Topic: are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ? (Read 660 times)

My second link is a very well documented scam accusation. The photos from back then have disappeared unfortunately, but everything is illustrated in writing. I’ll put back the photos soon when I have time.

I've played on both gambling sites up until now and I don't see any problems especially during withdrawals, but my withdrawals are not as big as 10k. I'm not really sure how do they handle big withdrawals like that but as far as I know those two have been here for a while and both and one of the big names here. If the withdrawals are legitimate and personally you are legally playing in the site, I don't think there would be any problem, as long as you are ready to give information to them (Not sure, but most of gambling sites do ask KYC when it comes to big withdrawals).

If you put it in scam accusations, I'll add it to the list.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 Scam accusations.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790 Full list of scam accusations sorted by book.

No Fortunejack is not. Don’t listen to the massive dishonest people here who can’t have a better job than being a forum poster and get paid what would be a big pay in a third world country.

Checkout these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63247630

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279

It’s been a long time pictures have gone for my second post but I’ll reinstate them soon.

Also check the profiles of the casino managers before you play, and if its owners are known, just to see if these are people you want to deal with.

Its been almost 2 weeks now but you did not come here to hear some advise , are you still interested in which casino to play? fortune jack and rollbit are to most popular site in bitcoin talk and has both running campaign here so you can check them both thread so to justify how trustworthy of them.

Links to all ANN threads and KYC rankings

Yes, he/she could visit up their ANN threads and look for him/herself about the feedbacks of people.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-cryptos-most-rewarding-casino-5326640
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejackcom-deposit-777-play-with-1777-mbtc-live-casino-slots-betting-774929

Just like been said and mentioned above that both sites or platforms are both known here on this forum
on which their reputation is really that on the legit side of things and it would really be that impossible
that you wont really be able to assess up on things which one is legit and which one isnt.

The good thing here on this forum is that you could really be able to get those real time feedbacks and comments
of people that been playing on there.

You can go to ANN fortunejack to see for yourself the display of player transactions regarding successful deposits made by players who make them. I just want to say that fortunejack and rollbit are casinos that have earned the trust of many players.

We learn from the experience of other people who are very experienced in playing in many casinos who have spent a lot of capital and have never complained about the problems that occur. Several topics that review the best casinos, fortunejack and rollbit are included in the recommendations of most users.
From here I took the reference that Fortunejack and Rollbit casinos can be trusted.

That is same concerns me also if he is truly interested in finding which and playing or just a random question to seek here,  and seeing his post History that most are in Trading section https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zigger33-1316271 maybe he is not into gambling now as a risk factor is concern , or he just changed His mind to not spending that 10k in gambling instead turn into  Trading.

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And about the two gambling sites? have been playing for years in FJ and have tried also Rollbit and never experience any issues but ? I am a small bettor so this does not concerns OP's question .

When it comes to sports betting then the user experience isnt really that too far off. I do make out some betting on Rollbit and the experience is really that good and same goes with FJ back in the past.
Here's some direct link for Rollbit on which it would direct out on sports https://rollbit.com/sports?
When it comes to accusations and issues, then we might really be able to see some but it wont really be taking up that too long because it is really that been resolved immediately
and this is what i like with these platforms. They had been tested by time and able to get that trust from the community but of course it would really be always
reflecting out on the thing that they are really that doing because they wont really be lasting up and existing for so long or for years if they do really suck on this one.
This is why in both options then it isnt really that a bad choice either.

I think most of the casinos over here are good ones and choices are greatly dependent on the gambler’s preferences and one thing worth pointing out it’s the fact that most of these casinos at some points might want to demand for KYC and the amount mentioned by op is a big amount which I’m sure would trigger KYC at point of withdrawal and some casinos wager requirements are ridiculous and wager requirements should also be on the top list of things to consider while gambling.
So I think irrespective of the amount to wager or deposit, one should consider KYC and wager requirements.

Ever since I started out here and saw multiple gambling platforms, FJ has been the most known (aside from Stake) when it comes to your choices. I have rarely read some accusations or problems, that I remember of, with it. Maybe if I did, they would have probably resolved it quickly. Rollbit has also been a great addition, but I haven't completely tried it there.

I think what's important most of the time is that casinos if you have enormous amounts, require KYC. So I think you better be careful with it. If it's ok with you, then I think you won't have any problems.

Are withdrawal issues the only thing that worry you? Why dont you start from reading ToS and making a test deposit? How I see your situation - if you follow the rules, you will never face any issues. And it does not matter if you bet on rollbit, fortunejack or any other popular on bitcointalk and reputed on the internet casino.

You know OP, there is something strange about your question. If you managed to earn enough, to be able to make such amounts to gamble, then you probably already should know how to manage your finance. Where you can gamble quietly, where you can spend your money. If there something worries you, then you probably had issues before. And I think it would be better if you share that info here, so we could advice you or answer your question more correctly. If you just want to make all of a sudden $50k single bet, then I would not recommend to do that, but would recommend first to build some reputation, history on those two platforms, rank up, wager and etc. Because a freshly registered account, that deposits $50k and makes all-in bet really looks suspicions for their security managers.

according to the forum reputation , these 2 sites are reputable and have been serving the gamblers/bettors for years now as yes they are facing some problem but those are tolerable and they are addressing their issues.
it's your money mate, your decisions .

Yeah they can handle that amount since $10k or $50k is not actually a big amount for them and we see both casino is running a good promotion which they pay a lot of money to their campaign participants also to their contest participants winner so I guess there's no problem to deal with such amount with those casino since so far they have good standing rating in this community.

