This is interesting thread but the way it is updated is bit of long route. I mean there are some casinos that were listed when thread was stated back in 2014 and yet we are seeing most of the casino in the category C? Isn't one of the of the factor is "time in the business"?
For example, with zero haters (according to me) and more than 3 plus years in the business I am seeing Roobet, Duelbits, TrustDice in the Category C. They have already surpassed their userbase, the way they promote their casinos and also giveaways. I am not sure what's the real reason behind this. Or is there any other screening method in play.
A "C" rating isn't that bad. There are a lot of "D" and "F" rated books. Most of the time I only post "A"-"C". I'll post the "D" books along with criteria used below.
Criteria used to rate a book.1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.
2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.
The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.
3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.
4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.
5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.
6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.
7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.
8. Traffic - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.
9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.
Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.
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This is interesting thread but the way it is updated is bit of long route. I mean there are some casinos that were listed when thread was stated back in 2014 and yet we are seeing most of the casino in the category C? Isn't one of the of the factor is "time in the business"?
For example, with zero haters (according to me) and more than 3 plus years in the business I am seeing Roobet, Duelbits, TrustDice in the Category C. They have already surpassed their userbase, the way they promote their casinos and also giveaways. I am not sure what's the real reason behind this. Or is there any other screening method in play.
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Shoot my a PM with your acct # and permission to look into your account and I'll contact them.
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I was not withdrawn for 48 hours, although their maximum is 24 hours on the website. It was very difficult to write in the chat, No one practically answered, and did not say anything to me. I decided to write a review on trustpilot and informed them about it by email, because my situation was not resolved in any way. Because I wrote a review, they deleted my account with money. I am attaching screenshots of the email correspondence   Thanks for sending proofs. On something like this I'll wait one week before contacting. Do I have permission to inquire about your account? If so, PM you account number. Also, let me know when payment is made.
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I was not withdrawn for 48 hours, although their maximum is 24 hours on the website. It was very difficult to write in the chat, No one practically answered, and did not say anything to me. I decided to write a review on trustpilot and informed them about it by email, because my situation was not resolved in any way. Because I wrote a review, they deleted my account with money. I am attaching screenshots of the email correspondence https://ibb.co/LdhTQ7yhttps://ibb.co/WvKmqKB
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how can owl.games have a C rating if they don't pay?
Owl has 0 scam accusations against them. They scammed me yesterday. I can give proofs if you need Definitely post the proofs here for all of us to see. If you give me permission to look into your account, I'll contact them.
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how can owl.games have a C rating if they don't pay?
Owl has 0 scam accusations against them. They scammed me yesterday. I can give proofs if you need
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wrong betcoin are fags who cant payout 60$ without crazy kyc and making up bullshit stories
You are handling this entire situation in such a mature manner that I'm incredibly surprised as to why'd they want to KYC you.. To me this whole situation looks like a 12-year old trying to gamble. I hope you don't submit KYC and stay banned. tell me more since everyone knows about me 🤣 Yes everyone knows your degenerate ass with your $60 withdraw. Get a grip on life mate. 🤡 ur dogshit scamcoin cant even handle 60$ withdraw LOL And your scamming degenerate ass can't even submit KYC. Get.A.Grip. must suck to be a broke scammer like u 😁 You are literally out here crying over $60. I'm not sure you hold any ground on calling someone else broke. wrong. ur the one crying because i called out ur scam 😆
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Meh.
wrong betcoin are fags who cant payout 60$ without crazy kyc and making up bullshit stories
You are handling this entire situation in such a mature manner that I'm incredibly surprised as to why'd they want to KYC you.. To me this whole situation looks like a 12-year old trying to gamble. I hope you don't submit KYC and stay banned. tell me more since everyone knows about me 🤣 Yes everyone knows your degenerate ass with your $60 withdraw. Get a grip on life mate. 🤡 ur dogshit scamcoin cant even handle 60$ withdraw LOL And your scamming degenerate ass can't even submit KYC. Get.A.Grip. must suck to be a broke scammer like u 😁 You are literally out here crying over $60. I'm not sure you hold any ground on calling someone else broke.
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wrong betcoin are fags who cant payout 60$ without crazy kyc and making up bullshit stories
You are handling this entire situation in such a mature manner that I'm incredibly surprised as to why'd they want to KYC you.. To me this whole situation looks like a 12-year old trying to gamble. I hope you don't submit KYC and stay banned. tell me more since everyone knows about me 🤣 Yes everyone knows your degenerate ass with your $60 withdraw. Get a grip on life mate. 🤡 ur dogshit scamcoin cant even handle 60$ withdraw LOL And your scamming degenerate ass can't even submit KYC. Get.A.Grip. must suck to be a broke scammer like u 😁
legendary
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Meh.
wrong betcoin are fags who cant payout 60$ without crazy kyc and making up bullshit stories
You are handling this entire situation in such a mature manner that I'm incredibly surprised as to why'd they want to KYC you.. To me this whole situation looks like a 12-year old trying to gamble. I hope you don't submit KYC and stay banned. tell me more since everyone knows about me 🤣 Yes everyone knows your degenerate ass with your $60 withdraw. Get a grip on life mate. 🤡 ur dogshit scamcoin cant even handle 60$ withdraw LOL And your scamming degenerate ass can't even submit KYC. Get.A.Grip.
newbie
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wrong betcoin are fags who cant payout 60$ without crazy kyc and making up bullshit stories
You are handling this entire situation in such a mature manner that I'm incredibly surprised as to why'd they want to KYC you.. To me this whole situation looks like a 12-year old trying to gamble. I hope you don't submit KYC and stay banned. tell me more since everyone knows about me 🤣 Yes everyone knows your degenerate ass with your $60 withdraw. Get a grip on life mate. 🤡 ur dogshit scamcoin cant even handle 60$ withdraw LOL
legendary
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Meh.
wrong betcoin are fags who cant payout 60$ without crazy kyc and making up bullshit stories
You are handling this entire situation in such a mature manner that I'm incredibly surprised as to why'd they want to KYC you.. To me this whole situation looks like a 12-year old trying to gamble. I hope you don't submit KYC and stay banned. tell me more since everyone knows about me 🤣 Yes everyone knows your degenerate ass with your $60 withdraw. Get a grip on life mate.
newbie
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wrong betcoin are fags who cant payout 60$ without crazy kyc and making up bullshit stories
You are handling this entire situation in such a mature manner that I'm incredibly surprised as to why'd they want to KYC you.. To me this whole situation looks like a 12-year old trying to gamble. I hope you don't submit KYC and stay banned. tell me more since everyone knows about me 🤣
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