campaigns. Etc.

Definitely exchanges and and online wallets. There are plenty of threads on those two, not sure about stores though.

Yes please. Adding more sections is always good. It makes it easier to find stuff within the forum without having to go through loads of pages. Also, it allows me to block the section that I don't care about, thus improving what I see on the forum.

Starting this thread to discuss the interest of introducing new sections in the Service Discussion board: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=85.0
Current board description:

This is very broad and some services got their own section eventually(ie: Micro Earnings). The purpose is to reduce clutter and to help users find similar threads more easily.
Talked to theymos about it and if there's enough interest new sections will be added.
Here are some suggestions for new sections, mainly based on the number of threads about these services.

• Service Discussion > Exchanges (Discussion about individual exchanges)
• Service Discussion > Online Wallets (Discussion about online wallets)
• Service Discussion > Stores (Online and brick and mortar stores that accept Bitcoin)

Please only post suggestions for Service Discussion for now.
PS: haven't included signature campaigns  as there are a small number of active threads(plus, this has been brought up before).