But as other say that OP should be prepapre to the KYC ask since this is common requirements will be ask to them especially if he want to deal with such amount on casino since if he just deposit it and suddenly withdraw the amount then expect that there's investigation will happen since both casino doesn't like any money laundering schemes happening on their casino so OP and people should make sure that they are not participating on this kind of activity since for sure they will be hold and might face more bigger issue.

It's not that simple. Some gamblers don't feel comfortable providing their KYC in any site unless absolutely necessary and Rollbit's recent KYC related accusations steered away many gamblers.

If op has no issue providing his KYC at any stage in either of these casinos, he should go ahead and invest. However, if he has issues with KYC, he should avoid them.

I don't do bet with a high amount but both casino/bookies has a good reputation in this forum especially fortunejack which is one of among the oldest casino I know that is still active in this forum up to the current date. Personally I do bets with Stake because it is my preferred casino/bookies but I'm confident that both of the casinos/bookies will have no problem about the withdrawal. There's a lot of high rollers and big bettors in the casino mentioned, that's why I don't think that there will be a problem with the withdrawal. As long as you abide their rules and they didn't detect a issue, everything will be fine,

Also make sure that you are ready for a KYC, there's a high chance that you will get flagged by all of these casinos with the amout you are betting.

Currently, the two casinos in question have a good reputation, which makes me think that they are reliable when it comes to handling larger amounts of money. However, if I were in your position, I would suggest using multiple bookies to place larger bets, in order to reduce the risk of any unexpected events, since hacking is quite common these days. I strongly advise against betting more than you can afford to lose. Trust me, it's not worth the risk. I know that sometimes you may feel confident about a bet, but in the end, the team you bet on may lose.

I have never withdrawn that much with any bookies but IMHO, fortunejack is one of the oldest and trusted casinos that I have seen. I was even part of their older version of campaign that ran for a very long time and even until now, they still run one. But setting aside discussions about their campaigns and budgets, if you'll be entrusting them with that amount or you win that much big. I have not seen a lot of complains about their withdrawals and deposits there. Whilst for Rollbit, it's not just now they're known as a casino, they also have their RLB or rollbit coin that has to reflect with their casino activities. Either of the two are good and again this is IMO, you should have no problems with them but KYC might be enforced and there might be some other type of treatment with users that have larger funds on their accounts.

The answers will always different from their experiences , some may confirm but others will not give a damn because it is your money and you must be responsible to where you will be depositing and betting that amount.
But 10k - 50k  for single bet? there are even million dollars amount of bet though I cannot confirm on those 2 because I am not their player but in other sites such as sportsbet and other site has this larger amounts.

try their site with small amount first mate, try to become at least their VIP for more comfortable and safer deposit and playing .
for me personally? it takes time and partnership before I will finally deposit huge amount such that.

Gambling site is not your private wallet so why will you be worried about having large amount in the platform? Unless you want to use same to play more games, you can withdraw to your private wallet, leaving only the amount you plan to continue gambling with. There have not been any bad record from either of the platforms, so I don't see why heavy gamblers cannot use them.

Most big gamblers prefer remaining private, that is why you will never know that some people are betting and withdrawing amounts bigger than those you mentioned. One clue you should know is that both platforms have been around for a while with no bad reputation. Rollbit is even expanding and have launched additional platform (Duel Arena) which should allay your fears.

First and foremost, these two Casino's and sports books have been around for quite some time in this industry which gives them some reputation in the biz, but like every platform these days, players need to read and understand their terms and conditions of each platform to avoid be caught off guard and claim these platforms are trying to get your funds..
If you play by their rules, then you should have no problem with withdraws and everything else!

OK, then from that viewpoint, would you say that Rollbit is currently going under and the admins might be trying to steal $30,000 from that particular user? OR could there actually be something going on with said user? Because it's also very possible that Rollbit's admins have already been studying the user's every action in the casino, no?

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FJ is one of the casinos that is running for years and there is no active accusation against them so they are clear to bet higher amounts. And rollbit is comparatively new but they are also turning out to be one of the highly wagered casino but you need to go through the TOS before depositing to make sure that you are not committing any mistake that could be end up in potential loss.

Both casino is trusted enough if the user didn't break the rules and regulations of the casino cause once they break the rules then they will face the consequences. Which pretty bad it will lead into banned account once they prove that you were  using some cheats or any suspecios things. And also about KYC it's will expected once you are using a licensed casino cause most of them ask for KYC but it takes a few time so it's better to obey with it

Sportsbooks go under all the time. Not all but most of the time they take our money with. Some of these books were big at one time. There's no need to risk your money. Here's a list of closed books and scam books. It's the players own fault if they want to take the risk of playing at sportsbooks that have many open complaints. The information is out there.

OK, that's probably a legit claim, but it might also be an isolated issue. Because why would Rollbit, a multi-million-dollar casino, risk the reputation of their business for a mere $30,000 by not allowing the withdrawal, and telling the user that he/she has to "list his/her other accounts"? OR it's probably an honest mistake?

You are right most of the time the player is disgruntled but there are still a lot of legit claims. There are a lot of accusations against Rollbit. Here's one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996

Most of the time, I believe the users who post that "this casino scammed me" are merely frustrated because they have lost their money through no self-control, and gambling more than they could afford to lose. It's rare that a brand new/newbie account has an actual scam-accusation against a well-established casino in the forum.

There was the issue with BC.Game, but they took their time, and I believe their admins studied the problem thoroughly before making the right decision. Any casino business can't merely surrender to the demands of their customers. That would be a path for it to be deceived regularly.

fortunejack.com has been around for years, i don't think a large amount will turn them into scams, they must have more BTC than any regular person since they have operated their casino for more than 2 halving. but they will certainly ask for your KYC. i think rollbit as well.

once a casino has built a reputation for years without scamming, i think they'd want to keep their reputation for good. no one wants to waste the years of hard work.

