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 January 25, 2024, 10:26:14 AM
Thank you for your hard work! I wanted to clarify, does Betcoin require verification? Hello victorwinn, thank you for the inquiry. To clarify Peeps Place's reply, we do not request KYC unless a terms violation is suspected. Please note that we are unable to accept players in Ukraine at this time. If that changes, an announcement will certainly be made. January 24, 2024, 08:05:07 PM
Thank you for your hard work! I wanted to clarify, does Betcoin require verification? No KYC is needed if you are not using a VPN. This insures Betcoin that you are not using multiple accounts. There may be a few exceptions but it is very rare. January 24, 2024, 08:03:42 PM
Thank you for your hard work! I wanted to clarify, does Betcoin require verification?
January 24, 2024, 07:35:01 PM
I'm posting reviews of each sportsbook and comparing them with Sportsbet and Stake along with some information on the books ahead of them. I'm not going to post the same generic information that can be obtained from any rating guide outside of bitcointalk that can just be copied. I'm also not going to consider popularity of a book since that is very different at each place visited. Most of the time it is affected by advertising and signatures. I'll try to post things that are unique about each sportsbook along with information not found elsewhere.
Betcoin Review January 24, 2024 Betcoin is the top rated Bitcoin Sportsbook. A few things that separate Betcoin from Stake and Sportsbet is that they are the only Sportsbook between the three that has a Sportsbook, Casino, Horse Race Book and Poker Room. Betcoin is also unique in having two sets of lines for line shoppers.One is listed as Gamebtr and the other as Betcoin. Betcoin also has the smallest margins in eSports in the Leageu of Legends, Starcraft II and Broodwar. Another unique aspect is that Betcoin allows you to keep your balance in alt coins for those that want exposure to an alt coin. For those worried about price fluctuations your balance may be kept in USDT or BUSD. As far as safeness and security, there are no open scam accusations against Betcoin. The record keeping on scam accusations began on January 1, 2023. All accusations in the Scam Accusation subforum are listed. The UI of Betcoin is the most modern of the three and is updated on a regular basis. Gamebtr is the simplest version while Betcoin is the more modern version. Betcoin is consistently making upgrades. It wasn't long ago that horse racing was added. A recent addition is the Poker Room. Social gaming has been added. Betcoin is an all inclusive gaming site.  Gamebtr, Betcoin, Sportsbet then Stake     Additional Sportsbook information such as currencies accepted Betcoin Review Betcoin is the top rated Bitcoin Sportsbook. A few things that separate Betcoin from Stake and Sportsbet is that they are the only Sportsbook between the three that has a Sportsbook, Casino, Horse Race Book and Poker Room. Betcoin is also unique in having two sets of lines for line shoppers.One is listed as Gamebtr and the other as Betcoin. Betcoin also has the smallest margins in eSports in the Leageu of Legends, Starcraft II and Broodwar. Another unique aspect is that Betcoin allows you to keep your balance in alt coins for those that want exposure to an alt coin. For those worried about price fluctuations your balance may be kept in USDT or BUSD. As far as safeness and security, there are no open scam accusations against Betcoin. The record keeping on scam accusations began on January 1, 2023. All accusations in the Scam Accusation subforum are listed. The UI of Betcoin is the most modern of the three and is updated on a regular basis. Gamebtr is the simplest version while Betcoin is the more modern version. Betcoin is consistently making upgrades. It wasn't long ago that horse racing was added. A recent addition is the Poker Room. Social gaming has been added. Betcoin is an all inclusive gaming site. January 24, 2024, 05:25:48 AM
Why is there so much Stake? Can you summarize the main reason for not re-reading all these threads? You must have read them before posting them here. I read them all. Here are some of the most recent cases. I'll get into all later if you want. If you see mistakes then let me know.Jan 8: Video of dealer cheating in live blackjack. Nov. 21: KYC check still ongoing for $12,000 USD. Sept. 11: $100,000 USD confiscated for banned jurisdiction. To be really honest, I think we tend to be too harsh on the most respected sportsbooks in terms of complaints. It looks like people complain quicker than with other sportsbooks, simply because they expect much more from the respected sportsbooks. But IMO this blackjack dealer cheating has nothing to do with Stake, it was a strange human error by the external live casino provider, and it wasn't even about a high amount. The KYC check I don't know.....as long as it's not finished I think it's a bit