Topic: Complete list of Crypto Casino and Sportsbook Scam Accusations (Read 736 times)

Will do. Thanks for taking over since you're doing a much better job than I did.

The new thread, List Scam Accusation Cases Against Casino Platform on The Forum, is on. I publish it on reputation board because I think it fits there better, being a topic for casinos' "reputation" rather than an accusation against them.

I previously left out betby as they'ra a provider and, being an only case, they fit nowhere on the table. But with above post about Spribe, I'll now make a section about provider, moving this case of Orbital into it and change the status accordingly.

You can lock this thread if you want to.

Added https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/aviator-is-no-longer-provablyfair-spribe-turned-to-scam-5481662

LMAO, that's just his... writing preferences. He did the same when he had a situation with BC a while back that made me a bit reluctant to help with his case. On his previous case, several trusted members even tried to tell him to refrain from those caps. You're still encouraged to approach his future case with good amount of coffee and meditation, though.

And yes, it's closed, OP locked his thread with the final conclusion as it's paid. I'll still add his case to the list for the record.

just saw that thread and from the looks of it the issue has already been solved and OP has been paid.

the OP of that thread needs to drink some chill pill the dude is losing it.

a month just in case the casino faces some issues when trying to verify the gambler's KYC, though two weeks(a week even) should be more than enough to verify someone's KYC.

Hi, yes. I've seen it, although I haven't give the thread a thorough read. The case with that OP always needs err... a great amount of coffee due to his writing style.


Shouldn't this be asked on a gambling board? I believe there are threads on that board that's covering about KYC

@holydarkness I'm sure you've seen this too but it's been added. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-fucking-scammer-son-of-a-bitches-5481236

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How much time do you guys give a casino to complete KYC verification before considering it too long? Normally I've been giving casinos a week or two depending on what's all involved. After that I hold it against them as far as ratings.

You're in the thread so you see it but it's added to first post. 500casino   1/9/2024    $10,000   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/500casino-scamming-for-10k-on-the-basis-of-being-limited-on-other-markets-5481003

This will be much appreciated. I was going to ask you for this, but I thought I can post the draft with current point I am at and update them daily as I progressed, reserving one or two posts for future updates, and let people post update of new cases on post number 4 and below... or I can just re-track the accusation board.

But surely keeping this one open and updated for the time being will be a better solution. I promise I won't be long. LOL.

Even weeks wouldn't be surprising. I'll just keep posting updates in the mean time until you clean everything up. Sometime when things are bumped it gets lost in the shuffle.

Hi, I'm composing the draft for the new thread right now. Given the huge amount of list and that I have to open each of the threads [and at least glance over them], and that I am doing it on my free time, it might take few days to be completed.

I added this to the first post "Stake   1/8/2024   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-stake-playing-fair-what-about-others-where-is-the-line-of-trust-here-5480777"

I'll close the thread whenever you guys are ready.

As 'Peeps Place' has suggested above, you may ignore those cases which are too old and inactive. There are also some accusation where the complainant disappeared after creating the accusation thread without providing any proofs. Those accusations can be ignored in the list. Otherwise, the list will be too big with some inaccurate complainants.

Thanks for including my thread. I wasn't scammed but Rollbit Razer just simply does not care one bit. I lost an estimated $7k due to all this, ($5k at the time but crypto inflated) But apparently it had to be done as part of their policies which can't be argued i guess.

The Rollbit community is great, and the staff team I had were mostly fine for the past couple of years other than this one loser(not razer but some regular staff) who decided to strip away 2 years of my time and contributions to the community at Rollbit's Discord server because of the website ban(I gambled a couple of times with small amounts using their rollbit.com domain instead of sticking with rollbot.com which doesn't allow any gambling and oh by the way there are literal fake rollbit websites when you search rollbot.com too), even though a staff member right before him told me I was allowed to stay (I'm either reading it wrong or they can't get their own decisions straight)

Back when all this initially happened I remember responding to him and he immediately puts another staff member to deal with it. Since this is the start, I thought it was just some mere coincidence, e.g maybe he was busy and I didn't think of it much.

Overtime, I've later learned to realize just how much he just does not give a fuck about what happens. I also thought he was caring about people at first due to the fact that he often responds here to "help" people out, but I later realized that this could all just to potentially save face to Rollbit's reputation.  If he did truly care he would've provided actual advice on my thread or wished he knew anything to help rather than continuously giving out half assed responses that he seemingly sends out with the same tone and semi cut and paste replies to almost every other thread complaining about Rollbit. It is clear that he hasn't fully read my thread and his response of telling me to go and contact the company was already addressed long before his reply. However, he did at least explain why he sent my funds to the last depositing wallet without any prior notice saying it was a standard practice, which is fair. But after all going through all this then I remember viewing his replies too to other people, Razer literally acts like an NPC on the forums, just look at his replies, they are all literally identical other than to the situation I haven't checked in like 2 months now but I remember just being sick at how much his replies felt nearly the same to everyone and thinking "what the fuck man?".