Yeah, the KYC is trouble for the ones who are high-rollers because if they win a lot of bets then surely they'll have to pas KYC in order to withdraw the money that they have won. The casinos often delay the KYC of those players who earned a lot of money and that's a fact. Most of the casinos known to delay the KYC approval and that allows them to pay the winners a little bit late and most of the players don't have patience to wait for that long and during the approval time they tend to place more bets and end up losing everything. That's why it's far better to have KYC approval before gambling with any casino.

@OP it's already three days since you opened this thread, so have you gamble on there and what's your experience with them? I see most of users are saying both of them can be trusted.

What people were saying about KYC because when you need to verify your account, usually it will takes time and you might find it as a problem since verification isn't automatically approved.

I believe with the technology and the innovation available to us through Bitcoin, there probably should be a sort of decentralized escrow service. Would such an app be possible to build through Bitcoin Script, or build one through the use of multisig escrow? That could be very useful, especially for high-rollers. The first casino to have it might attract them.

Some think about those accusation legit especially if they didn't do any research to validate those accusation posted. But most of those post has been eliminated since its has proven created by abuser or just a simply troll which want to create trouble to their businesses. That's why its important for us to go on their threads so that we can find out how the people there say something on the service provided by those casino since we can get an idea if they are good or a bad casino to choose.

But do we really need to scatter the funds we have? If we really eager to gamble then I guess its better to choose one of them but I discourage to deposit a lot of money to avoid trouble and instead use what he think a small amount to use for gambling and have fun there since with that he will never get a worry about his funds to get compromised but instead he would provably have a lot of fun playing on those casino's.

With all the advantages and disadvantages of both, I think FJ and Rollbit can be trusted as casinos for big bets.

It is very wise to pay attention to every big or small incident that occurs at the casino that is experienced by each player.
Sometimes wise thinking like yours is needed before making a claim in public. Big time-tested casinos such as Rollbit and Fortunejack have many ways to solve every problem that players receive so that players can feel comfortable playing.

It is true that almost all casinos have a scam accusation posted against them, but the question is, are these accusations legit? or the player who is posting the accusation is breaching the TOS?  Regardless, we should look at how the casino reacted and explain their side of these accusations.

Regardless, instead of putting the wager in one casino why not scatter the bet in different casinos, this way when one casino bookmaker forbids us to withdraw the winnings, we still have others that we can possibly get our winnings.  Just like not putting our eggs in one basket.

The second case is listed as resolved. The third 2020. The fourth 2017. The first one is an oversight on my part and will be corrected. The list is for cases that opened after Jan 1, 2023. The “A” books have no open accusations. A couple others too.

Rollbit was downgraded to “D-“ since they do have a lot of accusations in 2023. Links are posted to all accusations so that people can do their own research and check the validity of the claim. Links for ANN threads are included.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

First before I comment, I will want to read these https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1500-5472748, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5466779, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-did-not-pay-9-bitcoin-win-no-contact-to-me-scam-2489072, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejackcom-is-scam-5221371 probably those cases had been settled but I brought them to your notice because of what you said that Fortunejack have not be accused of scam. I don't really know but for believed, no casino is free from scam accusations but the ability of the casino to respond and settled the accusation cases is the matter. I am not saying that Fortunejack is a bad casino but I am trying to make you to understand that no casino is free from accusation. Rollbit is one of the best and reputable casino in the forum like wise Fortunejack.

With fortunejack, they've been established and been here for so long and only a few complaints were there. With rollbit, you go to the scam accusations board and you see a lot of them.

Not saying that they're poor in service or what not but there's a difference between the two. And if you're going to deposit such amounts, you should do it little by little.

Both have been here for so long and IMHO, are good to 'fine' casinos.

There is a KYC column for each sportsbook with a KYC rating of 0 to 5. A 0 rating means no KYC and 5 is mandatory. The books with a 1 rating will not do KYC if you aren't using a VPN. This allows them to see jurisdiction as well as confirming that you only have one account.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

Both casinos are good Buddy, fortunejack is a reputable casino well known on this forum, I personally have never played with such amount of money as you mentioned, but there are many withdrawals from that casino worth up to hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not more) without issues, so trust that, this is one of those casinos you can really trust.

And for Rollbit, it's also a trusted casino, though there have been some complaints from customers about this casino here and there, but I believe they are still good, and you can safely withdraw a really huge amount of money from this casino without issues, and even if issues rise up, trust that it will be resolved amicably as long as you post about it on this forum.

I just made a little investigation about the list given by @
"Peeps Place", and all I could observe is that KYC verification is the common factor said to the linking the whole list presented by "Peeps Place", of which the only way to be able to use these casinos with no stress, is when you are willing to subscribe to all levels of KYC verification the very moment you register your account without waiting for your fund to be frozen or account locked, because inasmuch as you do not violate any of the casino rules, you are rest assured of gambling safely on these two casinos. But never forget to gamble responsibly.

fortunejack.com and rollbit.com which I know are sites with good reputations. I haven't heard from people about major and severe complaints experienced when playing at fortunejack.com and rollbit.com.

There are bound to be minor complaints regardless of the site a player plays on.
I make no guarantees, but reputable sites like fortunejack and rollbit will not cheat players even in large amounts.

It depends on how gamblers entrust the casino to hold our money, fortunately I am only a small gambler so when I really feel cheated by the casino it doesn't really stress me out because I have to deal with and report the loss of big money, I don't feel confident and confident in putting big money in. casinos because there are many cases where money is frozen and accounts are frozen for no reason, even accounts that have been verified can become unverified and have to be re-verified, which in the end will fail and be rejected.

Since I have seen many cases like that, I am not sure about playing gambling with big bets, even though I play on big sites, it still makes me hesitate to play anywhere, always looking for safety, playing gambling just to have fun, not to make a lot of money from gambling. . so I might feel it's enough to just play with smaller capital.