early to complain. And a confiscation due to banned jurisdiction is harsh but pretty clear-cut. After all, it's a bit strange than the most respected books such as Stake and Sportsbet have the highest amount of total complaints behind their name. The complaints agasint the lesser known sportsbooks have much much more rediculous reasons behind the confiscations/voids/bans. I agree with you on the blackjack dealer that it's not Stake's fault. I'm going to change that and put a strike through it. It could be a simple dealer mistake. For the second complaint, I don't think that player's should have to wait months for a KYC check, that has to be done much quicker. The $100,000 confiscation is pure theft. The player must be given his money back. January 24, 2024, 04:35:27 AM
Why is there so much Stake? Can you summarize the main reason for not re-reading all these threads? You must have read them before posting them here. I read them all. Here are some of the most recent cases. I'll get into all later if you want. If you see mistakes then let me know.Jan 8: Video of dealer cheating in live blackjack. Nov. 21: KYC check still ongoing for $12,000 USD. Sept. 11: $100,000 USD confiscated for banned jurisdiction. To be really honest, I think we tend to be too harsh on the most respected sportsbooks in terms of complaints. It looks like people complain quicker than with other sportsbooks, simply because they expect much more from the respected sportsbooks. But IMO this blackjack dealer cheating has nothing to do with Stake, it was a strange human error by the external live casino provider, and it wasn't even about a high amount. The KYC check I don't know.....as long as it's not finished I think it's a bit early to complain. And a confiscation due to banned jurisdiction is harsh but pretty clear-cut. After all, it's a bit strange than the most respected books such as Stake and Sportsbet have the highest amount of total complaints behind their name. The complaints agasint the lesser known sportsbooks have much much more rediculous reasons behind the confiscations/voids/bans. I agree with you on the blackjack dealer that it's not Stake's fault. I'm going to change that and put a strike through it. It could be a simple dealer mistake. For the second complaint, I don't think that player's should have to wait months for a KYC check, that has to be done much quicker. The $100,000 confiscation is pure theft. The player must be given his money back. January 24, 2024, 04:18:45 AM
Why is there so much Stake? Can you summarize the main reason for not re-reading all these threads? You must have read them before posting them here. I read them all. Here are some of the most recent cases. I'll get into all later if you want. If you see mistakes then let me know.Jan 8: Video of dealer cheating in live blackjack. Nov. 21: KYC check still ongoing for $12,000 USD. Sept. 11: $100,000 USD confiscated for banned jurisdiction. To be really honest, I think we tend to be too harsh on the most respected sportsbooks in terms of complaints. It looks like people complain quicker than with other sportsbooks, simply because they expect much more from the respected sportsbooks. But IMO this blackjack dealer cheating has nothing to do with Stake, it was a strange human error by the external live casino provider, and it wasn't even about a high amount. The KYC check I don't know.....as long as it's not finished I think it's a bit early to complain. And a confiscation due to banned jurisdiction is harsh but pretty clear-cut. After all, it's a bit strange than the most respected books such as Stake and Sportsbet have the highest amount of total complaints behind their name. The complaints agasint the lesser known sportsbooks have much much more rediculous reasons behind the confiscations/voids/bans. January 23, 2024, 12:42:51 AM
Why is there so much Stake? Can you summarize the main reason for not re-reading all these threads? You must have read them before posting them here. Read them all. Here are some of the most recent cases. Will get into all later. If you see mistakes then let me know.Jan 8: Video of dealer cheating in live blackjack. Nov. 21: KYC check still ongoing for $12,000 USD. Sept. 11: $100,000 USD confiscated for banned jurisdiction. Thanks for the reply! And thanks for the links on letou.com! January 23, 2024, 12:37:52 AM
Why is there so much Stake? Can you summarize the main reason for not re-reading all these threads? You must have read them before posting them here. I read them all. Here are some of the most recent cases. I'll get into all later if you want. If you see mistakes then let me know.Jan 8: Video of dealer cheating in live blackjack. Nov. 21: KYC check still ongoing for $12,000 USD. Sept. 11: $100,000 USD confiscated for banned jurisdiction. January 22, 2024, 11:49:21 PM
Why is there so much Stake? Can you summarize the main reason for not re-reading all these threads? You must have read them before posting them here.