I just want you all to know that Rollbit Razer DOES NOT TRULY CARE. In all fairness I've noticed some of these threads were from people who did illegally gain their money or were involved in much more serious stuff pending investigation but still what the hell.

To help out some, if an accusation was made in 2022 and is still ongoing, then it was omitted. Original accusation date of Jan 1, 2023 or after are included. Only accusations in this sub-forum are included. If made in an ANN thread and not included in the Scam Accusation forum, then it’s not included.

LMAO, let me sleep over it for a few days? That post I made above took about four hours to edit the link and get a quick refresher course. I probably will, given I've planned about it before, but let me mull over it for a while, given I probably have to re-sweep several pages of the accusation boards to check if the list provided here covers everything [if my memory serves me right, I think some cases are not mentioned here] I can't imagine how many hours will be spent on it.

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Ahh... thank you. I'll most likely use this format fixed by you if I take over the list from OP. And yes, the strikethrough will be completely abandoned when the list are displayed on table.

Seems like it is getting narrowed when the long texts are in the first column. I just put another column before it to find the solution, I also put the 'vertical line' (|) symbol between other column to give it a better look.

Maybe the status of the accusations with different colour is enough to know the situation. The strikethrough will give the table a messy look.

You are pretty much active in the scam accusation section. Maybe you should try to finalize this topic with a better table format.

BitcoinGirl.Club, if I may color code the cases based on my very personal opinion, with the criteria as below,

Active
- Cases that met with Rollbit's silence without clear explanation

Inactive/Not Applicable
- Old case that's been more than one month without any update from the accusers [with Razer already replied]
- Cases where Razer has addressed and the accuser didn't challenge the counter-accusation or invitation to arbitrator
- Cases that are out of Rollbit's hand [Sportsbook's decision, clash of interest with legal compliance]

Open
- Cases that's open and waiting to be cleared

Resolved
- Case that reached resolution, either implied or clearly stated

the cases will be like this:

Rollbit
Rollbit   1/5/2024   $110,117.52   Rollbit Holding my withdrawl Open | Pending 3rd party AML review
Rollbit   12/6/2023   $30,000   [RESOLVED] Rollbit withdrawal of 30k USD pending for 4 days Resolved
Rollbit   11/28/2023   $292.00   Rollbit voided my won bet after match finished Not Applicable | Bet was cancelled by the provider, not Rollbit
Rollbit  11/5/2023  $22,000  Rollbit Stealing $22k and Banning my Account - Not Applicable | Fund contain trace of ML activity, case set to private
Rollbit  10/23/2023  ?  Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address - Not Applicable | [IMO]¹
Rollbit  10/4/2023 ? 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT robbed my money. I made honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 Inactive | OP never returned
Rollbit   8/31/2023   ?   Rollbit.com + Pragmatic Blackjack Scammed Me Inactive | OP never returned, Razer last reply was his ticket is closed   
Rollbit   8/21/2023   $30,211.00   Rollbit Scam. Cannot Withdraw $30,211. Being Ignored by Support. Inactive | Razer offered to escalating to their licensor, I think OP didn't accept it... for unspecified reason   
Rollbit   6/29/2023   $410.00   Rollbit disabling account and confiscating balance of $410 Resolved
Rollbit   4/19/2023   $10,200.00   Rollbit disables account and seizes funds (10.2k)! Inactive | Escalated to their licensor, never updated   
Rollbit   6/25/2023   $4,000.00   Rollbit Holding $4k Withdrawal | Been 7 days+ Resolved
Rollbit   5/25/2023   $5,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5k-gdpr-problem-5454027 Active | Never addressed
Rollbit   4/8/2023   $920.00   Rollbit hold funds and ignore in chat Resolved | Sportsbook abuse, fake credentials proven through video verification   
Rollbit   4/6/2023   $255.00   rollbit scam (255 USDT) Resolved | explained here   
Rollbit   4/3/2023   $350.00   Rollbit scam Resolved
Rollbit   3/7/2023   $12,800.00   Rollbit Withdrawal Frozen For $12,800 & No Response Resolved
Rollbit   2/23/2023   ?   Scammed by Rollbit Inactive | it was about verifying a bet to be sure it's not a graphic glitch, I think OP finally managed to verify it   
Rollbit   2/21/23   $1,497.00   (SCAM) ROLLBIT.COM - you Deposit 1497 BUSD, you Withdraw 0 (account blocked) Active | never addressed   
Rollbit   1/10/2023   ?   Rollbit Scammed Not Applicable | It was... 8bet's case, OP tried to scam
Rollbit   1/3/2023   $737.00   SCAM rollbit $737.00 Not Applicable | sportsbook limitation circumvention