As long as you play honestly and correctly, there are no negative elements and suspicious things, no game manipulation, my understanding is 10k-50k is easy to make a withdrawal for a reputable casino and is known to many people here.

My experience is that my friend once played at the rollbit.com casino, once withdrew 15k, without any problems, which I certainly don't know about other people, besides I only bet small amounts, for me it's safe.

The point is: anything can happen if we play at an online casino, just a suggestion, if you are in doubt, don't back out, nothing guarantees you a loss, except: you know some of the team that works at the casino, all decisions are on your side, high-risk gambling and placing large bets has at least one person in charge who can be trusted at the online casino where we want to bet.

FortuneJack, I'd still entrust some money to them. Most of the complaints I came across are only for delays on withdrawals that are being solved when raised, together with the overall site functionality. With Rollbit, they have been bombarded with a lot of complaints recently, most of which are directly tied with scams involving their platform.

Overall though, I won't entrust a huge amount of money to any platform AT ALL under any circumstances. It's best to stay safe even if you're being just too paranoid and nothing bad will really happen. Prevention is better than cure, and that rings true even with gambling platforms.

I've read some of them before. Casinos often welcome the accusers to move the case to third party arbitrators or file a formal complaint to the license providers since they have evidence that they cannot provide publicly. If some casinos don't want to deal with the bs that comes from dealing with accusations then that's their prerogative.

a lot of people like to gamble as anonymously as possible. I for one like to gamble without doing any KYC, it's not that I have something to hide, it's just that I don't trust them enough to keep my personal information safe. I don't like people that I don't completely trust to have information about me especially if it can be avoided. also, as you probably have seen data breach seems to be happening a lot these days.

At first, that is also what I'm thinking about but I accidentally saw what @Peeps Place have wrote above about Rollbit having lots of scam accusation. I am not aware with this yet. But I guess that is because I rarely visit the scam acquisition boards of our forum.

I only visit their official announcement thread sometimes and most that I see there are positive comments. I don't know what is the truth yet but it's better to be cautious only be safe. We can start with like you said there @traderethereum of depositing only minimal amounts. It also has another advantage and that is it prevents us to be greedy and become addicted to gambling.

I think that no bookmaker can be trusted with large bets. It doesn't matter if it's a small crypto bookie or a big fiat bookmaker.
Do you really plan to bet amounts over 10K on bookmaker platform? Why are you asking for Fortunejack and Rollbit only?
There are other crypto bookies out there. I wouldn't recommend any bookie in particular, because I don't want anyone to blame me for their loss(or for their future problems with the bookmaker).
AFAIK, some bookies become suspicious when they see ridiculously large bets on certain games.
Are you really going to trust some random guy on the internet, who will say "Yeah, I was betting 10K on Fortunejack or Rollbit and I had zero problems!"? I don't trust the opinions of random strangers on the internet.

So far my existence on this platform, both casinos are very much active here and are amongst the reputable casinos that have long existed on this platform and have a running signature campaign.

OP, there is no casino here that does not require for KYC when it comes to withdrawal of big or huge amount of money. Of course it is the normal thing they do but I will advise you do not depend on just a bookie but rather split it across other bookies as well. And if your intentions are to hold such funds on casino, I will advise you not to do such because anything can happen at anytime and it would be in your best interest to keep your funds in your own personal wallet for your own safety.

Wrong. @Peeps Place literally mentioned that there were open, unresolved scam accusations against Rollbit within this forum. On the other hand, Fortunejack doesn't have any in comparison.

Both sites are popular for sure, but I would trust FJ with huge amounts over Rollbit any day though their BTC minimum withdrawal amount is too high.

It's because it is the very tenant of crypto specially in the beginning, we just need addresses before, specially for withdrawal. After that it's smooth sailing, no need to give your personal information in the early days of online crypto, regardless of what amount you won or trying to withdrawal.

But when bitcoin or crypto grow in the last 5 years or so, regulators pushes every services to to follow AML/KYC policy, hence we are now required to send those information in a casino and obviously, majority doesn't want to because we still wanted to be private and anonymous.

I'll just let the community decide in this case, both have reputations here though but everyone has it's own thoughts on this case.

Those both bookies are very great and rollbit has been here over the past years as well as fortunejack and both haven’t had any unresolved issues over the time and I think you can trust them with over a $50k bet but to not always advisable to put your eggs in just one basket so I would advise that you split it.
But nevertheless I think stake is one of the biggest when it comes to staking power and I would confidently advise you to try stake because of how much trustworthiness it has proven in time past and I’ve seen bets of over $200k on their platform and that’s just a few but to mention.

I think you’re giving op a broad brand of work and one wouldn’t have to judge a casino by every scam accusation levied against them and I think most of these casinos also have similar terms and conditions and you wouldn’t have to judge them based on the T&C  because this can also change at anytime.
I think reviews from the community and forum will also help one make a decision about a particular casino.

I believe there are known people in crypto that gamble in Rollbit and Stake regularly without problems and that have also vouched for them. One of them is known for his Twitter username as "KeyboardMonkey". I believe he is just one of the few real professional traders that has truly made large profit through trading cryptocurrencies. There's also another Bitcoin whale mentioned here in BitcoinTalk that gambles in either Rollbit or Stake, called Gainzy.

For users in the forum, I've seen those newbie accounts in BlackJack.Fun's topic that are known in the site as the whales from their community chat.

All gambling sites have some scam accusations nowadays not resolved or in the past.