January 22, 2024, 10:38:23 PM
Update scam accusations
Scam accusations from January 1, 2023 - January 22, 2024 Nitrobetting A+ 0 accusations Betcoin A+ Betcoin Betcoin Betcoin Betcoin Betcoin Betcoin Betcoin mBet A- 0 accusations Stake B Stake 1/8/2024 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-stake-playing-fair-what-about-others-where-is-the-line-of-trust-here-5480777 Stake 12/18/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/funds-withdrawn-from-stake-without-2fa-5478418 Stake 11/21/2023 $12,500.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-is-scam-12000-5474855 Stake 9/28/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-and-casinoguru-coverup-5468477 Stake 9/14/2023 $20,000.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-scammed-me-off-apx-20000-usdti-want-my-hard-earned-money-backhelp-pls-5466839 Stake 9/11/2023 $100,000.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-lock-my-account-after-winning-100k-5466400 Stake Stake 9/4/2023 $541.00 Stake Stake 8/1/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-stakecom-missing-bets-from-the-website-archive-odds-not-matching-5461706 Stake Stake 7/7/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-is-a-scam-the-use-sensors-to-manipulate-the-bets-nothing-fair-5458920 Stake 7/4/2023 10500 XRP https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-stakecom-stole-10500-xrp-5458557 Stake 7/3/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-family-scam-business-since-90s-5458456 Stake 6/2/2023 $2,000.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-scammed-me-due-to-racial-discrimination-and-personal-issues-5454864 Stake 5/15/23 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-stole-hundreds-of-thousands-from-me-ilegally-5452766 Stake 5/17/2023 0.14892000 BTC https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-scammed-me-for-015-btc-5453029 Stake 10/11/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-account-suspended-proof-of-funds-how-to-provide-5416789 Stake 4/14/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-stakecom-blocking-withdrawal-and-not-responding-to-emails-5448883 Stake 2/21/2023 $165,000.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hacked-for-165k-stakecom-5440739 Stake 1/4/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-is-unfair-and-biased-nothing-but-classism-5433046 Bitsler B- Bitsler 9/19/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsler-is-a-complete-and-utter-scam-5360813 FortuneJack B- Fortunejack 12/18/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-provably-fair-games-are-not-fair-5478417 Fortunejack 11/3/2023 $1500.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1500-5472748 Fortunejack Betfury C+ Betfury Cloudbet C+ Cloudbet 9/10/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-deceptive-marketing-to-banned-jurisdiction-and-refuses-to-refund-5466334 Cloudbet Cloudbet 3/14/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-account-under-review-for-5-months-5444821 Roobet C+ 0 accusations Wolf.bet C+ Wolf.bet 1/21/2024 $1131 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wolfbet-blocked-my-account-5482475 Wolf.bet 1/20/2024 $1050 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wolfbet-not-paying-out-winnings-at-the-moment-resolved-5482356 Wolfbet Duelbits C Duelbits Duelbits 8/27/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-scam-alert-unveiling-the-illusion-of-the-most-rewarding-casino-5464671 Duelbits Duelbits Duelbits Duelbits 4/4/2023 $1,100.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-duelbits-scam-1100-5447135 Duelbits 1/9/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/evolution-scammed-me-on-duelbits-table-5433623 MaverickGames C Maverickgames 6/6/2023 $600.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/maverickgames-takes-money-away-5455433 Maverickgames 6/8/2023 $2,000.