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OP, I also took the initiative to summarize sportsbet's cases, because as far as I know they're quite prompt in solving cases, they'll look like this:

Sportsbet
Sportsbet  12/3/2023   $14,500.00   Sportsbet scam my $14450 please help me Inactive | OP was advised to escalate to mediator, never heard from him ever since
Sportsbet   11/5/2023  ?  (SOLVED) Sportsbet.io - rude support and wierd decisions Resolved | fritvalg
Sportsbet    9/29/2023  $5,000  Sportbet.one just stole $5k usd from me Not Applicable | this is sportbet[dot]one's case, not sportsbet[dot]io's, different casino
Sportsbet   9/13/2023   $250.00   DO NOT BET ANYMORE ON SPORTSBET.IO, wrong bet decision on unusual match Resolved
Sportsbet   8/22/2023   38.32 LTC    Not Applicable | it seems to be a case of clipboard hijacking, not SB's mistake
Sportsbet   8/14/2023   $1,200.00   SPORTSBET.io falsely accuses me of multi-accounting, and REFUSES to pay my money Inactive | OP stopped responding after his case was escalated to the licensor
Sportsbet   4/24/2023   $1,350.00   SPORTSBET.io accuse me with multi accounting and DONT PAY MY WINNINGS Resolved
Sportsbet   3/23/2023   $5,500.00   Sportsbet.io Steal money | Resolved | accused to be multi-accounting and OP's post history prove he's buying SB accounts
Sportsbet   5/4/2023   ?   SPORTSBET.IO - FAKE GAMES IN-PLAY - BE CAREFUL Resolved | fritvalg²
Sportsbet   4/3/2023   219 mBTC   [RESOLVED] Sportsbet.io - Holding my funds (342 mBTC) Resolved
Sportsbet   2/14/2023   $1,731.00   sportsbet.io scam 1731 usdt Inactive | OP escalate the case to licensor, never came back to give an update
Sportsbet   3/8/2023   $1,700.00   SCAM SITE Sportbet.io stealing money ( IMPORTANT ) Resolved
Sportsbet   1/17/2023   $250.00   Sportsbet.io took my money inactive but I am somewhat believe it's resolved | case of double-spend that Steve said his team will look into
Sportsbet   1/5/2023   $6,472.00   Sportsbet.io multi-accounting problem Resolved

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Would you be so kind and tell me what I did wrong?


This is a good idea. I  can agree that, at times, cases are not black and white, it's not as simple as active and resolved. Just so it happens, I tried the same approach as you proposed when I started my summary above, with "inactive" and "not applicable" marked in orange. I think your proposed "neutral" is the equivalent of my "open" [marked in blue]. Although I am still torn whether we should mark the ones I color-coded in orange as strikedthrough [thus, considered solved] or not.

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¹The OP shared majority of the blame because he deliberately waited 1 year to do AML level KYC. Part of 2nd layer of AML by casino is to return the verified fund to the originating address [in OP's case, FTX's address]. Razer offered to "compensate" the lost fund by hiring the OP of that thread in their campaign once he can wear signature.

² The accuser was the same as the one raising a thread on case number #2, given he returned to SB 7 months later [4th May and then 5th November] I think it's safe to say his earlier case [the one on 4th May] got resolved or having similar outcome, which encourage him to stay with SB

Testing the format

|	Thread	|	Complainant	|	Disputed Amount	|	Status
|	BC.game asking me to lose intentionally, then confiscating funds	|	GekkeBelg	|	mBTC88	|	resolved
|	BC GAME LOSES DISPUTE AGAINST ME - AND STILL DOES NOT PAY MY WINNINGS	|	Jannn	|	$3,409	|	resolved
|	BlockDance B.V., BC.Game and its Fraudulent “Operator Verifier”	|	earlypaco	|	$7,111	|	resolved
|	BC.Game cancelled my bonuses and locked my account with $100k+ USD balance	|	-god-	|	$250,000	|	invalid
|	BC.Game - can't withdraw 7.97 BTC	|	dplay	|	BTC7.97	|	resolved
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How about putting different reasons in the status part? The user '-god-' has come with an invalid complaint where he is guilty for the inconvenience. The accusations can be marked as "resolved, invalid, neutral, unresolved" based on the evidences, response from the casino, activity of the OP, etc.

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I think I can manage the list by making an appropriate table format, but it will take a bit long time to do that. And I won't be able to do this now as I'm busy in real life. I can do it in the next month when I will have enough free time. Otherwise, 'Pmalek' can also do it in a better way if he has the time to do it now.