The best solution to understand if a specific site Is suitable to our gambling style, arise from specific ToS of the site and not only from scam accusation.
I am not referring to any specific claim, but I will sugggest anyway to read "all details..." before take any decision

I'm not worried about theft of funds because they won't do that. This will damage the trust of its members, who have made the casino their favorite casino.
But by using a lot of money, we can run the risk of losing and there is also another problem that we have to be aware of, namely gambling addiction. You use big money to gamble and that means there is a possibility that you will gamble longer than usual and that means you take the risk of losing the money if you lose.
So it's better if we use small money to gamble. After all, our goal in gambling is just to have fun and spend our free time, so there is no need to use big money to gamble.

Read some of the scam accusations. If the Book says that you are multi-accounting or playing from a restricted region, it's your word against their word. Some books you don't have to deal with he said, she said. That's why they have no open scam accusations.

If you just play normally and don't act "smart" trying to exploit bonuses and other loopholes then you should be okay. The best thing you could do is to always ask the customer support of the specific things you want to know before playing so you would have some sort of evidence in case your funds gets frozen.

Remember that this is a bitcointalk community. Privacy is important and taught here.

I'd like to correct this. Rollbit has many open scam accusations. Here's the list for sportsbooks. Scam accusations updated monthly. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

Scam accusations from January 1, 2023 - November 11, 2023

Nitrobetting A+
0 accusations

Betcoin A+ . Betcoin does agree to binding 3rd party aribitration of player's choice.
Betcoin   6/17/2023   $7,700.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-is-trying-to-scam-me-off-my-77k-usd-balance-resolved-5456682   Resolved
Betcoin   4/23/2023   $1,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-scam-1000-5449900   Resolved
Betcoin   4/21/2023   .213 BTC   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoin-permanently-suspended-my-account-and-withholding-my-5449749   Arbitration Offered
Betcoin   2/5/2023   $20,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/085-btc-20k-scam-playbetrcom-betcoinag-scam-accounts-closed-ignoring-5438132 Resolved thepogg
Betcoin   2/26/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-closing-my-account-and-keeping-my-funds-5441329   Resolved
Betcoin   2/14/2023   $15,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-betcoinag-scamming-15k-including-deposit-scammed-5439834   Resolved

mBet A-
0 accusations

Stake B
Stake   9/28/2023  ?     https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-and-casinoguru-coverup-5468477
Stake   9/14/2023   $20,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-scammed-me-off-apx-20000-usdti-want-my-hard-earned-money-backhelp-pls-5466839   
Stake   9/11/2023   $100,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-lock-my-account-after-winning-100k-5466400   
Stake   9/8/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-false-tranaction-not-found-5466109   Resolved
Stake   9/4/2023   $541.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-stakecom-solved-5465677   Resolved
Stake   8/11/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-do-not-trust-the-marketing-and-promotions-team-5462873   Resolved
Stake   8/1/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-stakecom-missing-bets-from-the-website-archive-odds-not-matching-5461706   
Stake   7/24/2023   $75.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-scamed-by-stake-5460913   Resolved
Stake   7/7/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-is-a-scam-the-use-sensors-to-manipulate-the-bets-nothing-fair-5458920   
Stake   7/4/2023   10500 XRP   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-stakecom-stole-10500-xrp-5458557   
Stake   7/3/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-family-scam-business-since-90s-5458456   
Stake   6/2/2023   $2,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-scammed-me-due-to-racial-discrimination-and-personal-issues-5454864   
Stake   5/15/23   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-stole-hundreds-of-thousands-from-me-ilegally-5452766   
Stake   5/17/2023   0.14892000 BTC   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-scammed-me-for-015-btc-5453029   
Stake   10/11/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-account-suspended-proof-of-funds-how-to-provide-5416789   
Stake   4/14/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-stakecom-blocking-withdrawal-and-not-responding-to-emails-5448883   
Stake   2/21/2023   $165,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hacked-for-165k-stakecom-5440739   
Stake   1/4/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-is-unfair-and-biased-nothing-but-classism-5433046   

Bitsler B-
Bitsler   9/19/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsler-is-a-complete-and-utter-scam-5360813   

FortuneJack B-
Fortunejack   9/14/2023   $279.60   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-5466779   Resolved

Betfury C+
Betfury   1/19/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betfury-not-pay-27k-5406841   Resolved

Cloudbet C+
Cloudbet   9/10/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-deceptive-marketing-to-banned-jurisdiction-and-refuses-to-refund-5466334   
Cloudbet   4/7/2023   1.6 ETH   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-cloudbet-stealing-my-funds-5447946   Resolved
Cloudbet   3/14/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-account-under-review-for-5-months-5444821   

Roobet C+
0 accusations

Duelbits C
Duelbits   8/27/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-scam-alert-unveiling-the-illusion-of-the-most-rewarding-casino-5464671   
Duelbits   7/11/2023   $2,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-not-withdrawing-2k-usd-3months-5459388   Resolved
Duelbits   6/1/2023   $500,000.00    https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-500000-unresolved-problem-5454703   Resolved
Duelbits   4/15/2023   $950.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-wont-send-me-withdraw-amount-5448936   Resolved
Duelbits   4/4/2023   $1,100.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-duelbits-scam-1100-5447135   
Duelbits   1/9/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/evolution-scammed-me-on-duelbits-table-5433623   