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/maverickgamescom-casino-is-a-scam-5455752 Owl C 0 accusations TrustDice C Trustdice 6/18/2023 ? Trustdice 3/10/2023 .075 BTC ParlayPlus C- 0 accusations Rollbit D+ Rollbit 1/19/2024 $2500 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-stole-my-withdrawal-please-help-5482250 Rollbit 1/5/2024 $110,117.52 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-holding-my-withdrawl-5480563 Rollbit Rollbit 11/28/2023 $292.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-voided-my-won-bet-after-match-finished-5475823 Rollbit 11/5/2023 $22,000 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-stealing-22k-and-banning-my-account-5472882 Rollbit 10/23/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-has-literally-has-thrown-my-money-away-sending-it-to-an-ftx-address-5471380 Rollbit 10/4/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-robbed-my-money-i-made-honest-bet-help-5469212 Rollbit 8/31/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-pragmatic-blackjack-scammed-me-5465228 Rollbit 8/21/2023 $30,211.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-cannot-withdraw-30211-being-ignored-by-support-5463996 Rollbit Rollbit 4/19/2023 $10,200.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-disables-account-and-seizes-funds-102k-5449402 Rollbit Rollbit 5/25/2023 $5,000.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5k-gdpr-problem-5454027 Rollbit 4/8/2023 $920.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-hold-funds-and-ignore-in-chat-5448076 Rollbit 4/6/2023 $255.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-255-usdt-5447740 Rollbit Rollbit Rollbit 2/23/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-rollbit-5441023 Rollbit 2/21/23 $1,497.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-rollbitcom-you-deposit-1497-busd-you-withdraw-0-account-blocked-5440636 Rollbit 1/10/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scammed-5433691 Rollbit 1/3/2023 $737.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5432854 Sportsbet D+ Sportsbet 12/3/2023 $14,500.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbet-scam-my-14450-please-help-me-5476415 Sportsbet Sportsbet 9/29/2023 $5,000 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportbetone-just-stole-5k-usd-from-me-5468447 Sportsbet Sportsbet 8/22/2023 38.32 LTC https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/serious-sportsbet-problem-they-paid-3832-ltc-to-the-wrong-address-5464122 Sportsbet 8/14/2023 $1,200.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-falsely-accuses-me-of-multi-accounting-and-refuses-to-pay-my-money-5463240 Sportsbet Sportsbet 3/23/2023 $5,500.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-steal-money-5446033 Sportsbet 5/4/2023 ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-fake-games-in-play-be-careful-5451223 Sportsbet Sportsbet 2/14/2023 $1,731.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-scam-1731-usdt-5439809 Sportsbet 3/8/2023 $1,700.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-site-sportbetio-stealing-money-important-5443999 Sportsbet 1/17/2023 $250.00 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-took-my-money-5435667 Sportsbet Blue Chip NR Blue Chip 1/16/2024 34mBTC https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63509199 Coins.game Coins.game 1/18/2024 268 mBTC...https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63519557 January 21, 2024, 07:23:43 AM
Hi, does anyone know anything about the reliability of letou.com? Yes-there is a fiat there, but still thought I'd ask in case anyone knows or has heard anything.... I don't play there, maybe someone else does. A search tells me that it's a book that people should stay away from.https://thepogg.com/casino-review/letou/ https://casino.guru/letou-casino-review-1 January 21, 2024, 05:52:05 AM
Hi, does anyone know anything about the reliability of letou.com? Yes-there is a fiat there, but still thought I'd ask in case anyone knows or has heard anything....