Sportsbet C
Sportsbet   11/5/2023  ?  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-sportsbetio-rude-support-and-wierd-decisions-5472884 Resolved
Sportsbet    9/29/2023  $5,000  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportbetone-just-stole-5k-usd-from-me-5468447
Sportsbet   9/13/2023   $250.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/removed-5466721   Resolved
Sportsbet   8/22/2023   38.32 LTC   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/serious-sportsbet-problem-they-paid-3832-ltc-to-the-wrong-address-5464122   
Sportsbet   8/14/2023   $1,200.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-falsely-accuses-me-of-multi-accounting-and-refuses-to-pay-my-money-5463240                   
Sportsbet   4/24/2023   $1,350.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-accuse-me-with-multi-accounting-and-dont-pay-my-winnings-5450006   Resolved
Sportsbet   3/23/2023   $5,500.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-steal-money-5446033   
Sportsbet   5/4/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-fake-games-in-play-be-careful-5451223   
Sportsbet   4/3/2023   219 mBTC   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-sportsbetio-holding-my-funds-342-mbtc-5447376   Resolved
Sportsbet   2/14/2023   $1,731.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-scam-1731-usdt-5439809   
Sportsbet   3/8/2023   $1,700.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-site-sportbetio-stealing-money-important-5443999   
Sportsbet   1/17/2023   $250.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-took-my-money-5435667   
Sportsbet   1/5/2023   $6,472.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-multi-accounting-problem-5433051   Resolved

MaverickGames C
Maverickgames   6/6/2023   $600.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/maverickgames-takes-money-away-5455433   
Maverickgames   6/8/2023   $2,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/maverickgamescom-casino-is-a-scam-5455752   

Owl C
0 accusations

Rollbit C
Rollbit  11/5/2023  $22,000  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-stealing-22k-and-banning-my-account-5472882
Rollbit  10/23/2023  ?  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-has-literally-has-thrown-my-money-away-sending-it-to-an-ftx-address-5471380
Rollbit  10/4/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-robbed-my-money-i-made-honest-bet-help-5469212
Rollbit   8/31/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-pragmatic-blackjack-scammed-me-5465228   
Rollbit   8/21/2023   $30,211.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996   
Rollbit   6/29/2023   $410.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-disabling-account-and-confiscating-balance-of-410-5458053   Resolved
Rollbit   4/19/2023   $10,200.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-disables-account-and-seizes-funds-102k-5449402   
Rollbit   6/25/2023   $4,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-holding-4k-withdrawal-been-7-days-5457538   Reolved
Rollbit   5/25/2023   $5,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5k-gdpr-problem-5454027   
Rollbit   4/8/2023   $920.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-hold-funds-and-ignore-in-chat-5448076   
Rollbit   4/6/2023   $255.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-255-usdt-5447740   
Rollbit   4/3/2023   $350.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5447471   Resolved
Rollbit   3/7/2023   $12,800.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-withdrawal-frozen-for-12800-no-response-5443932   Resolved
Rollbit   2/23/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-rollbit-5441023   
Rollbit   2/21/23   $1,497.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-rollbitcom-you-deposit-1497-busd-you-withdraw-0-account-blocked-5440636   
Rollbit   1/10/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scammed-5433691   
Rollbit   1/3/2023   $737.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5432854   

TrustDice C
Trustdice   6/18/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/just-got-scammed-by-trustdicewin-stay-away-5456716 Fairness is verifiable
Trustdice   3/10/2023   .075 BTC   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-expirience-on-site-trustdicecom-scam-5444374 Resolved CasinoGuru


ParlayPlus C-
0 accusations

Wolf C-
Wolfbet   11/7/2023   $18.55   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wolfbet-commission-withdraw-5473231  Resolved

I never had an issue with either casino.  Besides these two casinos have their campaign in this forum and is spending thousands of dollars every week to build up their reputation.  Both had been running this campaign for a long time now so I do not think the casino will tarnish their reputation by scamming their players.

I agree that whether the casino is reputable or not, better to gamble responsibly.

Definitely, what has been the case on your side? They wouldn't damage their reputation with that just kind of amount ser, they even process million of dollars. They are so far the best casinos you can trust out there and we can assure that.

Are you planning on saving your funds there because recently I read a post where the op was talking about having his funds saved in his gambling account which sounds a bit off to me that people now prefer non-custodial wallet to using gambling accounts as a point of savings of their funds. Nevertheless, about trustworthiness of the two gambling sites op had mentioned I think they have a good reputable history here in the forum which had made them earn the trust of many forum members. But I'll implore you to take in the idea of @oshosondy the first comment in the thread, which talks about spreading the money across more than just two bookies, it make sense safely that way but make sure to register with bookies that have long reputable history with their withdrawal and other services.

When it comes to reputation and popularity and being long time running then i could say that both platforms/companies are really legit and trustworthy. When it comes to limitations
then im pretty sure that they could really be able to handle up 10k or 50k on which those amounts are really just that small. When it comes to withdrawals then they are really having no problems.
I do have an experience on playing on Rollbit and everything went smooth, although im not that able to pull up a huge amount but the user experience is really that great.
So if you do see that on what platforms best fits for you then its up to your own choice.

why alot of ppl have issues with KYC ?  i dont have any issue with that

Not going to lie Stake is definitely the biggest casino because people who know Stake isn't only in this forum, most bettors in everywhere know about Stake.

If the small casino is trustworthy, I think they will not allow the gambler to bet higher than their total bankroll. So they've set a maximum amount to bet, if the worst case happen (the gambler bet in max amount and win), it will not make the casino going to bankrupt.

I would say that both have a long history with the Bitcointalk community and both have no outstanding accusations or bad reviews. They are both trustworthy, if you know the rules and follow the rules of whichever casino that you play on. But if you are going to plan something like neglect the terms and conditions (terms of service/terms of use) then I would advise against it.

Of course you will have to prepare yourself for a KYC.

I say all this because there have been people in the past who broke the rules (either on purpose or accidently) and then whined on this forum about how they are having problems withdrawing from a frozen account. So make sure you learn the TOS.