January 18, 2024, 05:44:12 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63519557 Today I got scammed for 268mbtc by Coins.game If this does not get solved they should be forever listed in the scam category if you ask me This is a new casino and you are a respected poster so I've immediately put them in the scam (F) category. Contact AskGamblers and ThePogg to file complaints. Those two have the most success. This is happening all too often. I'll paraphrase the book's rule. If you have more than one account, we can steal all your money. We determine if you have more than one account and we don't have to show proof to anyone. Rollbit, Sportsbet and Stake are the biggest abusers of that rule. We have to put pressure on all books to pay back in full, winnings and deposits, if they don't want our business. My case has nothing to do with multiple accounts. They are just not happy with a winning customer, threw a bunch of vague accusations and rules into a chat and hoped I would buy it and be statisfied with just getting my deposit back (minus 1mbtc by the way cause that is their rediculously high flat withdrawal fee) I looked again and have no idea what you are being accused of doing wrong. You can shoot me a PM with your account number stating that I have permission to look into your account and I'll contact them. Still file with someone else that can help. January 18, 2024, 05:04:57 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63519557 Today I got scammed for 268mbtc by Coins.game If this does not get solved they should be forever listed in the scam category if you ask me This is a new casino and you are a respected poster so I've immediately put them in the scam (F) category. Contact AskGamblers and ThePogg to file complaints. Those two have the most success. This is happening all too often. I'll paraphrase the book's rule. If you have more than one account, we can steal all your money. We determine if you have more than one account and we don't have to show proof to anyone. Rollbit, Sportsbet and Stake are the biggest abusers of that rule. We have to put pressure on all books to pay back in full, winnings and deposits, if they don't want our business. My case has nothing to do with multiple accounts. They are just not happy with a winning customer, threw a bunch of vague accusations and rules into a chat and hoped I would buy it and be statisfied with just getting my deposit back (minus 1mbtc by the way cause that is their rediculously high flat withdrawal fee) January 18, 2024, 04:45:13 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63519557 Today I got scammed for 268mbtc by Coins.game If this does not get solved they should be forever listed in the scam category if you ask me This is a new casino and you are a respected poster so I've immediately put them in the scam (F) category. Contact AskGamblers and ThePogg to file complaints. Those two have the most success. This is happening all too often. I'll paraphrase the book's rule. If you have more than one account, we can steal all your money. We determine if you have more than one account and we don't have to show proof to anyone. Rollbit, Sportsbet and Stake are the biggest abusers of that rule. We have to put pressure on all books to pay back in full, winnings and deposits, if they don't want our business. January 18, 2024, 02:11:35 PM
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Today I got scammed for 268mbtc by Coins.game If this does not get solved they should be forever listed in the scam category if you ask me January 17, 2024, 02:33:13 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63509199 See here, I would like to nominate BlueChip for the scam category of your list. Absolutely terrible sportsbook. Thanks for bringing this here GekkeBelg, they've been added. Sorry to see this. They are at the bottom of the list since they are NR but I think I'll rearrange the list later in alphabetical order instead of rating to make it easier to look up for posters. Quote Criteria used to rate a book. 1. Security - getting paid is by far most important. 2. Working with the forum. I'm no longer going to trust a Sportsbook's word for scam accusations. I've sent out a PM to all the books in the first spreadsheet. A sportsbook must agree to binding arbitration at a governing body such as AskGamblers or allow me to see details of disputes in order to have an "A" rating. Binding arbitration is best with a site such as AskGambers or ThePogg. I don't want to do it since it's a no win situation for me. If not, the highest rating that they can obtain will be a "B". Safety and security is the most important thing and we must be assured that our funds are not being confiscated without proof of wrongdoing. In some jurisdictions a license will be fine but not in Curacao. Curacao is not going to rule in the player's favor. Books are taking too long to approve KYC documentation after all has been provided. Some are taking up to 3 months. With that in mind, on January 24th, I'll post what books have decided on binding arbitration and adjustments will be made. Books with licenses in such places as the UK and US are held to high standards. The standard of crypto books needs to be increased. Not having a license in the UK or US doesn't mean a book can steal according to a ToS rule that would be thrown out in a court of law. January 17, 2024, 12:48:29 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63509199 you should also try asking for your case to be listed on this another thread"Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum"See here, I would like to nominate BlueChip for the scam category of your list. Absolutely terrible sportsbook. I know this wouldn't really help you case but looking around the forum it seems like bluechip.io used to run a signature campaign here in the forum and also has a forum representative(BlueChip.io) but they didn't post an ANN thread. Jump to:
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