Op you do well for making inquiry before going ahead with them, this is one thing casinos and users in the forum have to know that their reputation is with the people. Like this question the people will give their views on the casinos whether they have good standard or not. But Op, one thing you have to know is that we are all from different locations and anonymous therefore we can't stand for one another but one thing is sure that our characters and behaviors speak a lot for us. So far so good the two mentioned casinos have not misbehaved in the forum and they have not scammed anyone and I have not seen scammed accusations from them, they are of good report and no issue of deposit and withdrawal. You are free to have fun with them.

I have seen streamers, youtuber they will millions worth of crypto in seconds, mostly streamers who have huge capital like over a million play on stake.
stake is biggest crypto gambling site with very high liquidity you can see on their site in bottom that how much amount players are betting there.
on small site which have low liquidity may have problems while withdrawal.

All I can say is you need to gamble responsible, you won't have any problem using fortune jack or Rollbit, as they always have good reviews so far apart from those reviews from people who break some rules and want to make the platform look like the bad ones, so mate, avoid breaking rules, spend time on their ToS first if you are new to these platforms,  as there might be something you plan to do that isn't allowed on the platforms.

Ask yourself, are you a good person? And not involved in any illegal activities? What about your money? Coming from a clean source? No illegal funding? Can you go with KYC verification if you are been asked? Most people that have complains about these casinos are the problems themselves.

If you are sure of yourself you are free to proceed, somehow I kinda like Stake.com more when it comes to gambler who want to use a lot of money, I prefer telling people to use Stake instead, I've never use big money on gambling myself but if I have to it will be on Stake.

In my opinion, if you want to play with a lot of money and you are in a country where it is allowed by casinos, you know that they will eventually ask you for kyc. in all casinos they will ask you for kyc when you are a big whale. but if we are going to talk about the best casino to play for a lot of money, in my opinion, use stake.com, I'm not saying this because I participate in their signature campaign, but because I play at this casino and I see how this casino provides good services. Your money will be safer on stake.com and if you win a lot you will be able to make withdrawals without problems, because they have the money to pay you, withdrawals on stake.com are very fast. be very careful with other casinos, test them using small amounts of money and then it goes up, this is what I say if you choose not to use stake.com and want to use other casinos

I've personally never seen an issue open up about FortuneJack , have seen a few with rollbit though which idk if it has been resolved yet or not. Personally, though I've had no problems so Idrk what's the issue with some of the cases that were posted here. Might've been a country problem or something idrk, might be best to check the ToS for both then decide. To be on the safe side FortuneJack seems like the better option but eh, you do you. They're both pretty good imo though.

Those two casinos can be said to be good platforms for gambling in the crypto gambling business. How many years have they been in this industry, as far as I know? So, that means they have an established good community and reputation in the crypto space.

I have also not heard of them scamming their users on this platform. I have rarely seen anyone complain, and in the end, it seems that the complainants did not prove their complaints because it was discovered that the problem was also the complainant's.

I'll back up your recommendation the $40 million can make small or medium-level casinos shake up their operation, but Stake.com because of being the number one
managed to protect its reputation and its standing in the industry, when playing with a huge amount of money the choice will always be on the top casinos in the industry, Fortunejack is also one of the biggest casinos in the industry but Stake can guarantee your funds, and besides Stake has been one of the favorites of celebrities to bet like Drake, and they have sponsors some of the biggest sporting events/
You will have a peace of mind if you chose Stake.

It depends on where the money came from since if this from illegal activities or any flag balances then provably your funds might get stuck there.

But those casino you mentioned is reputable so I guess they can be trusted with that amount but make sure you read their rules and also you are ready to submit your KYC since this is required before you can use all the feature that you want from them. Also take not on this that casinos is strictly implementing a AML policy so just make sure the money you want to deposit is really clean, because you know for yourself what will happen if this funds came from illegal.

So far what I see is that they are still active in this forum, both from their representatives for the community and also signature campaigns to promote their site, I think of course both of them still have a good reputation in this forum, no matter the big bets you make but I think you should look into their announcement thread on the gambling board or visit their site.

The point is to read the terms and conditions on their site as well as the regulatory information therein so that you are not careless before making a deposit, make sure to complete KYC because usually large bets are synonymous with KYC which must be complete so that you are not accused of money laundering by the casino. I hope you also go visit the Stake site because this site in my opinion is the bigger of the two. 

I wouldn't risk that much on these casinos. I don't mean that you won't be able to get your money back but I think you might face problems like KYC and delayed withdrawal because there have been cases like these with huge wins. Check the trust on their bitcointalk profiles, check references and you'll understand what I mean.

I think it's safer to bet high bets on sportsbet.io and stake.com. By the way, in any case, if you bet high on FortuneJack and Rollbit, even if you face problems, there is a very high chance that you'll be able to get your winnings with the help of the community. These two casinos care about their trust on this forum.

Both of those casinos are quite trustworthy platforms and they have their announcement threads on this forum. They have their fair play model and they have been doing good for a long time. I would say that it's better to have KYC done on such platforms before betting on those platforms.

I believe that there may be many high-rollers having 10k or more on those platforms and so far there haven't been many issues with those platforms. I would still say that you'll have to use your original documents for KYC purpose and only start depositing on those platforms when your KYC is completed.

Fortunejack.com and rollbit.com are casinos, but they are also bookies. But casinos and bookies are not the same. OP asked questions about bookies, not casinos. You are not wrong that they are both good gambling sites, but he should not disobey the rules. He should read the terms of services of the gambling sites before depositing huge amount of money.

They are safe if you will not do things that will break their ToS such as abused on bonuses through multiple account, arbitrage betting and many more because they will surely confiscate all your profit. This is applicable to almost all casino here in the forum.

The reason why there seems a lot of complaint that involved huge amount is the user itself is breaking the ToS or they got limited for doing value bets on most of their bets. But you will not encounter a problem if you are just a standard gambler.

Just they are trust worthy platforms but why do you want to deposit big money or gambler with so much big amount in a single game. If it deposit big amount in these platform they are quite trusted and don't worry for the platform to steal your funds but if you gamble all of them in one game then you will lose all of it.

On the other hand if your plan is to gamble with small amounts or moderate amount then you can deposit only that amount first and play , withdraw if you win.

In summary we won't have a problem the depositing amounts in this platform but we can lose money by betting or gambling with big amounts.

I think both Fortunejack.com and rollbit.com are trusted casinos. But we don't recommend betting big money over $10k or $50k.
But if you want to take the risk of whatever could happen, you can do it, but you will be the one to bear everything if anything happens to the money.
Even though the casino site is trusted and popular, you don't need to gamble with a lot of money. Gambling is not about making money. We have warned many people not to gamble with a lot of money.
But if they don't want to listen, that will be at their risk.

They both will payout for sure in my experience, but the limits vary wildly depending on the market that you are planning to bet on and Rollbit's odds are usually way better when compared to FJ's odds.

However, Rollbit can KYC you in a horrendous way at any point while FJ can KYC you too, but in a simple and decent manner. Just my 2 cents!

Fortunejack has no open scam accusations. Rollbit has many. Scam accusations filtered by sportsbook https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790 You may want to read the accusations before depositing a large amount.


Rollbit C
Rollbit  11/5/2023  $22,000  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-stealing-22k-and-banning-my-account-5472882
Rollbit  10/23/2023  ?  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-has-literally-has-thrown-my-money-away-sending-it-to-an-ftx-address-5471380
Rollbit  10/4/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-robbed-my-money-i-made-honest-bet-help-5469212
Rollbit   8/31/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-pragmatic-blackjack-scammed-me-5465228  
Rollbit   8/21/2023   $30,211.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996  
Rollbit   6/29/2023   $410.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-disabling-account-and-confiscating-balance-of-410-5458053   Resolved
Rollbit   4/19/2023   $10,200.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-disables-account-and-seizes-funds-102k-5449402  
Rollbit   6/25/2023   $4,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-holding-4k-withdrawal-been-7-days-5457538  Reolved
Rollbit   5/25/2023   $5,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5k-gdpr-problem-5454027  
Rollbit   4/8/2023   $920.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-hold-funds-and-ignore-in-chat-5448076  
Rollbit   4/6/2023   $255.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-255-usdt-5447740  
Rollbit   4/3/2023   $350.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5447471   Resolved
Rollbit   3/7/2023   $12,800.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-withdrawal-frozen-for-12800-no-response-5443932   Resolved
Rollbit   2/23/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-rollbit-5441023  
Rollbit   2/21/23   $1,497.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-rollbitcom-you-deposit-1497-busd-you-withdraw-0-account-blocked-5440636  
Rollbit   1/10/2023   ?   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scammed-5433691  
Rollbit   1/3/2023   $737.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5432854  

Accusations may not be legitimate but this is what's found in scam accusations and I filtered it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

Fortunejack is more older than Rollbit but both casino are doing better and also they
have aso faced some issues in the past and some are even existing but better to check for their reputation
before even trying handling bigger amount , and also instead of having bet high amount why not try those 
site with small amount first ? from there you can assess if they are trustworthy or not right? and besides
everything in gambling is a risk , not even trying to believe in each of them or else invest time and effort
to dig abut their reputation because you may hear better in some people here but you must assess for
your own as it is your money .

Yes they're trustworthy.

What you define the issues in withdrawals? if you hope you can withdraw instantly, then you're wrong because instant withdrawal only for small amounts. So if you gamble with larger amounts, you need to expect they need to do security check since the withdrawals is manual. But you don't need to worry if you're not cheating or breaking any rules.

There are an old accusations which they've solve it.
[SOLVED] 32 BTC, RollBit withdrawal problem
[Resolved] First time betting at Fortunejack withdrawal delay

I guess both these bookies have been operating for many years and have less complaints overall. I played at both the site many days back, and had no issues while withdrawing. Still I would suggest to check the recent reviews before depositing and big amount in either of the site.
If you don’t break any terms and conditions of the site, then definitely you won’t have any issue with them I am assuming. Moreover if you want, you can try playing at Stake.com, currently it’s my favourite for placing large bets in various sports events.

I think both of em are great casinos, although I've been hearing people complaining just a little bit about Roll it, but just about a few technical bugs and not really about withdrawals, if there are any complaints about Withdrawal issues I don't suppose I've come across it so If I'm to rate em both, I think it'll big a big 4 star ⭐. Although I don't often use those casinos, maybe just once in a while so this isn't a full recommendation, it's just a contribution and suggestion.

I don't bet that high in sports betting, but I wouldn't worry as much when those two sportsbooks you mentioned have the reputation to back it up. I'd be more worried about their limits because you might have problems placing that amount in some of their markets. That said, I also recommend their suggestion above and try to open more accounts in other sportsbooks. This way you still have a backup if one of the sportsbooks you regularly use starts to place a cap in some of the markets you take.

I only played on Fortunejack and had a small amount over there, but didn't have an issue over there. Both sites have been online a while, has a long running signature campaign and you don't see a lot of complaints about both sites, so I think it is safe to play with larger amounts on there, but I would just test them out with a smaller amount and see what you think of it.

I think people have less complaints about fortunejack.com, but rollbit.com is neither a bad sport betting site. I can say they are both good. But if you know that you want to have huge amount on a gambling site, better to use more than two bookies.

I will prefer Stake.com. After the hack of over $40 million, the gambling site is still not shaked but sturdy.

I do not know how rich you are, but I think I should say that you should gamble responsibly.

are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com  trustworthy with larger amounts ?

somebody can confirm betting on this 2 bookies with over 10k , 50k ? and no issues with withdrawls